What's the best strategy when lots of bait around boat?

RiskTaker · 01-07-2005, 10:36 AM

I have heard from an angler here and there that when the bait is thick around the boat, you may have a better chance to catch a swordfish if you can get out of the thick of it.

I just wonder if this is right-on track or if it doesn't matter ? Generally, it seems favorable to have baits around the boat but in reality we have caught swordfish when there are no signs of bait. It may also seem like a valid rational that your hooked baits are just one in the bunch of many unless you make sure they stand out in the crowd.

Threesenough just reported from last night: thick with Tinkers around the boat but no swordfish action.

There is a poll setup up to tally your experiences/opinions.

Is it a good idea to start chunking with some tinkers?

Threesenough · 01-07-2005, 02:38 PM

Risktaker-

I'm not sure there is any connection with the fact that we had bait around the boat and could not catch a fish. I'm looking more inside the boat at the person setting up the rigs ( Me). Anyway we have always been very happy with bait around the boat.

It will be interesting to hear different peoples opinions on the subject.

Anonymous · 01-07-2005, 07:56 PM

I have never caught a swordie when the bait was thick around the boat. I have caught a mess load of the tinkers and put them in a chum churner, they make a great chum slick on top of Capt Marks.

I have run a little bit away from the Tinkers and dropped a live tinker down with a fin cut off, or it's tail docked and caught swordies. But I still like my squid over any live bait. Not that it is better, but my hook up/landing ratio is better.

bullfighter · 01-08-2005, 12:45 PM

We're always happy to have bait around the boat. Last night while jigging for tinkers we got our best hook-up right when we had our second stringer full of the tinkers. Seems to me that the sudden action of the tinkers being caught could have excited the sword that was in the area feeding.

kai akua · 01-08-2005, 08:31 PM

M-80's....... and a big pool scoop net.

or get a skiff and due a purse net.

live bait sux...

fathead · 01-09-2005, 08:31 PM

WHAT THE #@&^ IS A TINKER? (Obviously i'm new to this fish thing)

When you are talking about bait around the boat, do you mean squids on the sonar at 300ft or various depths? Well now, do squid show up on sonar? how about Swords, do they have an air bladder?

Does the high tech sonar do anything but give you bottom and structure when it relates to the almighty sword grounds?

SONAR--did i spell that correctly?, I just got a new sonar sounder and plotter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pumped....

Plotter -- does anyone know if i can find "charts", other than the Navitronics chip, that actualy have the various hills and mounds like the paper charts that can be displayed on my new Lowrance plotter??????

kai akua · 01-10-2005, 08:03 PM

bait balls, will show up underneath you on your sounder. bloobs of red mostly, small in contarts esp. when you are sounding to the bottom on the grounds out thier. swords (or any other bigger fish), will show up as 1/4inch red lines on your sounder, these has to do with your setting, but you can usaly make out a small cresent hump as a bigger fish, and a blob as a bait ball.

hope that helps. the bait we are talking about is with in sight on the water surface or near the surface. you will pick up bait under the boat also on the sounder.

another less-dangerous trick to stun your bait (my favorite) is to put about a 1oz piece of dry ice in a small watter bottle, with it about 1/4 full of water and attach a brick to it (attach the brick first). cap the bottle and toss that baby into the water away from the boat. wait a few seconds (about 20), and watch the huge massaive air bubble come to the surface once that thing explodes. do it on land first with out the brick to see how powerfull dry-ice in a capped water bottle is. its fun, i claim no responsibility for any harm assositaed with this. (get atl east 50ft away)

Also pattato guns rock with old nasty squid inside. (esp. if you dont like your nieghbors), the squid will disinagrate on impact, so leaves very little evidene of what is leaving that god-awlful smell on your neighbors concrete wall (yes it will go through sidding)

sorry bad tangent thier.

Alohas

Robbie

FinalPoint · 01-10-2005, 08:24 PM

Sounds like somebody has too much time on their hands out there in Cali.

kai akua · 01-10-2005, 08:43 PM

if it would stop raining i could get of my damn computer and go poor-mans marlin fishing in morro-bay. :???:

View Poll Results: When the bait is thick around the boat, what is best tactic?
Stay on your drift with the bait thick and keep them there with chum.	3	23.08%
Pick up from your drift and move away a little bit.	2	15.38%
Stay on your drift, but stop chumming until it thins out.	0	0%
Catch some live baits and don't question anything Mon.	8	61.54%
Voters: 13. You may not vote on this poll

01-07-2005, 10:36 AM	#1 (permalink)
RiskTaker Grander Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pompano Beach, Florida, USA Best Catch: Had one once, then it took the boat away Posts: 1,962	What's the best strategy when lots of bait around boat? I have heard from an angler here and there that when the bait is thick around the boat, you may have a better chance to catch a swordfish if you can get out of the thick of it. I just wonder if this is right-on track or if it doesn't matter ? Generally, it seems favorable to have baits around the boat but in reality we have caught swordfish when there are no signs of bait. It may also seem like a valid rational that your hooked baits are just one in the bunch of many unless you make sure they stand out in the crowd. Threesenough just reported from last night: thick with Tinkers around the boat but no swordfish action. There is a poll setup up to tally your experiences/opinions. Is it a good idea to start chunking with some tinkers?

01-07-2005, 02:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
Threesenough Hooked Up Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Boat: Raising my three kids- boating Occupation: project manager- local shipyard Posts: 109	Risktaker- I'm not sure there is any connection with the fact that we had bait around the boat and could not catch a fish. I'm looking more inside the boat at the person setting up the rigs ( Me). Anyway we have always been very happy with bait around the boat. It will be interesting to hear different peoples opinions on the subject. __________________ Three kids - are enough

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01-07-2005, 07:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
Anonymous Grunt Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 0	I have never caught a swordie when the bait was thick around the boat. I have caught a mess load of the tinkers and put them in a chum churner, they make a great chum slick on top of Capt Marks. I have run a little bit away from the Tinkers and dropped a live tinker down with a fin cut off, or it's tail docked and caught swordies. But I still like my squid over any live bait. Not that it is better, but my hook up/landing ratio is better.

01-08-2005, 12:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
bullfighter Hooked Up Join Date: May 2004 Location: Deerfield Beach Posts: 341	We're always happy to have bait around the boat. Last night while jigging for tinkers we got our best hook-up right when we had our second stringer full of the tinkers. Seems to me that the sudden action of the tinkers being caught could have excited the sword that was in the area feeding.

01-08-2005, 08:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
kai akua Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Califorina, Ft. Lauderdale & Hawaii! Boat: um, Fishing... Occupation: mate/student/mate Posts: 168	M-80's....... and a big pool scoop net. or get a skiff and due a purse net. live bait sux...

01-09-2005, 08:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
fathead Grunt Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3	WHAT THE #@&^ IS A TINKER? (Obviously i'm new to this fish thing) When you are talking about bait around the boat, do you mean squids on the sonar at 300ft or various depths? Well now, do squid show up on sonar? how about Swords, do they have an air bladder? Does the high tech sonar do anything but give you bottom and structure when it relates to the almighty sword grounds? SONAR--did i spell that correctly?, I just got a new sonar sounder and plotter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pumped.... Plotter -- does anyone know if i can find "charts", other than the Navitronics chip, that actualy have the various hills and mounds like the paper charts that can be displayed on my new Lowrance plotter??????

01-10-2005, 08:03 PM	#7 (permalink)
kai akua Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Califorina, Ft. Lauderdale & Hawaii! Boat: um, Fishing... Occupation: mate/student/mate Posts: 168	bait balls, will show up underneath you on your sounder. bloobs of red mostly, small in contarts esp. when you are sounding to the bottom on the grounds out thier. swords (or any other bigger fish), will show up as 1/4inch red lines on your sounder, these has to do with your setting, but you can usaly make out a small cresent hump as a bigger fish, and a blob as a bait ball. hope that helps. the bait we are talking about is with in sight on the water surface or near the surface. you will pick up bait under the boat also on the sounder. another less-dangerous trick to stun your bait (my favorite) is to put about a 1oz piece of dry ice in a small watter bottle, with it about 1/4 full of water and attach a brick to it (attach the brick first). cap the bottle and toss that baby into the water away from the boat. wait a few seconds (about 20), and watch the huge massaive air bubble come to the surface once that thing explodes. do it on land first with out the brick to see how powerfull dry-ice in a capped water bottle is. its fun, i claim no responsibility for any harm assositaed with this. (get atl east 50ft away) Also pattato guns rock with old nasty squid inside. (esp. if you dont like your nieghbors), the squid will disinagrate on impact, so leaves very little evidene of what is leaving that god-awlful smell on your neighbors concrete wall (yes it will go through sidding) sorry bad tangent thier. Alohas Robbie

01-10-2005, 08:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
FinalPoint Hooked Up Join Date: May 2004 Location: Lighthouse Pt., FL Boat: Contender 36 Fisharound Best Catch: 1183 lb. Swordfish Occupation: School Posts: 883	Sounds like somebody has too much time on their hands out there in Cali.

01-10-2005, 08:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
kai akua Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Califorina, Ft. Lauderdale & Hawaii! Boat: um, Fishing... Occupation: mate/student/mate Posts: 168	if it would stop raining i could get of my damn computer and go poor-mans marlin fishing in morro-bay. :???:

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