european swords

corvina · 10-08-2009, 07:19 AM

hi guys,have just joined this great forum, im english but live in the south west portugal. i am a full salt water addict, spend time casing tuna marlin and mahi in season, out of we have good sharkin. there appears to be great conditions hear for swords, but cant find any locals who fish for them, or any internet info.I am keen to try for one of these elusive beasts, but not sure if i would be wasting my time or not.(cos dont know the seasons)

Also, the area were i think the wsordas could be is often were the sharks are, do you have a problem eith sharks biting u off. also would you recomend chunking while drifting? any advice would be welcomed, and anyone with experience visiting this side of the pond i would be more than happy to take em out and fish thanks loads.

Nightfighter · 10-08-2009, 08:10 AM

If you have a problem with sharks, troll for them instead of drifting. Most sharks don't hit trolling lures. Mako's being the exception. You will also be able to cover more ground, and be able to find where they are feeding. Once you find them fish them how ever you like.

TOPPDAWG · 10-08-2009, 08:24 AM

What a salesman!

Captain Juan · 10-08-2009, 09:32 AM

Hey Corvina, you sure got some good wine and eats in Portugal.

Anyway, the trolling advice sounds good for your area. However, I would also look for sunning swords in your area as the cooler waters compel them to sun like they do in New England or Southern California. They can be coaxed to hit on the surface. Good luck.

Juan

Nightfighter · 10-08-2009, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TOPPDAWG

What a salesman!

Just trying to help the guy out, you have some better advice for him?

george84 · 10-08-2009, 06:32 PM

Here we fish depths...we don't have to be as concerned with water temp. We get them typically between 1000-2000ft. I would imagine that you typically get colder water around your area than we do here, and the fish in your neighborhood are very sensative to the currents. I would surf around the internet and look for surface temperature charts for your area. If you can find a hard edge where warm water meets cold, you fish on the warm side of that edge and you can probably find fish. I would bet you could find swords where you find other pelagics. For us, its as easy as finding the gulfstream and getting out to our depth.

broadonrod · 10-09-2009, 02:23 AM

We caught all the swordfish in texas now we are going to clean out FL. headed your way 2010. BOOBY TRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

corvina · 10-09-2009, 07:27 AM

thanks for the replies, but does anyone have any info on when the season may me, as ive heard that these fish migrate and i know its gonna be a struggle to find the first fish but if im in season then at least i have a slight chance, please keep posting as i need information. oh i have never found a good sat surface temp for this region, unlike the many u guys have over the pond, any info on that would also be appreciated thanks.

Nightfighter · 10-09-2009, 08:03 AM

Follow the bait. Go to the local fish markets and ask when they get fresh squid and or mackerel in large numbers. That's when the bait is in the area, and the swords will be there feeding on them.

OBAMA · 10-09-2009, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by corvina

thanks for the replies, but does anyone have any info on when the season may me, as ive heard that these fish migrate and i know its gonna be a struggle to find the first fish but if im in season then at least i have a slight chance, please keep posting as i need information. oh i have never found a good sat surface temp for this region, unlike the many u guys have over the pond, any info on that would also be appreciated thanks.

Corvina, pls send me an IM with your email and what port you fish out of. cheers, O

OBAMA · 10-09-2009, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfighter

Follow the bait. Go to the local fish markets and ask when they get fresh squid and or mackerel in large numbers. That's when the bait is in the area, and the swords will be there feeding on them.

That is a great idea!!

novomarine · 10-09-2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by OBAMA

That is a great idea!!

I don't know your port but if you near cascais, here is a good place to start..

corvina · 10-10-2009, 09:46 AM

thanks, but i am fishing out of the south west near portimao, which is marked on the map

tunaman81 · 10-11-2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by corvina

thanks, but i am fishing out of the south west near portimao, which is marked on the map

Canyons and seamounts with steep depth contours in 500+ feet of water are usually good areas to try. Looks like you have some very good structure to the south and southeast of where you are. Those canyons would be a good place to start.

corvina · 10-12-2009, 11:02 AM

yeah thats were i fish for other pelagics, but im not sure if the fish are there all year or if they have a season, what about u guys u have a season or r they always there.

tunaman81 · 10-12-2009, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by corvina

yeah thats were i fish for other pelagics, but im not sure if the fish are there all year or if they have a season, what about u guys u have a season or r they always there.

You can catch a swordfish any day of the year here, but the fishing is definitely better during certain times of the year (fall/winter).

Not sure about your area, but I would bet if other pelagics are around there is some bait and there will be swordfish there as well. Off the Northeast US when we canyon fish, there are plenty of swordfish caught at night during the tuna, mahi, and marlin season. Your season for tuna/marlin/mahi would be a good time to give it a shot. Just be careful with the weather when heading offshore at night.

Ron.38 Special · 10-16-2009, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by broadonrod

We caught all the swordfish in texas now we are going to clean out FL. headed your way 2010. BOOBY TRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

Funny thing, not many reports being filed from Texas, are you guys reporting your fish.

BTW, you are on the watch list for reporting compliance at NMFS. I have heard your boat name come up at least 4 times in the last month over reporting questions..
You could clear things up with a list of confirmation numbers

espada · 10-16-2009, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron.38 Special

Funny thing, not many reports being filed from Texas, are you guys reporting your fish.

BTW, you are on the watch list for reporting compliance at NMFS. I have heard your boat name come up at least 4 times in the last month over reporting questions..
You could clear things up with a list of confirmation numbers

Just wondering who put you in charge of reporting????

novomarine · 10-17-2009, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corvina

thanks, but i am fishing out of the south west near portimao, which is marked on the map

here you go.... btw... do you read portuguese? if so send me your email address...

Skip Smith · 10-20-2009, 11:14 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron.38 Special
Funny thing, not many reports being filed from Texas, are you guys reporting your fish.

BTW, you are on the watch list for reporting compliance at NMFS. I have heard your boat name come up at least 4 times in the last month over reporting questions..
You could clear things up with a list of confirmation numbers

Quote:

Originally Posted by espada

Just wondering who put you in charge of reporting????

Ron is on the NMFS Advisory Panel. At each meeting the NMFS enforcement gives their update. Ron was trying to give you a heads up and should have done it through a PM. It came out wrong this way.

He gives a lot of his time and money to represent the recreational anglers and was only trying to help.

OBAMA · 10-22-2009, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by novomarine

here you go.... btw... do you read portuguese? if so send me your email address...

This also looks like a good area to me. Historical records show
that the best season (and this may be weather related) is
usually spring into summer though they are caught there year
round. Maybe Vinnie can add to this. cheers, arthur

10-08-2009, 07:19 AM	#1 (permalink)
corvina Grunt Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: south west portugal Boat: 9 meter fairline Best Catch: 50 kg latino chick Occupation: carpenter Posts: 6	european swords hi guys,have just joined this great forum, im english but live in the south west portugal. i am a full salt water addict, spend time casing tuna marlin and mahi in season, out of we have good sharkin. there appears to be great conditions hear for swords, but cant find any locals who fish for them, or any internet info.I am keen to try for one of these elusive beasts, but not sure if i would be wasting my time or not.(cos dont know the seasons) Also, the area were i think the wsordas could be is often were the sharks are, do you have a problem eith sharks biting u off. also would you recomend chunking while drifting? any advice would be welcomed, and anyone with experience visiting this side of the pond i would be more than happy to take em out and fish thanks loads.

10-08-2009, 08:10 AM	#2 (permalink)
Nightfighter Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: South Florida Occupation: Wishin to be Fishin 24/7 Posts: 555	If you have a problem with sharks, troll for them instead of drifting. Most sharks don't hit trolling lures. Mako's being the exception. You will also be able to cover more ground, and be able to find where they are feeding. Once you find them fish them how ever you like. Last edited by Nightfighter; 10-08-2009 at 02:56 PM..

10-10-2009, 09:46 AM	#13 (permalink)
corvina Grunt Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: south west portugal Boat: 9 meter fairline Best Catch: 50 kg latino chick Occupation: carpenter Posts: 6	location thanks, but i am fishing out of the south west near portimao, which is marked on the map

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10-08-2009, 08:24 AM	#3 (permalink)
TOPPDAWG Hooked Up Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: THE RAC Boat: DUSKY- ANY Best Catch: 86 POUND HOO ON 60LB MONO LEADER CAT ISLAND 414# SWORDDOG Occupation: WORK IN TACKLE SHOP Posts: 152	What a salesman!

10-08-2009, 09:32 AM	#4 (permalink)
Captain Juan Grander Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hollywood, FL Boat: Contender 25 Best Catch: 63 lb. wahoo, 26 lb. mutton, 11 lb. peacock Occupation: Dir. of Communications Posts: 1,084	Hey Corvina, you sure got some good wine and eats in Portugal. Anyway, the trolling advice sounds good for your area. However, I would also look for sunning swords in your area as the cooler waters compel them to sun like they do in New England or Southern California. They can be coaxed to hit on the surface. Good luck. Juan

10-08-2009, 06:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
george84 Lines In Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 22	Here we fish depths...we don't have to be as concerned with water temp. We get them typically between 1000-2000ft. I would imagine that you typically get colder water around your area than we do here, and the fish in your neighborhood are very sensative to the currents. I would surf around the internet and look for surface temperature charts for your area. If you can find a hard edge where warm water meets cold, you fish on the warm side of that edge and you can probably find fish. I would bet you could find swords where you find other pelagics. For us, its as easy as finding the gulfstream and getting out to our depth.

10-09-2009, 02:23 AM	#7 (permalink)
broadonrod Lines In Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Boat: 52' Viking Express BoobyTrap Occupation: ROOFING/FISHING/FISHING Posts: 46	We caught all the swordfish in texas now we are going to clean out FL. headed your way 2010. BOOBY TRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

10-09-2009, 07:27 AM	#8 (permalink)
corvina Grunt Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: south west portugal Boat: 9 meter fairline Best Catch: 50 kg latino chick Occupation: carpenter Posts: 6	thanks for the replies, but does anyone have any info on when the season may me, as ive heard that these fish migrate and i know its gonna be a struggle to find the first fish but if im in season then at least i have a slight chance, please keep posting as i need information. oh i have never found a good sat surface temp for this region, unlike the many u guys have over the pond, any info on that would also be appreciated thanks.

10-09-2009, 08:03 AM	#9 (permalink)
Nightfighter Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: South Florida Occupation: Wishin to be Fishin 24/7 Posts: 555	Follow the bait. Go to the local fish markets and ask when they get fresh squid and or mackerel in large numbers. That's when the bait is in the area, and the swords will be there feeding on them.

10-12-2009, 11:02 AM	#15 (permalink)
corvina Grunt Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: south west portugal Boat: 9 meter fairline Best Catch: 50 kg latino chick Occupation: carpenter Posts: 6	yeah thats were i fish for other pelagics, but im not sure if the fish are there all year or if they have a season, what about u guys u have a season or r they always there.

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