Daytime Swordin'

[quack quack]

yeah got to see Nick about the re spool

[Swording123]

Originally Posted by Daytripper

We landed a swordy around 170lbs today in the keys. Fish was hooked around 3:00 and landed around 4:30. We got the bite while the bait was going down and was close to the bottom. Very simple to do, no secret. Just take your normal nightime rig that everyone that swordfishes with and then tie small amount of 10lb test to the hook of your squid and tie the other end to something that is about 12lbs or larger. Take the rig and toss it out and let it fly to the bottom of the ocean and then lock it up. For some strange reason when I lock it up my weight seems to break off, and my squid slowly floats along and gets eating by a swordy. Very simple and you will catch one. Yes I got power assist reels, Diawa 3000 to be exact and we only use the power when bringing up the line. To fight the fish we place the client into a harness and let them crank their little hart out to catch the fish.

I like your style by letting the charter/customers crank on 'em... Not just pushing a button the whole time... nice job on the fish..

[nestor]

Originally Posted by swordstalker

Nestor,
Go with the way Daytripper described it and use squid. Just be careful "tossing" the weight and rig overboard - it might break off right away. We got to the bottom twice last weekend, but couldn't get the weight to break off. We were using 6 lbs. of lead on 20 lb. mono. Next time I'll try 10 lbs. on 15 lb. mono.
Good luck and let us know how you do.

I was thinkin' about using the 10lb line for the breakaway and bring a bunch of chum bags full of weights. If it comes off too easy, I'll up the line test. At these depths, sounds like a 1, maybe 2, line setup. With current, could be tough to keep the lines apart. thoughts?

[Kevinm]

Datime swordfishing is a lot easier in the Keys due to not as much current. When daytime fishing here I use a complete different rig as I have to keep the weight on, otherwise you are wasting time. It's not rocket science. In the keys I use a 80W hand crank reel. Around here, I use my electrics as who wants to crank up that lead 10 times. I also believe, that the depth is the key to the bites not the location. My.02

[RiskTaker]

KevinM:

And would your depth suggestion be a direct correlation to the bottom water temperature, or perhaps something else?

Do you believe that there are any hot pockets where fish may concentrate, or perhaps are they sliding around all over the place but in their preferred climate control zone ?

From some of the things Professor O has commented on, it seems reasonable that they must pass from zone A to zone B, perhaps in similar ways that we people do our daily commutes from job to home. It seems to reason there may be a travelling time and perhaps some time when things are settled down a little more.

I do not know anything about this for sure, just trying to see if we can't figure out some type of behavior that makes sense and could be consistent with our data confirmations.

Thanks for the post Day-tripper. Sounds like another daytime fish chalked up on the mid-day to mid afternoon fishing.

The more I hear about this, the more I keep thinking that there should be a temperature sensor going down to the bottom with the rig. I know tht LP makes hook timers. I wonder how much a deep temp. sensor costs?

[Kevinm]

Rt I personally belive its a depth thing. I am just starting here but From my other buddies that have been successful, its almost the exact same depth as in the Keys. I am stll trying to perfect my rig with the weight on. I have a few ideas I will be trying out.

[nestor]

Originally Posted by Kevinm

Rt I personally belive its a depth thing. I am just starting here but From my other buddies that have been successful, its almost the exact same depth as in the Keys. I am stll trying to perfect my rig with the weight on. I have a few ideas I will be trying out.

Ok, so you don't prefer the release and drift-up method. Cool. I take it from the discussion about depth that you're not wanting to drop to the bottom either. (both methods I was mentioning above).

So, as you're dropping a heavy weight to depth and carryin' it along, I've heard of a rig for this I wanted to get your thoughts on.

The challenge with keeping the weight on is by not being connected to the hook, the bait/leader is free to wrap up around the line (even more likely on such a deep drop & heavy weight). The goal is to get the line down and have a weighted line with a drifted bait. This rig attaches a heavy (10-12lbs) weight to the hook (10' leader to weight, loop on other end). On the loop end, use rigging copper wire (2 wraps/loops) around the hook. The hook is connected to the mainline via 15' leader and a 3-4lb weight (instead of 2lb normally), then light and mainline clip.

Drop to depth and snatch/reel to snap the heavy weight off causing the bait to drift free and still be held down by the 3-4lb weight. Depending on current, 3-4lbs should be enough to keep the line down even with drag.

Again, I haven't seen this in action, but have had it shared with me by others.

nes.

[Captain Juan]

Dudes, the tactic is pretty much laid out in the recent Sportsfishing article that the author gaves us the heads up about in a previous thread. (someone may have already mentioned this as I have not read all the posts in this thread)

Just fly to the bottom with a chum bag of bricks or lead with 8 or 10 lb. line, break it off and wait for the hit. I will try it as soon as I get a chance. The beauty is that you can nail bigeyes and yellowfins using the same tactic. I also want to try this in Tuna Alley north of the Gingerbreads.

I am going wahoo fishing this Sunday.

Best,

J

[Daytripper]

Today the current is about 3.5kt in the keys and the location is key. Our bites are with in 5 min or less of touching the bottom. After 30 min or so with no bite, you should bring it up and dropp again. No bites, then you should move to the next structure.

[Nick C]

Originally Posted by quack quack

yeah got to see Nick about the re spool

It's all good. We're all set for another go. I just gotta remember not to pick up the phone when Tek calls me from now on

[JahMussa]

Again... Now that's good comedy

[Nick C]

Bro come on! btw i think you only gave me 100yards. That's like $10

[Sopla2o]

Originally Posted by RiskTaker

Nes, No Problem Mon !

Come to the next Swordfishing Club meeting (tentatively in September) and we'll tell you how it is done, by some of the guys that are actually doing it with success.

Where and when is the next meeting... I need all the help I can get... I am (0-3, not fish but TRIPS.... HELP....)

[Sopla2o]

Originally Posted by RiskTaker

I'll advise about a week ahead of time after the agenda/meeting notice comes out.

Oooppsss. Before I get "bombarded" with "Hello, McFlyde Comments..." I will appologize, Risktaker...

Disregard my last post, I will await the email with dates and time....

[nestor]

think I'm set with rigging squid for the day drop. I was wondering if anyone had rigged a live bait (runner/speedo) for a daytime drop and how it was rigged for a break-away heavy weight used to get it down there?.?

nes