Great Story!!

Another Grand · 10-08-2006, 03:13 PM

So.......my buddy Johnny Rodgers who taught me a great deal of what I know about swording fishes on 20' Dusky Controlled slack had 4-80's out last night. A friend who he was fishing with brought a 50 TLD 2 speed with Power Pro so they put it out. Of course .....you know which rod the fish hit. A short time into the battle they were bowed up tight, and the rod snapped(not the first time this has happened to him in a tournament) and the reel shattered. Johnny grabbed gloves and handlined the fish for over an hour on Power Pro........and ended up catching it, 73", and winning $5000 bucks.

Congrats J.R. and crew..........I will try to get the pics tonight or tommorow and post them, they have pics of the whole thing.

Venice Tunaman · 10-08-2006, 03:18 PM

Cool story... Usually those tld 50's are pretty reliable...

Cant wait to see the pix.

Beerman · 10-08-2006, 03:25 PM

Thats against the rules, handlines are not allowed J/K cool story......lmao

Nick C · 10-08-2006, 03:37 PM

Zack, lol... i was kinda worried it would get DQ'ed because of that.

Controlled Slack is the real deal... that's crazy!!! Glad they put her in the boat!! They earned their check lol!!!!

Uncle Buck · 10-08-2006, 09:28 PM

Well, in NASCAR, cars have to fit specific body templates in order to pass inspection and be allowed to race. But if they, um, "reshape" some of the body panels during a race due to accidents (rubbin' is racin' Cole) they are not disqualified. I imagine it's the same here. A tackle failure would not be considered an advantage, and therefore shouldn't be disqualified.

Another Grand · 10-08-2006, 11:18 PM

Ok........I would like to edit that story.......the rod did not snap........must have been a little late ......the reel shattered from the rod. I will get some pics

Boboe · 10-08-2006, 11:44 PM

TLD50's are known to do that. My good friend had that happen on a blue marlin. Relentless33 had that happen to him on a sword.

I had a customer snap a hollow rod on a 100# yellowfin. I dumped a load of line off the reel attached to the fish onto the deck, cut the line and had my second mate handline the fish. The captain kept us on top of the fish, and my second mate gave line from the pile to the fish when needed. I blood knotted the line to another still-intact rod, and I stuck the gaff in his head 10 minutes later.

I'm surprised they didn't do the same.

Beerman · 10-09-2006, 07:40 AM

Yup, I beleive Shimano has been or may even have fixed that problem, I know they were testing a few new designs for the TLD's. The Graphite comp. that they are made of eventually gets weak and cant handle the drag that we are putting on them and just a little crack near the reel seat and lots of drag and its history......I have seen it happen as well, but they are still a good reel for the $$$

Nightfighter · 10-09-2006, 08:16 AM

The Graphite comp.

I would never fish them in a tourny. WTF Johnny, you know better than that. Call me next time if you need to borrow some gear.
I thought you were going to 130's

They sure are nice and light though, good for everyday fishing, not for swordys.
Awesome recovery Johnny :shock: :thumright:

e-money · 10-09-2006, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfighter

The Graphite comp.

I would never fish them in a tourny. WTF Johnny, you know better than that. Call me next time if you need to borrow some gear.
I thought you were going to 130's

They sure are nice and light though, good for everyday fishing, not for swordys.
Awesome recovery Johnny :shock: :thumright:

Nightfighter, Johnny WAS fishing 130's on another boat.
(he was just relaying the story from his buds on controlled slack.)

We went 3 for 10, but nothing close to the top 3 (303,298,231)

Another Grand · 10-09-2006, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfighter

The Graphite comp.

I would never fish them in a tourny. WTF Johnny, you know better than that. Call me next time if you need to borrow some gear.
I thought you were going to 130's

They sure are nice and light though, good for everyday fishing, not for swordys.
Awesome recovery Johnny :shock: :thumright:

Wait a second, wasnt me, I was riding dirty.......I upgraded to 130 and 80s. It was a friend of mine, Johnny, that I usually fish the tournaments with. He had 4-80s out and then 1 -50

Relentless33 · 10-09-2006, 08:38 AM

We were told it happened because of a "hairline crack" that we caused. When you tighten the backing screws you can over tighten them and cause this "hairline crack" which causes problems under pressure.

Beerman · 10-09-2006, 08:47 AM

Well JR that sounds about right as well too. I had the bolt on my Tiagra snap on SAT night while fighting the 70 incher to the boat, but no real issues just kept an eye on the reel seat, but it never moved.

Duke · 10-09-2006, 09:46 AM

Graphite TLD's just don't have the strength of the metal frames. IF truely into the darkside, need to go strong or understand it will happen one day! DUKE

Relentless33 · 10-09-2006, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beerman

Well JR that sounds about right as well too. I had the bolt on my Tiagra snap on SAT night while fighting the 70 incher to the boat, but no real issues just kept an eye on the reel seat, but it never moved.

We were lucky as well...Because I was harnessed up tightly to the reel we had no problems. We just heard it and saw it break, but everything stayed right in place because of the pressure that was being applied to it. I probably could've finished fighting the fish under that condition but I got out of the harness as quickly as possible. We fought the fish with the rod on the gunnel and my Dad walking from one side of the boat to the other holding the reel.

We were rewarded with a semi-pumpkin fish that had a tag in it. As well as an amazing story

catching · 10-09-2006, 10:07 AM

Did you ever get the tag results :?:

Relentless33 · 10-09-2006, 10:14 AM

Yes sir we did...

The fish was tagged 4 years earlier on my Dad's birthday :shock:

Weighed an estimated 50 pounds and I don't remember the length measurement. It grew I think around 15 inches and almost 100 lbs. So about 20 pounds a year. Which shows different growth patterns than other fish because we have heard of fish growing about 40-50 pounds in one year.

Nightfighter · 10-09-2006, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Another Grand

Wait a second, wasnt me, I was riding dirty.......I upgraded to 130 and 80s. It was a friend of mine, Johnny, that I usually fish the tournaments with. He had 4-80s out and then 1 -50

Gotcha, I have to work on my reading skills, my bad. #-o
It sure didn't sound like something you would do.

Another Grand · 10-09-2006, 10:25 AM

No actually its ironic.......because we usually fish the tournament together and combine gear to come up with a 20' boat capable of taking on Jaws or Moby Dick (3 harpoons, 80s, 130s, bangsticks, jap balls, ect) But I had to keep my crew from the last win since he wasnt in town for that one. We spoke earlier in the morning and I was like damn I only got 4 rods.....he was like $hit me too........if you ever fished with either of us.......4 rods does not cut it. We both said there is no way were putting out a 50, cus you know what will happen. Sure enough.

The same thing that happen to jr is what happened to JR. The back just cracked and he angler was still harnessed up and the rod attached with line from the reel going through the rod.

catching · 10-09-2006, 10:31 AM

No more 50's in the spread since the sea monster's keep getting hooked on that rod and leaving the 80's alone. I am telling you they swim up to the boat check things out then slam the bait on the smallest Rod :lol:

Same thing hapened to us Saturday, only two solid hook ups were on the 50, they just played with the baits that we on the 80's.

Flyers Up · 10-09-2006, 02:05 PM

Well that is just peachie!!!

I was on my way to buy 2 TLD 50's today BUT now i am not sure if i should buy them.

Any body have any use 80's FOR SALE?

Nick C · 10-09-2006, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyers Up

I was on my way to buy 2 TLD 50's today BUT now i am not sure if i should buy them.

:stup ... Right when I was going pick up two more, I know have mey 2 TLD 50's up for sale. :???:

Nick C · 10-09-2006, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catching

Same thing hapened to us Saturday, only two solid hook ups were on the 50, they just played with the baits that we on the 80's.

We could only buy our bites on the 130's (and a calcutta 700 lol). That was good I guess!!

e-money · 10-09-2006, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyers Up

Well that is just peachie!!!

I was on my way to buy 2 TLD 50's today BUT now i am not sure if i should buy them.

Any body have any use 80's FOR SALE?

Flyers Up, I have a pair of Penn international 80's on very nice 80lb class ++ STAR rods (STOUT combos.)

Would sell for approx $500.00 each,

Call me Crazy, but I prefer stand up on JB w 50's for fish to 250lbs or so.

Beerman · 10-09-2006, 03:31 PM

E$ how old are those Penns?? Dang I dotn need the rods though

Flyers Up · 10-09-2006, 04:00 PM

e-money

Consider them sold if they are in good condition.

I sent you a PM call my cell.

Thanks

quack quack · 10-11-2006, 07:41 AM

cool story

10-08-2006, 03:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
Another Grand Grander Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,293	Great Story!! So.......my buddy Johnny Rodgers who taught me a great deal of what I know about swording fishes on 20' Dusky Controlled slack had 4-80's out last night. A friend who he was fishing with brought a 50 TLD 2 speed with Power Pro so they put it out. Of course .....you know which rod the fish hit. A short time into the battle they were bowed up tight, and the rod snapped(not the first time this has happened to him in a tournament) and the reel shattered. Johnny grabbed gloves and handlined the fish for over an hour on Power Pro........and ended up catching it, 73", and winning $5000 bucks. Congrats J.R. and crew..........I will try to get the pics tonight or tommorow and post them, they have pics of the whole thing.

10-08-2006, 03:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
Beerman Hooked Up Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Stuart, FL Posts: 680	Thats against the rules, handlines are not allowed J/K cool story......lmao __________________ Word of Wisdom: Many a problem will solve itself, if we forget it and go FISHING!!!!

10-08-2006, 03:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
Nick C Grander Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Delray Beach Best Catch: .5lb Brim on 17lb test Occupation: Charter Boat Captain. Posts: 2,402	Zack, lol... i was kinda worried it would get DQ'ed because of that. Controlled Slack is the real deal... that's crazy!!! Glad they put her in the boat!! They earned their check lol!!!! __________________ "Put your buoys out... we're comin' in HOT!"

10-09-2006, 07:40 AM	#8 (permalink)
Beerman Hooked Up Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Stuart, FL Posts: 680	Yup, I beleive Shimano has been or may even have fixed that problem, I know they were testing a few new designs for the TLD's. The Graphite comp. that they are made of eventually gets weak and cant handle the drag that we are putting on them and just a little crack near the reel seat and lots of drag and its history......I have seen it happen as well, but they are still a good reel for the $$$ __________________ Word of Wisdom: Many a problem will solve itself, if we forget it and go FISHING!!!!

10-09-2006, 08:16 AM	#9 (permalink)
Nightfighter Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: South Florida Occupation: Wishin to be Fishin 24/7 Posts: 558	The Graphite comp. I would never fish them in a tourny. WTF Johnny, you know better than that. Call me next time if you need to borrow some gear. I thought you were going to 130's They sure are nice and light though, good for everyday fishing, not for swordys. Awesome recovery Johnny :shock: :thumright: __________________ -----NightFightersLures.com----- Swordfish Guide Swordfishguide.com

10-08-2006, 03:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
Venice Tunaman Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Venice Louisiana Posts: 213	Cool story... Usually those tld 50's are pretty reliable... Cant wait to see the pix.

10-08-2006, 09:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
Uncle Buck Grander Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mouth of the Rat Boat: Sailfish 218CC Best Catch: First fish ever = 3ft sand tiger on kite string Occupation: Graphic Designer Posts: 3,309	Well, in NASCAR, cars have to fit specific body templates in order to pass inspection and be allowed to race. But if they, um, "reshape" some of the body panels during a race due to accidents (rubbin' is racin' Cole) they are not disqualified. I imagine it's the same here. A tackle failure would not be considered an advantage, and therefore shouldn't be disqualified.

10-08-2006, 11:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
Another Grand Grander Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,293	Ok........I would like to edit that story.......the rod did not snap........must have been a little late ......the reel shattered from the rod. I will get some pics

10-08-2006, 11:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
Boboe Hooked Up Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, TX Occupation: Alaskan Fishing Guide, Gulf of Mexico Offshore Crew Boat Captain Posts: 897	TLD50's are known to do that. My good friend had that happen on a blue marlin. Relentless33 had that happen to him on a sword. I had a customer snap a hollow rod on a 100# yellowfin. I dumped a load of line off the reel attached to the fish onto the deck, cut the line and had my second mate handline the fish. The captain kept us on top of the fish, and my second mate gave line from the pile to the fish when needed. I blood knotted the line to another still-intact rod, and I stuck the gaff in his head 10 minutes later. I'm surprised they didn't do the same.

10-09-2006, 08:38 AM	#12 (permalink)
Relentless33 Grander Join Date: Apr 2006 Best Catch: 81" sword 165Bigeye 110Bluefin Posts: 3,173	We were told it happened because of a "hairline crack" that we caused. When you tighten the backing screws you can over tighten them and cause this "hairline crack" which causes problems under pressure. __________________

10-09-2006, 08:47 AM	#13 (permalink)
Beerman Hooked Up Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Stuart, FL Posts: 680	Well JR that sounds about right as well too. I had the bolt on my Tiagra snap on SAT night while fighting the 70 incher to the boat, but no real issues just kept an eye on the reel seat, but it never moved. __________________ Word of Wisdom: Many a problem will solve itself, if we forget it and go FISHING!!!!

10-09-2006, 09:46 AM	#14 (permalink)
Duke Hooked Up Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 271	Graphite TLD's just don't have the strength of the metal frames. IF truely into the darkside, need to go strong or understand it will happen one day! DUKE

10-09-2006, 10:07 AM	#16 (permalink)
catching Grander Join Date: Feb 2006 Best Catch: Swordfish 362 pounds Posts: 1,666	Did you ever get the tag results :?:

10-09-2006, 10:14 AM	#17 (permalink)
Relentless33 Grander Join Date: Apr 2006 Best Catch: 81" sword 165Bigeye 110Bluefin Posts: 3,173	Yes sir we did... The fish was tagged 4 years earlier on my Dad's birthday :shock: Weighed an estimated 50 pounds and I don't remember the length measurement. It grew I think around 15 inches and almost 100 lbs. So about 20 pounds a year. Which shows different growth patterns than other fish because we have heard of fish growing about 40-50 pounds in one year.

10-09-2006, 10:25 AM	#19 (permalink)
Another Grand Grander Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,293	No actually its ironic.......because we usually fish the tournament together and combine gear to come up with a 20' boat capable of taking on Jaws or Moby Dick (3 harpoons, 80s, 130s, bangsticks, jap balls, ect) But I had to keep my crew from the last win since he wasnt in town for that one. We spoke earlier in the morning and I was like damn I only got 4 rods.....he was like $hit me too........if you ever fished with either of us.......4 rods does not cut it. We both said there is no way were putting out a 50, cus you know what will happen. Sure enough. The same thing that happen to jr is what happened to JR. The back just cracked and he angler was still harnessed up and the rod attached with line from the reel going through the rod.

10-09-2006, 10:31 AM	#20 (permalink)
catching Grander Join Date: Feb 2006 Best Catch: Swordfish 362 pounds Posts: 1,666	No more 50's in the spread since the sea monster's keep getting hooked on that rod and leaving the 80's alone. I am telling you they swim up to the boat check things out then slam the bait on the smallest Rod :lol: Same thing hapened to us Saturday, only two solid hook ups were on the 50, they just played with the baits that we on the 80's.

10-09-2006, 02:05 PM	#21 (permalink)
Flyers Up Lines In Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hollywood Boat: Fishing, camping, four wheeling Posts: 30	TLD 50's Well that is just peachie!!! I was on my way to buy 2 TLD 50's today BUT now i am not sure if i should buy them. Any body have any use 80's FOR SALE?

10-09-2006, 03:31 PM	#25 (permalink)
Beerman Hooked Up Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Stuart, FL Posts: 680	E$ how old are those Penns?? Dang I dotn need the rods though __________________ Word of Wisdom: Many a problem will solve itself, if we forget it and go FISHING!!!!

10-09-2006, 04:00 PM	#26 (permalink)
Flyers Up Lines In Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hollywood Boat: Fishing, camping, four wheeling Posts: 30	Pemm 50's e-money Consider them sold if they are in good condition. I sent you a PM call my cell. Thanks

10-11-2006, 07:41 AM	#27 (permalink)
quack quack Old Salt Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: lake worth Best Catch: 25lb codfish 5 yrs old first hanger Posts: 6,408	cool story __________________ Amagansett means “place of good water” in one American Indian tongue, and for generations of Lesters who have lived here, it’s been true in the most literal way.

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