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Grander
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,102
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Constantly trying to eliminate any weak link in terminal tackle so I can put more heat on a fish. This weekend we had a donkey kong on for a good minute or 5 until all the sudden the line went limp and we reeled up to check ......the snap swivel and it was open, fish and leader gone. I of course instantly started talking $hit and didnt let that particular individual hear the end of it.......however, after talking too a few people this weekend, I find out that other people have had this occur.....so maybe it wasnt his fault......but I will still talk $hit
Anyways, it got me to thinking. What do you guys think is the best snap swivel on the market? Furthermore.....have you ever had one fail? Just wondering, things like that only happen once and they dont have to happen to me for me to learn the lesson. Thanks ahead for any insight. Johnny
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Hooked Up
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Ft. Pierce, Fl
Posts: 328
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We stopped using snaps and switched over to Aussie style swivels and crimp both terminal ends. It only takes an extra few seconds and you never have to worry about a snap breaking or coming open. IMO this is the strongest connection possible.
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Hooked Up
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Deerfield Beach, FL
Boat: 36 Yellowfin "Nauti Girl"
Best Catch: My Wife
Occupation: Self Employed
Posts: 410
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I agree with BB, we made the switch to Aussies some time ago also. Just too many things can go wrong with a snap swivel in my opinion.
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Grander
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Boat in Boynton / Home In Boca
Boat: Sailfish 218CC
Best Catch: 350+ Mako
Occupation: Graphic Designer
Posts: 2,024
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The best snap swivel is one that you remember to close.
:lol: I can imagine that crimping each time ya swap baits would get to be a PITA, especially if you're getting a lot of slashed baits. I think the real question is "how often does the snap fail"? And would the extra effort to crimp to the swivel be worthwhile in the grand scheme of things? Of course, I'm talking about recreational fishing... not tournament fishing.
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Hooked Up
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Palm Beach
Boat: Swordfish / wahoo/ muttons
Occupation: Sales
Posts: 375
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I think the best one is one that does not open.
Sampo 300lb works well, but have not tried the aussies yet to compare. Fun fishing w you Dink & HF E
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Lines In
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Around 1,200 feet of water off Miami
Boat: Killing and Releasing Sword Donkies
Occupation: Salesman
Posts: 91
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I had the same problem and lost a nice fish. The snap came back opened. ](*,)
We now use barrel swivels and crimp everything. It takes longer, but having peice of mind is worth it for us... |
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Grander
Join Date: Nov 2005
Occupation: Pirate
Posts: 1,961
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If you have everything handy it is just as fast.
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Hooked Up
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Stuart, FL
Posts: 627
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Hey AG, bite me :lol: :lol: :lol: Something crazy happened down there and I dont know what, but hey maybe it saved me from losing 2 lights :lol: :lol: :lol: I replaced all the swivels :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Grander
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,102
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Seriously Zack, I bumped into a few people that say it may not have been your fault, dont get it twisted, I am still blaming you.......but it made me think about my snap swivels. I will say that there is NO WAY I am switching to those Aussie Swivels.....thanks for the input but that was not the question. I am looking for the best snap swivel on the market......any other opinions. |
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Grander
Join Date: Nov 2005
Occupation: Pirate
Posts: 1,961
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Go to your room!!!!!! :lol: :bounce: |
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Grander
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,102
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No biggy.....I just absolutely hate crimpin anything on the boat. Particularly when my hands are all squidly or there are fish around. I like to have everything crimped before hand so I can quickly just snap on new baits and fire them out. Dont understand why I would use a wind on swivel if I am fishing wind ons but I guess most of you have just eliminated wind ons and fish long leaders????
Thanks though.......I appreciate the advice
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Grander
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Johnny:
Those same thoughts have gone through my mind after our highly experienced "Capt. Andy" chimed in with his advice about line/leader connections, perhaps mainly applicable to Marlin and/or tournament fishing. His advice was to crimp both ends to the ball bearing swivel (not a wind-on swivel either). After much mental debate and comparing to practical fun fishing, I decided to stick with the snap swivels for dead baits and perhaps a direct crimp for the livies only. (B-B Swivel on hook or perhaps a Double ring B-B swivel. ) So the question remains, who makes the best B-B Snap Swivel? Personally, I don't know. But I will suggest that you try the Sampo Black Ball Bearing swivel (#400 lb.) These look exactly like the ( #300) Swivels but "they are not made for girly-men". They do require a sustantial amount of effort to snap closed. So much so that I have even considered to back off from them. I would think that it would be nearly impossible to flip one of these babies open, once set out. But it always happens, just when you think you hhave everything alright, a defect occurs where you think you have perfected the process. Case in point. We had a big swordfish on last Wednesday night: the wind-on leader popped. Let's see if that calls anyone's attention. Well before anyone starts jumping to conclusions: the monofilament portion of the wind-on snapped, (ie. 200# Momoi Diamond). So the braid held, the finger trap held, the serve held, but the mono snapped. The failure occurred right in the area where an LP Electrolume was clipped onto bar mono. So I think my lesson learned from this, for lack of anything else to blame, is to wrap a protective layer of wax line onto the monofilament. I guess #200 was not enough to prevent a failure. |
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Hooked Up
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Stuart, FL
Posts: 627
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Johnny I upgraded to 300# not sure what they are called, but the are BB SS swivel, hard as hell to close, so make sure you close it next time you put out the bait :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Grander
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Boat in Boynton / Home In Boca
Boat: Sailfish 218CC
Best Catch: 350+ Mako
Occupation: Graphic Designer
Posts: 2,024
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Lines In
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: LIGHTHOUSE POINT
Boat: CONTENDER
Posts: 19
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hiliner fishing takle has escape proof swivels ihave used them for years with no problem check there site
Hi-Catch Ball-Bearing Escape Proof Snap Swivels Imagine combining the action of our revolutionary "Rotary" swivel with a patented "Escape-Proof" Snap! The Hi-Catch "Rotary" swivel features two sets of casehardened precision ball-bearings and rotates freely on both ends. Action at each swivel end produces an additional degree of freedom and extended swivel life. Our patented "Escape-Proof" snap offers quick disconnects and proven design under the most rigorous fishing conditions. The Hi-Catch Rotary Swivel with "Escape-Proof" Snap is available in several sizes and Rotary Swivel combinations. Hi-Catch Rotary Swivels www.hiliner.com |
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