Reel choice?

SF_2360 · 02-15-2007, 07:15 PM

Besides line capacity, what other advantage does the Tiagra 80w have over the 50Wlrs? Im looking to buy two more Sword reels/ rods, right now I have 1 50wlrs and am trying to decide if I should add 2 more 50s or 2 80s. FYI I plan on using them for stand up outfitts, short bent butt rods fishing out of a 23 foot CC. If you see any issues with this set up feel free to let me know, Im trying to learn as much as possible before I venture out.
Thanks in advance for the info.
Tom

stag11 · 02-15-2007, 07:29 PM

I fish Alutecnos 80w 2 speed. I think that they are far superior and a lot less maintenance. Forget about the bent butt's. Bent butt rods are for high speed trolling and the chair. You will not need the chair and there is no high speed trolling needed for Sword fishing. Once you go Alutecnos you will never go back. I have one accurate 80W s speed. This reel has a twin drag and is the the maserati but the price was off the charts. Good luck !

bajakian · 02-15-2007, 07:43 PM

I fished AVET reels for giant 300 lb yellowfin tuna in Puerto Vallarta and we used the standard 50's with 130 power pro. The drags are smooth and almost indestructible and can take a ton of pressure( we used 40 lbs drag standing up with those monsters). The captain that I fished with wont even fish with Tiagras any more. If you would fish for swords with power pro and 100 lb mono top shot you could fight them standing up and be more comfortable with the AVET standard 50 reels.

SF_2360 · 02-15-2007, 07:47 PM

Stag11,

Thanks for the info: I do plan on also using the for high speed trolling for wahoo and planed on going with the short butts(thats still to be determined). Also I love the Alutecnos and Accurate reels, but I get reels direct from Shimano, so I cannt pass up the price. Thanks again!

Tom

LHPfish · 02-15-2007, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stag11

I fish Alutecnos 80w 2 speed. I think that they are far superior and a lot less maintenance. Forget about the bent butt's. Bent butt rods are for high speed trolling and the chair. You will not need the chair and there is no high speed trolling needed for Sword fishing. Once you go Alutecnos you will never go back. I have one accurate 80W s speed. This reel has a twin drag and is the the maserati but the price was off the charts. Good luck !

I partially disagree, i personally like fishing w/ short bent butts as it allows you to fish a tip rod the right way and discern bites from wave action on a wavy night. Additionally they are pretty sweet in the harness. I would go w/ the 80's since they allow more capacity and taht will come in handy, nothin wrong w/ tiagras. Save the straight butts for your balloons.

Nick C · 02-15-2007, 07:53 PM

I fish all Short bent butts... Def atleast fish your tip rods on them.
But I do agree with the Alutecnos... They are sick!

I think the 80's have larger gears... a little more power.

Capt Rosco P. · 02-15-2007, 08:19 PM

I fish all 80w bent butts,you never know when the man is going to bite

Warrior · 02-15-2007, 09:08 PM

You mean the WO-man?
Definately like short bent butts better. Especailly on an open boat.

JupiterSailfish · 02-15-2007, 09:42 PM

If your not worried about the extra weight in the harness, go with the 80W's. I would fish all bent butts because they are the bomb! A lot more comfortable in the harness, plus you can fish them out of the rod holder if you want to and use way more drag out of your 80W.

Going to add an Alutecnos 80W to the arsenal around my birthday in May

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Good Luck.

WhItEoUt 23 · 02-16-2007, 12:51 AM

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02-15-2007, 07:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
SF_2360 Lines In Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: FT. Lauderdale Boat: Sailfish 2360 Posts: 14	Reel choice? Besides line capacity, what other advantage does the Tiagra 80w have over the 50Wlrs? Im looking to buy two more Sword reels/ rods, right now I have 1 50wlrs and am trying to decide if I should add 2 more 50s or 2 80s. FYI I plan on using them for stand up outfitts, short bent butt rods fishing out of a 23 foot CC. If you see any issues with this set up feel free to let me know, Im trying to learn as much as possible before I venture out. Thanks in advance for the info. Tom

02-15-2007, 07:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
Nick C Grander Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 900-1600' of water Boat: 25' Bluewater(Rough C's) Best Catch: est. 120lb Tarpon on 16lb tippet(fight time was 12 min) Occupation: Squid rigger Posts: 2,212	I fish all Short bent butts... Def atleast fish your tip rods on them. But I do agree with the Alutecnos... They are sick! I think the 80's have larger gears... a little more power. __________________ "Put your buoys out... we're comin' in HOT!"

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stag11 Lines In Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Miami Boat: Fishing, Food Occupation: Self Employed Posts: 17	I fish Alutecnos 80w 2 speed. I think that they are far superior and a lot less maintenance. Forget about the bent butt's. Bent butt rods are for high speed trolling and the chair. You will not need the chair and there is no high speed trolling needed for Sword fishing. Once you go Alutecnos you will never go back. I have one accurate 80W s speed. This reel has a twin drag and is the the maserati but the price was off the charts. Good luck !

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bajakian Grander Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ocean Ridge, Fl Boat: Venture 34 Best Catch: 300 lb Yellow fin Tuna, Blue Marlin 240 lbs on 30 lb test, 423 lb Swordfish Occupation: MD Posts: 1,102	I fished AVET reels for giant 300 lb yellowfin tuna in Puerto Vallarta and we used the standard 50's with 130 power pro. The drags are smooth and almost indestructible and can take a ton of pressure( we used 40 lbs drag standing up with those monsters). The captain that I fished with wont even fish with Tiagras any more. If you would fish for swords with power pro and 100 lb mono top shot you could fight them standing up and be more comfortable with the AVET standard 50 reels.

02-15-2007, 07:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
SF_2360 Lines In Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: FT. Lauderdale Boat: Sailfish 2360 Posts: 14	Stag11, Thanks for the info: I do plan on also using the for high speed trolling for wahoo and planed on going with the short butts(thats still to be determined). Also I love the Alutecnos and Accurate reels, but I get reels direct from Shimano, so I cannt pass up the price. Thanks again! Tom

02-15-2007, 08:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
Capt Rosco P. Lines In Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Wilmington NC and Lighthouse Point FL Boat: 55 caison and 26 regulator Best Catch: 42lb gag/28lb red gr/99lb yf tuna/81''swordy Occupation: private capt /pt commercial fisherman Posts: 30	I fish all 80w bent butts,you never know when the man is going to bite

02-15-2007, 09:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
Warrior Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ft.Pierce Boat: 60 Ocean SS/31 Contender Best Catch: 369# core Giant Bluefin Posts: 308	You mean the WO-man? Definately like short bent butts better. Especailly on an open boat.

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JupiterSailfish Hooked Up Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Jupiter, FL Best Catch: 170lb Swordy - Tag Teamed it Posts: 585	If your not worried about the extra weight in the harness, go with the 80W's. I would fish all bent butts because they are the bomb! A lot more comfortable in the harness, plus you can fish them out of the rod holder if you want to and use way more drag out of your 80W. Going to add an Alutecnos 80W to the arsenal around my birthday in May . Good Luck.

02-16-2007, 12:51 AM	#10 (permalink)
WhItEoUt 23 Grander Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: pompano bch Boat: dusky 23 Best Catch: 160 lb swordfish 52 ib rooster fish Occupation: self employed Posts: 1,264	PURE STOPPING POWER

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