Loading Tiagra 80W's

[ballyhu]

I just pulled my set of Tiagra 80w's out of mothballs and want to load them for use during the next couple of months...and some anticipated bigger fish. I'm thinking 100# power pro and the same mono. I'd apreciate some advice on how much of what. Heck, I don't even know how much power pro they will hold but it's probably more than I can afford to buy. I'm sure somebody has found the right combination and can give me an idea so I can buy in bulk. I will be filling 4 reels. Thanks in advance.

[Hicatch]

Don't use PP or any solid spectra line; I recommend 1200yds of 130# Line One Hollow Core and a 100yd Top Shot of 100-130# Diamond and still have room for a Wind On. Here is a chart that will give you what the capacity of an 80W is with room for a Top Shot and Wind-On: http://bhptackle.com/pages.php?pageid=20

[Duke]

I would do it exactly like HiCatch - 1200 yards 130# Jerry Brown, The top shot in 130# Momoi and then the 25 foot 300# windon

[Certifiable]

What is wrong with solid spectra line ? I spool my 80's with 800 yds of 8o# mono backer / 800 yds of 100# tuff line (spectra)/ top shot of 50yds of 130# flourocarbon / 200# sampo swivel to leader. I have used this set up very succesfully for Tuna fishing and now will be using the same rod for swords. I am only begining to learn the specifics of tackle rigging for swords, but I can't see the value in stripping down the expensive spectra for a hollow core line set up. I would appreciate any insight if I am off target here.

[Shark Tagger]

Certifiable - Definetely not worth stripping your 80's.

If someone is gong to put new line, the hollowcore is the way to go..

knotless connections, easy to work with, and you can load it on the reel.

[Flatsfish B]

I would put 200# Straight jerry brown spliced into 25 feet of 300# wind on.

[Duke]

Ditto Shark Tagger and is much easier on the hands. #130 is best no compromise combination of capacity, strength and useability. Certifiable that sounds like a lot of line/windon for an 80.

[Certifiable]

Duke, this set up is used primarily for chasing Yellowfin Tuna. When you set the spread and roll it up 12 - 15 times in a day, you need to keep the spool close to full to maximize retrieve speed. I fill the bulk of the spool with the 80# mono backer (I assume it was 700 - 800 yds to take it 3/4 full), then we add the spectra, which is easier to avoid bunching up the line when we lay out and retrieve 200 yds on a lure spread. The spectra also allows me to use an albright knot to the backer and windon for a lower profile knot size. The 50 yds of flourocarbon wind on is critical for tuna fishing, those big eyes can see everything in the daylight. I leave some room at the top of the spool to avoid the line binding if we bunch up a little on the retrieve.

[Tuna Devil]

You troll with flouro? Or is that for chunking?

[Certifiable]

Troll with 50yds of flourocarbon windon leader. Definitely notice a higher success rate compared to regular mono. The cost upgrade is minimal when you look at the overall trip cost with gas $$$$.

[e-money]

Originally Posted by Certifiable

What is wrong with solid spectra line ? I spool my 80's with 800 yds of 8o# mono backer / 800 yds of 100# tuff line (spectra)/ top shot of 50yds of 130# flourocarbon / 200# sampo swivel to leader. I have used this set up very succesfully for Tuna fishing and now will be using the same rod for swords. I am only begining to learn the specifics of tackle rigging for swords, but I can't see the value in stripping down the expensive spectra for a hollow core line set up. I would appreciate any insight if I am off target here.

Certifiable:

IMHO, the Jerry Brown (hollow Core) is MUCH "friendlier" to work with under tension. It is softer & less likely to cause injury.

Spider Wire, or Spectra when taut, can really cut / hurt when swording at night.

[Tuna Devil]

You have a higher hook-up rate with Flouro?


Sorry don't mean to derail.

I will go back in my hole. :twisted:

[Broadbill]

I think you guys are wasting money fishing Flouro leaders trolling (Just my opinion, did that sound harsh?). Next time you are marlin or tuna fishing look at your rigger baits (or tag lines), only about two feet of your leader is touching the water due to the angle. Better yet it is covered by whitewater and in front of a nasty smoking bait. Your short baits are closer to the corners (obviously) and covered by even more turbulance. We started tuna fishing with light Flouro leaders but later changed our thinking. With the occasional marlin bite we upped our leader sizes. I currently tuna fish (troll) with 250# momoi and surely haven't lost pace on the tunas. We have even caught a few on larger lures rigged with 600# extra hard intended for the blue fella. If you are chunking or live baiting i would go with light Flouro for sure, but in my opinion I would save your money on Florurocarbon for trolling and by more beer. :lol:

[Tuna Devil]

300lb all the way. And more Beer.

[Certifiable]

E-MONEY: I will agree that I have been "spectra cised" my fingers many times. Is the hollow core the same diameter as solid ? If it is, that will be my new line of choice. I am tired of slicing my hands when tying knots.

DEVIL: That appears to be the case. The flouro also has been very forgiving when the tuna go into the dreaded "death spiral" beside the boat, and suddenly make a run for anything that can chaffe the line like a trim tab. You sound like you are primarily a Tuna Killer like me. However, this Sword fishing thing is getting very interesting. I love the thought of bigger fish, and less fuel !!

[Nightfighter]

Ballyho,
Talk with Tek, forum member runs ReelProShop, He will go over all your options and costs. Good guy very, very fair prices, he's wealth of information, when it comes to that stuff.
Jerry Brown Hollowcore now seems to be state of the art. I have all my 80STW's filled with 100# Sufix Mono, and it has worked great for me for years. Never any problems. I respool all my reels that have mono, about every season. (once a year at least)

[Tuna Devil]

The Sword runs are definetly easier. I can't seem to put JB or any Braid on my stump pullers. Big mono big drag, Stop em or pop em.

[Duke]

The 130# JBHC is the diameter of 40# mono , so plenty of capacity and but thick enough over the 80# HC to be easy on the hands...DUKE

[Another Grand]

My input,

My friends and I have had a few length battles anywhere from 7 to 18 hours fighting these monsters. There comes a point where 80 lbs mono has it limits and it allows these fish to escape. The fish can just sit down there and due to the inherent stretch of 80 or even 100lbs mono it is a lose lose battle and you can only hope that the fish tires....... before you or more likely your crew get anxious and keeps tightening down the drag, you run out of fuel, or you just cant take it anymore. I understand that mono is necessary for records and what not but I really dont give a chit. When that fish sits down there you are f#cked and there is nothing you can do with 80 lbs mono, enventually as happens in every occurence the mono pops, probably dude to some tiny abrasion or something such as happened to Sean with the line cutting back into the spool. Now, in now way am I saying that the monster cant be caught with 80lbs mono, that is waaaaaaay possible but will take a great crew and a bit of luck. What I am saying is that a topshot of JBHC 200lbs or 300lbs for 600-700 yards WILL MOVE THAT FISH. I know eerybody likes to say that they fish however many crazy pounds of drag but I will make a pretty good assumption that anybody that actually test the drag they have on their reels is overestimating there drag poundage considerably. If you wanna keep it sporty thats fine, but there are others who are out there with one purpose after one fish, myself being one of them. I wrote Tek an email today concerning this and maybe he will respond on here. I would like my 80's to be filled to the brim or at least topshotted with enough Spectra be it hollowcore or not to move the fish when he goes deep. Mono catches so much drag from the water that even when you are applying all that pressure to the fish you are losing pressure to the water.

Anyways, same disclaimers as always, I dont know $hit, but I am readjusting the way my 80's are spooled. Hopfully Tek will respond on here, if not I will let you know what the email says

Johnny

[JahMussa]

Originally Posted by Certifiable

What is wrong with solid spectra line ? I spool my 80's with 800 yds of 8o# mono backer / 800 yds of 100# tuff line (spectra)/ top shot of 50yds of 130# flourocarbon / 200# sampo swivel to leader.

Wow... I want one of your 80's!!! Is that a custom built 80W you are using as those line capacity's you stated are WAY off as compared to the reels I'm spooling.

I really like Jerry Brown hollow core!! There are many ways to configure these reels and it all depends on your style of fishing. Light drag pressure... you will want to maximize your line capacity. Heavy drag... go with a heavier line where you can pop'em or stop'em. If you fish a lot and don't like attaching balloons, weights, etc to your spectra, simply use it as backing and use a longer topshot of mono. This way you are only changing out a 100 or so yards vs 950 yards of mostly unused mono.

You keep spectra like luggage.. .. for the rest of your life and the longer you have it... the cheaper it becomes. However, you will need to removed worn sections from time to time and splice in new hollowcore. The beauty of this is that it's a knotless connection. And when done correctly, most couldn't find the splice. Anyone wanting to learn the tricks to do this... I'm only a phone call away.

FYI... Anyone thinking of getting some.. do so soon as the prices are about to go up in October.

-Tek