Radar truth or false

Pipe Dream · 03-29-2007, 02:22 PM

Guys,

Do you know if it's true that if you have radar, the following applies?

1) You must keep it on and watching it at all times
2) If somebody hits you and they don't have radar but you do, it's your fault and not theirs...even though they hit you
3) You will get more visits from law enforcement - especially at night

Is there anything else? Personally, I never paid attention to any of this in the past.

Thanx alot.

quack quack · 03-29-2007, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pipe Dream

Guys,

Do you know if it's true that if you have radar, the following applies?

1) You must keep it on and watching it at all times
2) If somebody hits you and they don't have radar but you do, it's your fault and not theirs...even though they hit you
3) You will get more visits from law enforcement - especially at night

Is there anything else? Personally, I never paid attention to any of this in the past.

Thanx alot.

1. If you have it you will have it on and be watching it anyway

2.If somebody does hit you I would just be happy to be alive.

3.If you see a boat on radar sneaking up on you at night and they donot answer your hail on 16 I would start um up and run away.

Hope this helps

WhItEoUt 23 · 03-29-2007, 03:22 PM

Couldnt have said it better myself

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TIGHT LINES AND SHARP HOOK'S

Pipe Dream · 03-29-2007, 03:23 PM

QQ,

Thanx alot. In regard to 2) I see the point, but if it's a slow speed hit, I don't know who would be at fault. Thanx again.

quack quack · 03-29-2007, 03:44 PM

Sorry Pipe those were smart azz answers but I could not resist.In florida I would not worry about a slow speed hit like in the fog up north.I really don't think radar makes you a law enforcement target. If you have it you really will be looking at it even on nice days because you will be looking for birds with it.Go with a 6kw unit if you want to see the birds well.

Pipe Dream · 03-29-2007, 04:30 PM

QQ, Understood regarding the answers. Yea, the primary purpose would be for birds. The 6kw would be my choice right now....still pondering though. Sometimes this law sxxx gets tricky. Like in an inlet with nasty weather, getting bumped, damage caused, and it's my fault because I had radar and the other boat did not. May sound silly, but some of these laws are worth a sxxx.

Relentless33 · 03-29-2007, 04:35 PM

If you have radar equipped on the boat you must always have it on?

quack quack · 03-29-2007, 04:38 PM

Were in west lake worth do you live?

Pipe Dream · 03-29-2007, 04:40 PM

Yea, to me it makes no sense. Can this be true per the law?

Pipe Dream · 03-29-2007, 04:42 PM

QQ, Out near the Wellington boundary off of 441.

quack quack · 03-29-2007, 04:50 PM

OK I live in Winston Trails off Hypoluxo.

Uncle Buck · 03-29-2007, 05:01 PM

Wow. You two live close. You should become best friends.

Tuna Devil · 03-29-2007, 05:10 PM

I smell play date.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

quack quack · 03-29-2007, 05:13 PM

Don't worry UB and TD I will still let you be my friends

Tuna Devil · 03-29-2007, 05:15 PM

Don't i owe some more money for being my friend?

Popi · 03-29-2007, 05:32 PM

The law says that all vessels use all means available to avoid a collision regardless of right of way. Radar is just another means. I was drifting on the 48 line one night and picked up a sailboat on the radar, returning from the Bahamas. Watch him for about 6 miles heading right towards us. When he got within a mile of us, I tried to radio him but got no answer. Threw the spotlight on him a couple of times and still no reply. Finally powered up and moved off our spot without picking up lines and within a few minutes he had run right over where we were fishing. He was apparently asleep at the wheel and no lookout. It would have been useless to argue fault 20 miles offshore with a 40' sailboat sticking through my hull.

Captain Ollie · 03-29-2007, 05:56 PM

Popi has it right and it is an actual law in the Coast Guard CFR's.

The Inland and International Rules require the use of radar in fair or foul weather, day or night, on vessels so equipped.

When the Coast Guard does accident investigations that involve vessel collisions they assign a percentage of blame to all the parties involved.......No matter how one sided they seem.

christopherkeene9 · 03-29-2007, 09:16 PM

As far as the Law Enforcement target I have heard up here when Otherside Tuna starts to kick in they pull over and check allvessels with big enough RADARS to spot birds.

shipmate bill · 03-29-2007, 10:07 PM

False*, false*, and false*

* 1) If you are involved in a maritime incident and are radar equipped but not using it, the first question out of the investigator's mouth will be why weren't you using all your navigational equipment

* 2) you being radar equipped doesn't change any of the rules to navigation concerning overtaking and give way vessels

* 3) you shouldn't get anymore visits from law enforcement than any one else. You're probably more likely to get checked at night simply because more illegal activities occur under the cover of darkness.

Pipe Dream · 03-30-2007, 10:02 AM

Guys, thanx alot!!!!

03-29-2007, 02:22 PM	#1 (permalink)
Pipe Dream Lines In Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lake Worth Boat: Searching for 36' Contender Best Catch: No World Records yet Occupation: Finance $ Posts: 45	Radar truth or false Guys, Do you know if it's true that if you have radar, the following applies? 1) You must keep it on and watching it at all times 2) If somebody hits you and they don't have radar but you do, it's your fault and not theirs...even though they hit you 3) You will get more visits from law enforcement - especially at night Is there anything else? Personally, I never paid attention to any of this in the past. Thanx alot.

03-29-2007, 03:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
quack quack Old Salt Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: lake worth Best Catch: 25lb codfish 5 yrs old first hanger Posts: 4,984	Sorry Pipe those were smart azz answers but I could not resist.In florida I would not worry about a slow speed hit like in the fog up north.I really don't think radar makes you a law enforcement target. If you have it you really will be looking at it even on nice days because you will be looking for birds with it.Go with a 6kw unit if you want to see the birds well. __________________ Either we can be a part of the solution or we can be the victims of a decision.

03-29-2007, 04:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
Relentless33 Grander Join Date: Apr 2006 Best Catch: 81" sword Posts: 2,998	If you have radar equipped on the boat you must always have it on? __________________

03-29-2007, 04:38 PM	#8 (permalink)
quack quack Old Salt Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: lake worth Best Catch: 25lb codfish 5 yrs old first hanger Posts: 4,984	Were in west lake worth do you live? __________________ Either we can be a part of the solution or we can be the victims of a decision.

03-29-2007, 04:40 PM	#9 (permalink)
Pipe Dream Lines In Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lake Worth Boat: Searching for 36' Contender Best Catch: No World Records yet Occupation: Finance $ Posts: 45	Yea, to me it makes no sense. Can this be true per the law? __________________ Live by the sword and die by the sword

03-29-2007, 03:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
WhItEoUt 23 Grander Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: pompano bch Boat: dusky 23 Best Catch: 160 lb swordfish 52 ib rooster fish Occupation: self employed Posts: 1,264	Couldnt have said it better myself ------------------------------- TIGHT LINES AND SHARP HOOK'S

03-29-2007, 03:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
Pipe Dream Lines In Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lake Worth Boat: Searching for 36' Contender Best Catch: No World Records yet Occupation: Finance $ Posts: 45	QQ, Thanx alot. In regard to 2) I see the point, but if it's a slow speed hit, I don't know who would be at fault. Thanx again.

03-29-2007, 04:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
Pipe Dream Lines In Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lake Worth Boat: Searching for 36' Contender Best Catch: No World Records yet Occupation: Finance $ Posts: 45	QQ, Understood regarding the answers. Yea, the primary purpose would be for birds. The 6kw would be my choice right now....still pondering though. Sometimes this law sxxx gets tricky. Like in an inlet with nasty weather, getting bumped, damage caused, and it's my fault because I had radar and the other boat did not. May sound silly, but some of these laws are worth a sxxx.

03-29-2007, 04:42 PM	#10 (permalink)
Pipe Dream Lines In Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lake Worth Boat: Searching for 36' Contender Best Catch: No World Records yet Occupation: Finance $ Posts: 45	QQ, Out near the Wellington boundary off of 441. __________________ Live by the sword and die by the sword

03-29-2007, 04:50 PM	#11 (permalink)
quack quack Old Salt Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: lake worth Best Catch: 25lb codfish 5 yrs old first hanger Posts: 4,984	OK I live in Winston Trails off Hypoluxo. __________________ Either we can be a part of the solution or we can be the victims of a decision.

03-29-2007, 05:01 PM	#12 (permalink)
Uncle Buck Grander Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Boat in Boynton / Home In Boca Boat: Sailfish 218CC Best Catch: 350+ Mako Occupation: Graphic Designer Posts: 1,987	Wow. You two live close. You should become best friends. __________________ Help Me Promote FishClings! - Get Your Samples Here --> FishClings-Promo

03-29-2007, 05:10 PM	#13 (permalink)
Tuna Devil Grander Join Date: Nov 2005 Occupation: Pirate Posts: 1,955	I smell play date. Sorry, couldn't resist. __________________ What do you mean I'm not kind? I'm just not your kind.

03-29-2007, 05:13 PM	#14 (permalink)
quack quack Old Salt Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: lake worth Best Catch: 25lb codfish 5 yrs old first hanger Posts: 4,984	Don't worry UB and TD I will still let you be my friends __________________ Either we can be a part of the solution or we can be the victims of a decision.

03-29-2007, 05:15 PM	#15 (permalink)
Tuna Devil Grander Join Date: Nov 2005 Occupation: Pirate Posts: 1,955	Don't i owe some more money for being my friend? __________________ What do you mean I'm not kind? I'm just not your kind. Last edited by Tuna Devil; 03-29-2007 at 05:17 PM..

03-29-2007, 05:32 PM	#16 (permalink)
Popi Lines In Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jupiter FL Boat: 52 Viking Posts: 27	The law says that all vessels use all means available to avoid a collision regardless of right of way. Radar is just another means. I was drifting on the 48 line one night and picked up a sailboat on the radar, returning from the Bahamas. Watch him for about 6 miles heading right towards us. When he got within a mile of us, I tried to radio him but got no answer. Threw the spotlight on him a couple of times and still no reply. Finally powered up and moved off our spot without picking up lines and within a few minutes he had run right over where we were fishing. He was apparently asleep at the wheel and no lookout. It would have been useless to argue fault 20 miles offshore with a 40' sailboat sticking through my hull.

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03-29-2007, 05:56 PM	#17 (permalink)
Captain Ollie Hooked Up Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Davie Florida Boat: 28 foot Kevlacat Best Catch: Strippers/Barely Legal Cheerleaders Occupation: Commercial tropical fish collector, lobster diver, bouy gear fisherman, 100ton captain Posts: 596	Popi has it right and it is an actual law in the Coast Guard CFR's. The Inland and International Rules require the use of radar in fair or foul weather, day or night, on vessels so equipped. When the Coast Guard does accident investigations that involve vessel collisions they assign a percentage of blame to all the parties involved.......No matter how one sided they seem. __________________ Remember that house you, or maybe your neighbor couldn't pay for? Well, now your gonna pay for it!!

03-29-2007, 09:16 PM	#18 (permalink)
christopherkeene9 Lines In Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Oviedo, Fl Boat: 2800 Hydrasports W/A Occupation: Student Posts: 84	As far as the Law Enforcement target I have heard up here when Otherside Tuna starts to kick in they pull over and check allvessels with big enough RADARS to spot birds. __________________ www.finlocohome.com

03-29-2007, 10:07 PM	#19 (permalink)
shipmate bill Lines In Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: jersey shore Boat: which ever one i'm working on Best Catch: 800+ # bluefin followed up by a 500 10 minutes later Occupation: Merchant marine (AB) and charter boat mate Posts: 32	False, false, and false* * 1) If you are involved in a maritime incident and are radar equipped but not using it, the first question out of the investigator's mouth will be why weren't you using all your navigational equipment * 2) you being radar equipped doesn't change any of the rules to navigation concerning overtaking and give way vessels * 3) you shouldn't get anymore visits from law enforcement than any one else. You're probably more likely to get checked at night simply because more illegal activities occur under the cover of darkness.

03-30-2007, 10:02 AM	#20 (permalink)
Pipe Dream Lines In Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lake Worth Boat: Searching for 36' Contender Best Catch: No World Records yet Occupation: Finance $ Posts: 45	Guys, thanx alot!!!! __________________ Live by the sword and die by the sword

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