Daytime Swording Technique?

Max'd Out · 02-27-2007, 04:10 PM

Do you do something different when swording during the daytime? Depth, light, Bait?

christopherkeene9 · 02-27-2007, 04:15 PM

Look before you post or do a search!

Tuna Devil · 02-27-2007, 04:15 PM

If we told you, we would have to kill you.

freezorburn · 02-27-2007, 05:14 PM

You use Bolony, a fish Wistle and about a zillion miles of line on your reel!

Capt'n Shane · 02-27-2007, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by freezorburn

You use Bolony, a fish Wistle and about a zillion miles of line on your reel!

Does it have to be Boars Head or will the cheap stuff work just the same?

Disco Lady · 02-27-2007, 07:32 PM

CONO!!!!!!!

Max'd Out · 02-28-2007, 09:26 AM

I'm sorry, I didn't know there was a kids section on this forum...

Capt'n Shane · 02-28-2007, 10:55 AM

The day time technique is most def classified and we would all like to know but them boys down in the keyes are writing the book on it and they ain't talking, yet. Give it some time and I'am sure you'll get wind of it. I think right now the best way to learn is to charter the "Catch 22".

christopherkeene9 · 02-28-2007, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Max'd Out

I'm sorry, I didn't know there was a kids section on this forum...

No actually there isn't but what the heck I forgot Kids don't know anything

Tuna Devil · 02-28-2007, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Max'd Out

I'm sorry, I didn't know there was a kids section on this forum...

There is a kids section on this forum? To think I have been wasting my time talking to these so called adults.

Lighten up Frances.

miamiangler1 · 02-28-2007, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Max'd Out

Do you do something different when swording during the daytime? Depth, light, Bait?

Hey Max`d out .. well it is a secret down in the Keys where they do daytime swording ... so not many guy`s have tried it up this way ... I`m working on a Idea .. but need some flat sea`s to try it out ... I did find out some info ... that might help someone else also ... think of a big chicken rig ... 12ft leaders every 50ft ... each has lights on it .. with a 20# weight ... drops down to the bottom ... this is done with a bandit rig (electric) way to heavy for my boat ... but heard of two swords at a time caught this way ... I`m going to try something the same just lighter ... let you know if it works ...

catching · 02-28-2007, 05:50 PM

Willie was thinking of something along those lines, or just doing a normal rig and dropping it slowly with the engines in reverse. We tried with Shane and we were able to get the baits down to 500-600 feet but the current was slow that day. We did pull up that Lancent fish just as the sun was setting.

snooknreds2 · 02-28-2007, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by miamiangler1

Hey Max`d out .. well it is a secret down in the Keys where they do daytime swording ... so not many guy`s have tried it up this way ... I`m working on a Idea .. but need some flat sea`s to try it out ... I did find out some info ... that might help someone else also ... think of a big chicken rig ... 12ft leaders every 50ft ... each has lights on it .. with a 20# weight ... drops down to the bottom ... this is done with a bandit rig (electric) way to heavy for my boat ... but heard of two swords at a time caught this way ... I`m going to try something the same just lighter ... let you know if it works ...

are you saying it is almost like a buoy et up but instead of a buoy ball it is attached to the reel?

miamiangler1 · 02-28-2007, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by snooknreds2

are you saying it is almost like a buoy et up but instead of a buoy ball it is attached to the reel?

I dont know much about buoy ball ... since I have been out there deepdropping ...I have made a rig already for doing it ... was thinking of using two hooks 50 ft apart .. but think when I`m out there by myself it would be to dangerous wiring the fish ... I have hit bottom with 3# lb weigth ... with a strong current running north I power drift heading south to keep the weight on the bottom ... but with swords so long it is close 30-100 ft off the bottom should be no problem doing it ... just that my reel is loaded with 1500yds of 50#braide ... just have to see if I can get a sword up with that light line..so long it`s not a 200-300 # .. then I will be out there all day long

would love to get one of those lancet fish or any other wierd fish.. also trying for those barrel fish ....... I am sure someone soon is going to figure it out ...

bajakian · 02-28-2007, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by miamiangler1

I dont know much about buoy ball ... since I have been out there deepdropping ...I have made a rig already for doing it ... was thinking of using two hooks 50 ft apart .. but think when I`m out there by myself it would be to dangerous wiring the fish ... I have hit bottom with 3# lb weigth ... with a strong current running north I power drift heading south to keep the weight on the bottom ... but with swords so long it is close 30-100 ft off the bottom should be no problem doing it ... just that my reel is loaded with 1500yds of 50#braide ... just have to see if I can get a sword up with that light line..so long it`s not a 200-300 # .. then I will be out there all day long

would love to get one of those lancet fish or any other wierd fish.. also trying for those barrel fish ....... I am sure someone soon is going to figure it out ...

That 50 lb braid may not break till you put 80 or more lbs of pressure on it. Braids are notorious for overtesting sometimes more than 2 times the rated breaking strength. I have anchored my 34 ft boat in 800 ft with 130 Power Pro. If you have any concerns about your line, see how much pressure it takes to break it. Id bet you will be surprized.

miamiangler1 · 02-28-2007, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bajakian

That 50 lb braid may not break till you put 80 or more lbs of pressure on it. Braids are notorious for overtesting sometimes more than 2 times the rated breaking strength. I have anchored my 34 ft boat in 800 ft with 130 Power Pro. If you have any concerns about your line, see how much pressure it takes to break it. Id bet you will be surprized.

I know if I am snaged on the bottom it takes a lot to break it ... I have reeled up an old large cast net from 420Ft of water and my rod holder was pulling out from all the stress I was putting on it thinking it was a monster grouper .. well I did fix the rod holders .. bolted down tight now ! .. Plus I dont have that much drag on it use about 20-25lbs ... at the heavyest

reeltherapy · 03-01-2007, 12:01 AM

Yep, Book a charter with the catch 22. You'll have it 1st hand. BTW, There are old threads on this.

Flatsfish B · 03-01-2007, 12:40 AM

I was told from someone in the bud-n-mary's fleet that they will not charter for day time swords, they do it on there own time, or sometimes with very non-fisherman type clients

miamiangler1 · 03-01-2007, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Flatsfish B

I was told from someone in the bud-n-mary's fleet that they will not charter for day time swords, they do it on there own time, or sometimes with very non-fisherman type clients

Hummm maybe I`ll have to book a trip with my uncle from germany when he`s here !!!

Capt'n Shane · 03-01-2007, 08:36 AM

Dress like a dork show up with a zebco 202 and bring your mon. That outta fool em.

Disco Lady · 03-01-2007, 09:59 AM

CONO!!!!!!!!

DonK · 03-01-2007, 10:15 AM

and don't forget a "Hills Brothers" coffee can full of worms...

Shark Tagger · 03-01-2007, 10:27 AM

all i can say is "ADD MORE WEIGHT"

ausum · 03-01-2007, 04:45 PM

They use a 3 hook chicken rig with 3 different baits down @ 1 time. Everything else every one allready knows about.. The thing is at Bud and Marys is he knows exactly where to go..

Disco Lady · 03-02-2007, 10:30 PM

02-27-2007, 04:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
Max'd Out Hooked Up Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Miami Beach Boat: Contender 33T Best Catch: 103" Sword Occupation: Real Estate/ Mortgages Posts: 245	Daytime Swording Technique? Do you do something different when swording during the daytime? Depth, light, Bait?

02-27-2007, 04:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
christopherkeene9 Lines In Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Oviedo, Fl Boat: 2800 Hydrasports W/A Occupation: Student Posts: 84	Look before you post or do a search! __________________ www.finlocohome.com

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02-27-2007, 05:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
freezorburn Hooked Up Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Jersey\Key Biscayne, FL Boat: "Norson" Custom Canaveral 28' Pilot House Best Catch: They where all the Best! Occupation: Programmer\Construction Work Posts: 412	You use Bolony, a fish Wistle and about a zillion miles of line on your reel! __________________ "The Sea Love Those Only Who Fear It"--KBYC-- Capt. Ken of the "NORSON"

02-28-2007, 05:50 PM	#12 (permalink)
catching Grander Join Date: Feb 2006 Best Catch: Swordfish 362 pounds Posts: 1,662	Willie was thinking of something along those lines, or just doing a normal rig and dropping it slowly with the engines in reverse. We tried with Shane and we were able to get the baits down to 500-600 feet but the current was slow that day. We did pull up that Lancent fish just as the sun was setting. __________________ Better to be lucky than good

02-27-2007, 07:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
Disco Lady Grander Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Miami, FL Boat: 37 Merritt Best Catch: (Blue Marlin)550 Lbs ST. Thomas (North Drop) Occupation: Charter Captain and Pimp! at night. Posts: 5,715	CONO!!!!!!!

02-28-2007, 09:26 AM	#7 (permalink)
Max'd Out Hooked Up Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Miami Beach Boat: Contender 33T Best Catch: 103" Sword Occupation: Real Estate/ Mortgages Posts: 245	I'm sorry, I didn't know there was a kids section on this forum...

02-28-2007, 10:55 AM	#8 (permalink)
Capt'n Shane Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Aventura, Florida Best Catch: 63" Swordy Occupation: oilfield production Posts: 406	The day time technique is most def classified and we would all like to know but them boys down in the keyes are writing the book on it and they ain't talking, yet. Give it some time and I'am sure you'll get wind of it. I think right now the best way to learn is to charter the "Catch 22".

03-01-2007, 12:01 AM	#17 (permalink)
reeltherapy Hooked Up Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Timberline & 50 Line Posts: 119	Yep, Book a charter with the catch 22. You'll have it 1st hand. BTW, There are old threads on this.

03-01-2007, 12:40 AM	#18 (permalink)
Flatsfish B Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boca Boat: 2300 Keywest Best Catch: 77'' pumpkin Occupation: Sales supervisor Posts: 682	I was told from someone in the bud-n-mary's fleet that they will not charter for day time swords, they do it on there own time, or sometimes with very non-fisherman type clients __________________

03-01-2007, 08:36 AM	#20 (permalink)
Capt'n Shane Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Aventura, Florida Best Catch: 63" Swordy Occupation: oilfield production Posts: 406	Dress like a dork show up with a zebco 202 and bring your mon. That outta fool em.

03-01-2007, 09:59 AM	#21 (permalink)
Disco Lady Grander Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Miami, FL Boat: 37 Merritt Best Catch: (Blue Marlin)550 Lbs ST. Thomas (North Drop) Occupation: Charter Captain and Pimp! at night. Posts: 5,715	CONO!!!!!!!!

03-01-2007, 10:27 AM	#23 (permalink)
Shark Tagger Hooked Up Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Sunny Isles Best Catch: 475lb Mako Occupation: Engineering Posts: 932	all i can say is "ADD MORE WEIGHT"

03-01-2007, 04:45 PM	#24 (permalink)
ausum Hooked Up Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Islamorada,fl Boat: Custom 50 ft. express with tower Best Catch: 550 lb blue marlin-800 bluefin-68 dolphin- Occupation: Inactive in business Posts: 110	method for daytime swordfishing They use a 3 hook chicken rig with 3 different baits down @ 1 time. Everything else every one allready knows about.. The thing is at Bud and Marys is he knows exactly where to go..

03-02-2007, 10:30 PM	#25 (permalink)
Disco Lady Grander Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Miami, FL Boat: 37 Merritt Best Catch: (Blue Marlin)550 Lbs ST. Thomas (North Drop) Occupation: Charter Captain and Pimp! at night. Posts: 5,715

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