Spanish Macks for sword baits?

Chasin' Tales · 06-15-2006, 06:02 PM

Has anyone had any success using spanish macks for sword baits? I'm talking about a rigged up spanish like what is used when trolling for marlin.

quack quack · 06-16-2006, 08:02 AM

They have worked for me in the past.I have got cut off twice by Mr Mako using spanish rigged like that.Both times never saw anything move just reeled in to check the bait and it was gone.

Broadbill · 06-16-2006, 09:20 AM

They work great. Rig them exactly like you would a marlin bait (skip bait), just make sure you break there backs. They actually swim and dart around in the current. It's amazing how alive they look under an l.p.

-Put a few extra stitches around where your hook comes out of the belly. They eat a lot more sloppy than a marlin and you don't want your hook to get out of line.

RiskTaker · 06-16-2006, 09:25 AM

Quack quack:

Did you rig up your Mackerals with a tandem-J or a tandem treble?

What dou you think if you were to use cable for the the tandem hook connection? (In the event you prefer not to get cutoff.)

Any problem with doing that if you' re trying for marllin. Your backup in case those pesky Wahoo decide to muscle in on the spread.

Seems like everytime that I hear wire introduced, when you were trying to use monofilament, that the bite takes are turn in the unpreferred direction.. They must be able to smell wire? Even if it is tucked away.

quack quack · 06-16-2006, 09:35 AM

I think fish can sense wire even if they can not see it

Maybe there lat line can feel it or something :???: I use a single hook on my macks.The comes out under the fish about a third of the way down the length of the bait.I think they try to swallow head first so that puts the hook in the sweet spot

RiskTaker · 06-16-2006, 10:24 AM

Have you tried rigging them in reverse for swordfish, drift fishing style?

I've only done live tinkers, blue runners or goggle eyes, so that method is not applicable there. But for dead butterflied tinkers it is the way we do it.

Any preference for that?

Hey, when we were in Lucaya last month we prepared a few yellowtales and lane snapper pan fry style. That involved scaling the fish, degutting and gilling it. We also used my sheers to nip the pec fins, dorsal fins and about half of the tail fin. Moses showed me that style. It looked pretty good for a pan fry fish. (It's good, tuda bone.)

I think that the next time I rig a dead mackeral, blue runner or other spiny reef fish for swordfishing, I think I may trying doing a little big of spiny nip-tucks and see how that works, leaving the scales alone, of course. Sounds like a nice tasty sword snack to me: down the hatch and hook-in if they chomp them in, head first.

quack quack · 06-16-2006, 10:32 AM

:lol: :lol:

Broadbill-Pro · 06-16-2006, 02:25 PM

Lots of experimentation with wire vs mono...

oh yea, I forgot :roflmao:

how am i doing eric?

Captain Ollie · 06-16-2006, 02:34 PM

In my experiments they do not care about wire. I used 275# coffee colored multistrand.

Chasin' Tales · 06-17-2006, 07:09 AM

Thanks fellas! Looks like I'm going to have to give the mack's a try!

06-15-2006, 06:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
Chasin' Tales Lines In Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pensacola Posts: 44	Spanish Macks for sword baits? Has anyone had any success using spanish macks for sword baits? I'm talking about a rigged up spanish like what is used when trolling for marlin.

06-16-2006, 08:02 AM	#2 (permalink)
quack quack Old Salt Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: lake worth Best Catch: 25lb codfish 5 yrs old first hanger Posts: 4,602	They have worked for me in the past.I have got cut off twice by Mr Mako using spanish rigged like that.Both times never saw anything move just reeled in to check the bait and it was gone. __________________ Either we can be a part of the solution or we can be the victims of a decision.

06-16-2006, 09:35 AM	#5 (permalink)
quack quack Old Salt Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: lake worth Best Catch: 25lb codfish 5 yrs old first hanger Posts: 4,602	I think fish can sense wire even if they can not see it Maybe there lat line can feel it or something :???: I use a single hook on my macks.The comes out under the fish about a third of the way down the length of the bait.I think they try to swallow head first so that puts the hook in the sweet spot __________________ Either we can be a part of the solution or we can be the victims of a decision.

06-16-2006, 10:32 AM	#7 (permalink)
quack quack Old Salt Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: lake worth Best Catch: 25lb codfish 5 yrs old first hanger Posts: 4,602	:lol: :lol: __________________ Either we can be a part of the solution or we can be the victims of a decision.

06-16-2006, 02:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
Captain Ollie Hooked Up Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Davie Florida Boat: 28 foot Kevlacat Best Catch: Strippers/Barely Legal Cheerleaders Occupation: Commercial tropical fish collector, lobster diver, bouy gear fisherman, 100ton captain Posts: 607	In my experiments they do not care about wire. I used 275# coffee colored multistrand. __________________ Remember that house you, or maybe your neighbor couldn't pay for? Well, now your gonna pay for it!!

06-16-2006, 09:20 AM	#3 (permalink)
Broadbill Hooked Up Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ft. Pierce, Fl Posts: 328	They work great. Rig them exactly like you would a marlin bait (skip bait), just make sure you break there backs. They actually swim and dart around in the current. It's amazing how alive they look under an l.p. -Put a few extra stitches around where your hook comes out of the belly. They eat a lot more sloppy than a marlin and you don't want your hook to get out of line.

06-16-2006, 09:25 AM	#4 (permalink)
RiskTaker Grander Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pompano Beach, Florida, USA Best Catch: Had one once, then it took the boat away Posts: 1,969	Quack quack: Did you rig up your Mackerals with a tandem-J or a tandem treble? What dou you think if you were to use cable for the the tandem hook connection? (In the event you prefer not to get cutoff.) Any problem with doing that if you' re trying for marllin. Your backup in case those pesky Wahoo decide to muscle in on the spread. Seems like everytime that I hear wire introduced, when you were trying to use monofilament, that the bite takes are turn in the unpreferred direction.. They must be able to smell wire? Even if it is tucked away.

06-16-2006, 10:24 AM	#6 (permalink)
RiskTaker Grander Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pompano Beach, Florida, USA Best Catch: Had one once, then it took the boat away Posts: 1,969	Have you tried rigging them in reverse for swordfish, drift fishing style? I've only done live tinkers, blue runners or goggle eyes, so that method is not applicable there. But for dead butterflied tinkers it is the way we do it. Any preference for that? Hey, when we were in Lucaya last month we prepared a few yellowtales and lane snapper pan fry style. That involved scaling the fish, degutting and gilling it. We also used my sheers to nip the pec fins, dorsal fins and about half of the tail fin. Moses showed me that style. It looked pretty good for a pan fry fish. (It's good, tuda bone.) I think that the next time I rig a dead mackeral, blue runner or other spiny reef fish for swordfishing, I think I may trying doing a little big of spiny nip-tucks and see how that works, leaving the scales alone, of course. Sounds like a nice tasty sword snack to me: down the hatch and hook-in if they chomp them in, head first.

06-16-2006, 02:25 PM	#8 (permalink)
Broadbill-Pro Grander Join Date: Jan 2006 Best Catch: When I look at a Commercial Fishing Vessel I see 300 million Americans and you only see the Crew Posts: 1,306	Lots of experimentation with wire vs mono... oh yea, I forgot :roflmao: how am i doing eric?

06-17-2006, 07:09 AM	#10 (permalink)
Chasin' Tales Lines In Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pensacola Posts: 44	Thanks fellas! Looks like I'm going to have to give the mack's a try!

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