Shimano selling to LongLingers...

swordfish123 · 03-20-2006, 11:54 PM

Heard an interesting piece of information from a captain while i was over in the bahamas. We were talking about reels and I of course was backin my shimanos and he told me that shimano, while they 'support conservation etc' are actually selling gear to longliners! Is this true?? Anyone got any info?

Nightfighter · 03-21-2006, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by swordfish123

he told me that shimano, while they 'support conservation etc' are actually selling gear to longliners! Is this true?? Anyone got any info?

I'm a Penn man 100%, but I don't see anything wrong with Shamino selling to comercial fisherman.
LP is a huge longline supplier but I would not stop buying their mono or lights because of that. Most of the bait Co. sell to the commercial guys also.
What is the point you are trying to get at, I’m not sure I understand? Are you pissed at Shimano for selling to commercial fisherman?
Commercial use is the ultimate test of gear anyway.

Most of our gear and techniques are derived from the commercial guys. As QQ says below. :thumleft:

quack quack · 03-21-2006, 09:10 AM

Most of the equipment and tackle we use was commercial gear at one time and much of it still is.Every time you are on the 50 drifting baits with lights your just a mini LL with rods and reels.We are just a little more selective on what we keep.

To my knowledge even the mono crimp got its start as a commercial product.We have only slightly modified our fishing for swords from commercial techniques.If we had to do it the old fashion way we would only bait swords during the day.

Broadbill · 03-21-2006, 10:37 AM

What do you think they are selling them a bunch of 50 wides to run off their high fliers? WTF

PURPLE FEVER · 03-21-2006, 12:22 PM

Like nightfighter said. "whats your point?"

swordfish123 · 03-21-2006, 12:40 PM

the point i was TRYING to make was that APPARENTLY they were doing it behind closed doors, as in telling the public they are very against longlining and trying to be very supportive in conservation and then selling long line equipment and keeping it hush hush.

and no i dont think they are selling longliners 50Ws. thats not what i said

the reason i posted it on the forum was to see if other people were aware of this and to see if it is in fact accurate.

quack quack · 03-21-2006, 01:13 PM

They are not doing anything behind closed doors.Get a copy of the National Fisherman and you will see ads that feature there products.No cloak and dagger stuff but unless your a commercial fisherman why would you know about what they sell to commercial fleets.I do not mean to jump back at your post but like the others said it does not matter.They do support Rec fishing and conservation while still selling to commercial fishing interest.99% of tackle companies do the same thing.All the best electronics started on comm boats.I will name a few companies for you,Ande line,mustad,momoi,simrad,taylor buoys,LP,sampo,sargent,dexter Russel,alot of boot companies and who could fish on an open boat without Grundens :shock: 123 I like you and your posts so do not get mad at this.But it really is a non issue just be glad they do support conservation at all

Now if their is something they are doing that I do not know about and is a bad thing let me know and I will lead the angry mob myself :twisted: :lol:

Broadbill · 03-21-2006, 01:43 PM

My point was Shimano has nothing to offer a longline fisherman as far as product. Even if they did they are entitled to make a buck like everyone else.

quack quack · 03-21-2006, 01:54 PM

They sell gloves, pliers and some other stuff.

Broadbill-Pro · 03-21-2006, 02:15 PM

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GETTEM BOYZZZZZZZZZZ

Disco Lady · 03-22-2006, 12:27 PM

Conjo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shock: :shock awesom pic Broadbill.

Broadbill-Pro · 03-22-2006, 01:06 PM

notice the calcutta pole gaffs, throw all that fancy junk overboard!

quack quack · 03-22-2006, 01:40 PM

That picture brings back memories,the only thing missing is the 200lb mako impaled on the bill

Broadbill-Pro · 03-22-2006, 01:45 PM

we harpooned the mako a few seconds earlier, he's already on ice

quack quack · 03-22-2006, 01:56 PM

That statement is so true.I can still hear the yelling of theres a mako under him get the dart get the dart

03-20-2006, 11:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
swordfish123 Hooked Up Join Date: May 2004 Location: Oxford, Mississippi Boat: Whatever Hatteras lets me fish on Best Catch: ~250lb Blue Marlin- Marsh Harbour Occupation: Gulf Coast Hatteras Intern Posts: 318	Shimano selling to LongLingers... Heard an interesting piece of information from a captain while i was over in the bahamas. We were talking about reels and I of course was backin my shimanos and he told me that shimano, while they 'support conservation etc' are actually selling gear to longliners! Is this true?? Anyone got any info?

03-21-2006, 09:10 AM	#3 (permalink)
quack quack Old Salt Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: lake worth Best Catch: 25lb codfish 5 yrs old first hanger Posts: 5,004	Most of the equipment and tackle we use was commercial gear at one time and much of it still is.Every time you are on the 50 drifting baits with lights your just a mini LL with rods and reels.We are just a little more selective on what we keep. To my knowledge even the mono crimp got its start as a commercial product.We have only slightly modified our fishing for swords from commercial techniques.If we had to do it the old fashion way we would only bait swords during the day. __________________ Either we can be a part of the solution or we can be the victims of a decision.

03-21-2006, 12:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
PURPLE FEVER Hooked Up Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: pompano beach,fla. Posts: 436	Shimano Like nightfighter said. "whats your point?"

03-21-2006, 01:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
quack quack Old Salt Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: lake worth Best Catch: 25lb codfish 5 yrs old first hanger Posts: 5,004	They are not doing anything behind closed doors.Get a copy of the National Fisherman and you will see ads that feature there products.No cloak and dagger stuff but unless your a commercial fisherman why would you know about what they sell to commercial fleets.I do not mean to jump back at your post but like the others said it does not matter.They do support Rec fishing and conservation while still selling to commercial fishing interest.99% of tackle companies do the same thing.All the best electronics started on comm boats.I will name a few companies for you,Ande line,mustad,momoi,simrad,taylor buoys,LP,sampo,sargent,dexter Russel,alot of boot companies and who could fish on an open boat without Grundens :shock: 123 I like you and your posts so do not get mad at this.But it really is a non issue just be glad they do support conservation at all Now if their is something they are doing that I do not know about and is a bad thing let me know and I will lead the angry mob myself :twisted: :lol: __________________ Either we can be a part of the solution or we can be the victims of a decision.

03-21-2006, 01:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
quack quack Old Salt Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: lake worth Best Catch: 25lb codfish 5 yrs old first hanger Posts: 5,004	They sell gloves, pliers and some other stuff. __________________ Either we can be a part of the solution or we can be the victims of a decision.

03-21-2006, 10:37 AM	#4 (permalink)
Broadbill Hooked Up Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ft. Pierce, Fl Posts: 328	What do you think they are selling them a bunch of 50 wides to run off their high fliers? WTF

03-21-2006, 12:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
swordfish123 Hooked Up Join Date: May 2004 Location: Oxford, Mississippi Boat: Whatever Hatteras lets me fish on Best Catch: ~250lb Blue Marlin- Marsh Harbour Occupation: Gulf Coast Hatteras Intern Posts: 318	the point i was TRYING to make was that APPARENTLY they were doing it behind closed doors, as in telling the public they are very against longlining and trying to be very supportive in conservation and then selling long line equipment and keeping it hush hush. and no i dont think they are selling longliners 50Ws. thats not what i said the reason i posted it on the forum was to see if other people were aware of this and to see if it is in fact accurate.

03-21-2006, 01:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
Broadbill Hooked Up Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ft. Pierce, Fl Posts: 328	My point was Shimano has nothing to offer a longline fisherman as far as product. Even if they did they are entitled to make a buck like everyone else.

03-21-2006, 02:15 PM	#10 (permalink)
Broadbill-Pro Grander Join Date: Jan 2006 Best Catch: When I look at a Commercial Fishing Vessel I see 300 million Americans and you only see the Crew Posts: 1,408	:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: GETTEM BOYZZZZZZZZZZ

03-22-2006, 12:27 PM	#11 (permalink)
Disco Lady Grander Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Miami. FL, Boat: 37 Merritt Best Catch: (Blue Marlin)550 Lbs ST. Thomas Occupation: Charter Captain Sometimes... Posts: 3,495	Conjo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shock: :shock awesom pic Broadbill.

03-22-2006, 01:06 PM	#12 (permalink)
Broadbill-Pro Grander Join Date: Jan 2006 Best Catch: When I look at a Commercial Fishing Vessel I see 300 million Americans and you only see the Crew Posts: 1,408	notice the calcutta pole gaffs, throw all that fancy junk overboard!

03-22-2006, 01:40 PM	#13 (permalink)
quack quack Old Salt Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: lake worth Best Catch: 25lb codfish 5 yrs old first hanger Posts: 5,004	That picture brings back memories,the only thing missing is the 200lb mako impaled on the bill __________________ Either we can be a part of the solution or we can be the victims of a decision.

03-22-2006, 01:45 PM	#14 (permalink)
Broadbill-Pro Grander Join Date: Jan 2006 Best Catch: When I look at a Commercial Fishing Vessel I see 300 million Americans and you only see the Crew Posts: 1,408	we harpooned the mako a few seconds earlier, he's already on ice

03-22-2006, 01:56 PM	#15 (permalink)
quack quack Old Salt Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: lake worth Best Catch: 25lb codfish 5 yrs old first hanger Posts: 5,004	That statement is so true.I can still hear the yelling of theres a mako under him get the dart get the dart __________________ Either we can be a part of the solution or we can be the victims of a decision.

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