Sword Newbie Question: Penn V Series or Shimano Tiagra

TeamTeke · 06-01-2006, 07:29 PM

I now have some money burning a hole in my pocket. My budget does not allow for Accurate or Avet. Which do you guys think is best and why? Can I do with just 30's or do I need 50's. I would prefer to just buy 4- 30 size reels loaded with braid and a mono top shot. Tried a forum search with only one good reel post. Thanks!

Relentless33 · 06-01-2006, 11:10 PM

I think the amount of money for an Accurate is rediculous, great reels but rediculous prices. If you have the money for them and feel comfortable about it, go for it.
We have the TLD 50 and love them.
If you are wondering about a 30 wide Tiagra or a 50 wide go with a 50 TLD, somewhat in the middle.
The TLD 50's are great but those wide Tiagras are certainly better. Just make sure no one has a ring or watch on. :lol:
We had them ordered but it came in wrong and got weird on us. :cry: lol

Break Away · 06-02-2006, 11:17 AM

We fish 50 WLRS that is the Tiagra with the 80# drag system in it. We load them up with Power pro 80 and a top shot of Momoi mono. It gives you a lot of line and the reels are manageable.

My fishing partner had some Penn Internationals and had a drag lock up on him during a hard fight. The fish was lost and the reels went on e-bay the next day.

Look at the marine flea markets. You will see alot of Internationals but few if any Tiagras. That should tell you something.
Good luck!

Break Away · 06-02-2006, 11:19 AM

PS Chaos make great stand up rods. Call and speak to Brian or Luis.

quack quack · 06-05-2006, 08:04 AM

Foeget Chaos :shock: Call Andy at xtream rods in Lantana

Hydratherapy · 06-05-2006, 10:18 AM

Avet 50 or Tiagara 50....with these you cant go wrong.

Flatsfish B · 06-05-2006, 09:12 PM

Opinion: I think Tiagra's are much better built reels. Have smoother drags (kinda a fact) and have a much more comfotable feel

Fact: If for no other reason the tiagra clicker is loud as SH@##$$$ which is great when it only clicks 2 or 3 clicks when a fish is slashing a bait. I had the vs penn and the clicker is QUIET!!!! Remember when playing with the reels in the store after adding line quiets the clicker some!

Good luck!

Nick C · 06-09-2006, 10:48 PM

Avets have super loud clickers! I like the avets! But for the money, TLD 50's work great!

Relentless33 · 06-10-2006, 07:37 PM

Nick C: Im right with ya. 100% agree, a set of TLD's work more then perfect.

tunaman81 · 06-10-2006, 09:05 PM

I would definately go with the Penn V series over a tiagra. Penns are a lighter reel, which is a big plus in a stand up fight.

hannaman · 06-11-2006, 03:56 PM

I used to have TLD 50's but then I learned a long time ago. 80 wide Tiagra's for me

CaptainEd · 06-20-2006, 08:36 PM

Penn vsw's with jin kai

Excalibur · 06-21-2006, 05:31 PM

tiagra 80's and 50's wides for me

Litetackleredneck · 06-21-2006, 06:42 PM

Stand up, weight means nothing. You've got 15-20lbs of drag on the reel, the last thing in your mind is "damn this is a heavier reel".

Performance is all that matters. Tiagra out perform any reel on the market, besides Accurate. Better drags, better drag rang and curve, better ball bearings, stronger gears. Most important, which few people concider, the Tiagra has a thicker frame then any other reel. Its much stronger, and resist's flexing at high drag presures that can cause gear damage.

The choice between 50W, 50, or 30W is all personal. If you wanted a smaller reel, but also just as functional would be Tiagra 30W. Back it with 80lb powerpro, topshot with 100yd of 50 PINK ANDE. That reel has no problem handling that. Just my .02 cents

Excalibur · 06-21-2006, 07:45 PM

litetackle the only problem with ande is it breaks at its breaking point or alittle over sometimes u need heavier line but cant fit it so many ppl use sufix which breaks well over its breaking point which is a plus to the light tackle fishermen
but thats my 2 cents overal i agree with wat u said about tiagras

Litetackleredneck · 06-21-2006, 08:12 PM

not to turn this into a line hyjack, but you are correct, Ande is much closer to its stated line strength. Sufix and MoMoi do over-test alot. But the reason why i dont use either is just that reason, if I fish 20lb for swords (which i do), i want to say i caught a sword on 20lb, or very close to, not "well the line said it was 20lb, but it breaks at 45lbs." For light tackle guys thats were the fun is, IMO. Thats my posts for the next year

HiD · 06-22-2006, 01:00 AM

I have 2 NEW (out of box) Tiagra 80W -2 speed reels for sale. Spooled and ready FISH. Great price, save BIG.
If interested email me at agprotropicals@hotmail.com for more details.

HiD

just2fish · 06-22-2006, 08:05 AM

in no way an expert but i am selling 3 of my penn 50TW'S and buying 50 size 2 speed reel's. i dont really care if there penn's or shimano's as long as there w's, but what a difference low gear makes when your cranking. JM2C....

06-01-2006, 07:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
TeamTeke Grunt Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Key Colony Beach, FL Boat: All fish that swim. Occupation: Builder Posts: 2	Sword Newbie Question: Penn V Series or Shimano Tiagra I now have some money burning a hole in my pocket. My budget does not allow for Accurate or Avet. Which do you guys think is best and why? Can I do with just 30's or do I need 50's. I would prefer to just buy 4- 30 size reels loaded with braid and a mono top shot. Tried a forum search with only one good reel post. Thanks!

06-01-2006, 11:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
Relentless33 Grander Join Date: Apr 2006 Best Catch: 81" sword Posts: 2,921	I think the amount of money for an Accurate is rediculous, great reels but rediculous prices. If you have the money for them and feel comfortable about it, go for it. We have the TLD 50 and love them. If you are wondering about a 30 wide Tiagra or a 50 wide go with a 50 TLD, somewhat in the middle. The TLD 50's are great but those wide Tiagras are certainly better. Just make sure no one has a ring or watch on. :lol: We had them ordered but it came in wrong and got weird on us. :cry: lol __________________

06-02-2006, 11:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
Break Away Lines In Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 86	We fish 50 WLRS that is the Tiagra with the 80# drag system in it. We load them up with Power pro 80 and a top shot of Momoi mono. It gives you a lot of line and the reels are manageable. My fishing partner had some Penn Internationals and had a drag lock up on him during a hard fight. The fish was lost and the reels went on e-bay the next day. Look at the marine flea markets. You will see alot of Internationals but few if any Tiagras. That should tell you something. Good luck! __________________ Report your catch! It helps all of us lay our claim to some fish. SSC

06-02-2006, 11:19 AM	#4 (permalink)
Break Away Lines In Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 86	PS Chaos make great stand up rods. Call and speak to Brian or Luis. __________________ Report your catch! It helps all of us lay our claim to some fish. SSC

06-05-2006, 08:04 AM	#5 (permalink)
quack quack Old Salt Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: lake worth Best Catch: 25lb codfish 5 yrs old first hanger Posts: 4,456	Foeget Chaos :shock: Call Andy at xtream rods in Lantana __________________ Either we can be a part of the solution or we can be the victims of a decision.

06-05-2006, 10:18 AM	#6 (permalink)
Hydratherapy Lines In Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Port St. Lucie Boat: Cape Horn 36 Best Catch: 250 lb Swordfish; 90 lb black grpr Occupation: Surgeon Posts: 68	Avet 50 or Tiagara 50....with these you cant go wrong.

06-05-2006, 09:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
Flatsfish B Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boca Boat: 2300 Keywest Best Catch: 77'' pumpkin Occupation: Sales supervisor Posts: 684	Opinion: I think Tiagra's are much better built reels. Have smoother drags (kinda a fact) and have a much more comfotable feel Fact: If for no other reason the tiagra clicker is loud as SH@##$$$ which is great when it only clicks 2 or 3 clicks when a fish is slashing a bait. I had the vs penn and the clicker is QUIET!!!! Remember when playing with the reels in the store after adding line quiets the clicker some! Good luck! __________________

06-09-2006, 10:48 PM	#8 (permalink)
Nick C Grander Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 900-1600' of water Boat: 25' Bluewater(Rough C's) Best Catch: est. 120lb Tarpon on 16lb tippet(fight time was 12 min) Occupation: Squid rigger Posts: 2,117	Avets have super loud clickers! I like the avets! But for the money, TLD 50's work great! __________________ "Put your buoys out... we're comin' in HOT!"

06-10-2006, 07:37 PM	#9 (permalink)
Relentless33 Grander Join Date: Apr 2006 Best Catch: 81" sword Posts: 2,921	Nick C: Im right with ya. 100% agree, a set of TLD's work more then perfect. __________________

06-10-2006, 09:05 PM	#10 (permalink)
tunaman81 Hooked Up Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, Fl Occupation: student Posts: 353	I would definately go with the Penn V series over a tiagra. Penns are a lighter reel, which is a big plus in a stand up fight. __________________ There is nothing like fishing the deep blue offshore waters

06-11-2006, 03:56 PM	#11 (permalink)
hannaman Charter Captain Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida Boat: 32 Donzi w/ twins Best Catch: 300+ pound Swordfish club, still. Occupation: Charter Boat Captain Posts: 672	I used to have TLD 50's but then I learned a long time ago. 80 wide Tiagra's for me __________________ Captain Cary Hanna New Lattitude SportFishing Charters 954-907-0967 Florida Fishing Charters

06-20-2006, 08:36 PM	#12 (permalink)
CaptainEd Hooked Up Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dania beach Occupation: USCG Master Captain Posts: 263	Penn vsw's with jin kai

06-21-2006, 05:31 PM	#13 (permalink)
Excalibur Grunt Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fort Lauderdale Posts: 21	tiagra 80's and 50's wides for me __________________ Tight lines

06-21-2006, 06:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
Litetackleredneck Hooked Up Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Occupation: HS student, and employee at Kingsbury Tackle Posts: 115	Stand up, weight means nothing. You've got 15-20lbs of drag on the reel, the last thing in your mind is "damn this is a heavier reel". Performance is all that matters. Tiagra out perform any reel on the market, besides Accurate. Better drags, better drag rang and curve, better ball bearings, stronger gears. Most important, which few people concider, the Tiagra has a thicker frame then any other reel. Its much stronger, and resist's flexing at high drag presures that can cause gear damage. The choice between 50W, 50, or 30W is all personal. If you wanted a smaller reel, but also just as functional would be Tiagra 30W. Back it with 80lb powerpro, topshot with 100yd of 50 PINK ANDE. That reel has no problem handling that. Just my .02 cents

06-21-2006, 07:45 PM	#15 (permalink)
Excalibur Grunt Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fort Lauderdale Posts: 21	litetackle the only problem with ande is it breaks at its breaking point or alittle over sometimes u need heavier line but cant fit it so many ppl use sufix which breaks well over its breaking point which is a plus to the light tackle fishermen but thats my 2 cents overal i agree with wat u said about tiagras __________________ Tight lines

06-21-2006, 08:12 PM	#16 (permalink)
Litetackleredneck Hooked Up Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Occupation: HS student, and employee at Kingsbury Tackle Posts: 115	not to turn this into a line hyjack, but you are correct, Ande is much closer to its stated line strength. Sufix and MoMoi do over-test alot. But the reason why i dont use either is just that reason, if I fish 20lb for swords (which i do), i want to say i caught a sword on 20lb, or very close to, not "well the line said it was 20lb, but it breaks at 45lbs." For light tackle guys thats were the fun is, IMO. Thats my posts for the next year

06-22-2006, 01:00 AM	#17 (permalink)
HiD Grunt Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 15	I have 2 NEW (out of box) Tiagra 80W -2 speed reels for sale. Spooled and ready FISH. Great price, save BIG. If interested email me at agprotropicals@hotmail.com for more details. HiD

06-22-2006, 08:05 AM	#18 (permalink)
just2fish Hooked Up Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: haulover Boat: parker 2520, 225 yamaha 4 stroke Best Catch: latin female, brown hair, 5-4 120 lbs Occupation: window tinter Posts: 542	reels in no way an expert but i am selling 3 of my penn 50TW'S and buying 50 size 2 speed reel's. i dont really care if there penn's or shimano's as long as there w's, but what a difference low gear makes when your cranking. JM2C.... __________________ life's short... fish hard...

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