MP 3000 question - Page 3

Another Grand · 09-24-2009, 07:50 AM

I like that Dolphin Tiagra 80 combo

Anybody fished it?

Nick C · 09-24-2009, 10:11 AM

buy it and i'll let you know

Nick C · 09-24-2009, 10:18 AM

I like both the Diawa and LP, I think still if it came down to it, i would get the diawa. I know a lot of people who have them and have caught fish them and have been relatively issue free. After fishing the LP the past few trips I thought for sure it was much stronger, but after doing a few tests at the house, i found that the diawa is a beast! It is a bit slower though. And yes I use the hand crank on it a lot.

Attaboy · 09-24-2009, 10:47 AM

Doesn't pretty count anymore? The MP is way prettier than the LP.

Broadbill-Pro · 09-24-2009, 11:10 AM

I use the hand crank also, but by far the best feature of the Daiwa is the variable power control. The torque is the same at low speed or high speed, for those stubborn fish just set the speed at about 50%, check the drag so that you can stop the reel by gripping the braid (including fish load) and let her eat.

WhItEoUt 23 · 09-24-2009, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by novomarine

Button pusher!!!!

LMAFO

REAPER · 09-24-2009, 11:56 AM

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I have 2 proto-types that came off the VP of Daiwa's desk 3 years ago and have not had a problem with any of the things you mention. I use them every weekend. I would assume that a 2009 model would have less issues.

Not putting down the L/P, but they have had far more issues than the Daiwa. I know of one reel that has made more trips to L/P than the ocean. L/P has the drive gear figured out, but they still have some catching up to do on the drag and spools. Those Guy's are on the ball, everyday that goes by the reel is improved. When the LS1200-2 comes out you Guy's are going to weep..

BroadBill-Pro, I have just been in a unique position to be able to deal with all of these manufacturer's for the life of these reels and see and hear about all the defects directly from them. I know handfuls of people who have never had a problem with there MP. But i know More that have.. also every time LP does new runs of reels they get better. Diawa hasn't changed anything since it has been released.. LP has improved on all aspects of their reels through out the generations of the s-1200. They have both had drag issues but LP seemed to have cleared most of them up. I just hope that this information helps the Gentleman who is doing his homework on them before he purchases!!

Uncle Buck · 09-24-2009, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Broadbill-Pro

...When the LS1200-2 comes out you Guy's are going to weep.

Is that gonna be the gas-powered version?

REAPER · 09-24-2009, 12:07 PM

that it the top secret one man.....

Nick C · 09-24-2009, 02:46 PM

Marcel, Honestly from what it sounds like, the LP is the "better" reel, but I still can't seem to bring myself to buy one over the Diawa. Really, you need to fish both and see which one fits you better. In my case, I like the way the Diawa fishes. Just like Vinny had said, the lever is key and it's not jerky like when you come on and off the button on the lp.

bajakian · 09-24-2009, 02:58 PM

Nick-just dont come off the button!!!

REAPER · 09-24-2009, 03:15 PM

Nick.. I have fished Both reels and i've caught on both of them.. from small to big fish. Everyone has their own opinions and preferences. I can only speak about what i've seen through my own experiences and my customers experiences. Then share it with everyone else..

Nick C · 09-24-2009, 03:18 PM

Good Point. Either way I feel i can play the fish with the Diawa. Last few fish I caught involved a lot of hand cranking to while moving the rod around the boat and hooking the fish. A nice feature IMO. Like I said, I don't think you can go wrong with either, both have their flaws.... It's personally preference.

Nick C · 09-24-2009, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by REAPER

Then share it with everyone else..

No no it was all good info. I was just sayin

REAPER · 09-24-2009, 03:29 PM

i gotcha.. i never move the rod.. it stays in a designated swivel rod holder... so i would never see that problem.. but i definitely understand the reasoning for the handle in your situation. when i was in the keys we caught one 231 on the MP. My brother fought it stand up in a harness for like 2 hours. he tried to do it manually but was only able to find his groove with the electric. especially after the first 45 minutes.. if you used the other reels he wouldnt have been able to fight it stand up.

Nick C · 09-24-2009, 03:57 PM

You are right. But then again not many people fish like we/I do..... we make things interesting and do it a little more in depth.

REAPER · 09-24-2009, 04:19 PM

Very true Nick.....

novomarine · 09-24-2009, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relentless33

...being a pornstar, how do you have any left?

that's easy.... different chicks all the time..... hard is to do the same ole lady over and over......

Disco Lady · 09-24-2009, 05:16 PM

:coÑo!!!!!!!!!

Marauder1 · 09-24-2009, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bajakian

Nick-just dont come off the button!!!

You ever fought a fish on rod and reel and never stopped reeling from start to finish?

bajakian · 09-24-2009, 05:42 PM

Ive never deep dropped and never stopped "reeeling" once I started to come up.

Marauder1 · 09-24-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bajakian

Ive never deep dropped and never stopped "reeeling" once I started to come up.

IMO comparing deep dropping for swordies and deep dropping for queens, yelloweyes, tiles, mystics etc is not nearly the same thing.

Uncle Buck · 09-24-2009, 05:55 PM

What about when ya reach the weight? ...or when big Bertha decides to pull 1000ft of line off the reel? You don't keep the power ON while that's happening, do ya?

Marauder1 · 09-24-2009, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Uncle Buck

What about when ya reach the weight? ...or when big Bertha decides to pull 1000ft of line off the reel? You don't keep the power ON while that's happening, do ya?

You shouldnt be, like I said no differnet than reeling from start to finish on rod and reel.

Uncle Buck · 09-24-2009, 06:11 PM

oops... I was replying to Richard's comment. You snuck in ahead of me Coop.

bajakian · 09-24-2009, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Buck

What about when ya reach the weight? ...or when big Bertha decides to pull 1000ft of line off the reel? You don't keep the power ON while that's happening, do ya?

No I dont keep the reel moving then, but I have only had one fish dump the reel and that was a tail hooked big eye thresher. Most of the other fish come and dont put up much fight till they get to the surface.

DORADOsteve · 09-24-2009, 07:56 PM

Guess its "Different Strokes" for different folks when it comes down to MP300 vs. LP s-1200

Had to toss in the visual . . . .

novomarine · 09-24-2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DORADOsteve

Guess its "Different Strokes" for different folks when it comes down to MP300 vs. LP s-1200

Had to toss in the visual . . . .

last week I fished with electric reels for the first time. we used both daiwa 3000 and LP 1200... I'm no button pusher... but I don't believe those reels are in the same category... the LP was so much better.... was not even funny, twice as fast, stronger, better counter... in a whole different class.....

Just say no to button pushers...

Another Grand · 09-24-2009, 10:06 PM

Marcel -

Do you guys carry the dolphin attachment?

REAPER · 09-25-2009, 11:32 AM

I typically don't stock them but if you need one its not a problem at all!!

09-24-2009, 10:11 AM	#62 (permalink)
Nick C Grander Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Delray Beach Best Catch: .5lb Brim on 17lb test Occupation: Charter Boat Captain. Posts: 2,389	buy it and i'll let you know __________________ "Put your buoys out... we're comin' in HOT!"

09-24-2009, 10:18 AM	#63 (permalink)
Nick C Grander Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Delray Beach Best Catch: .5lb Brim on 17lb test Occupation: Charter Boat Captain. Posts: 2,389	I like both the Diawa and LP, I think still if it came down to it, i would get the diawa. I know a lot of people who have them and have caught fish them and have been relatively issue free. After fishing the LP the past few trips I thought for sure it was much stronger, but after doing a few tests at the house, i found that the diawa is a beast! It is a bit slower though. And yes I use the hand crank on it a lot. __________________ "Put your buoys out... we're comin' in HOT!"

09-24-2009, 10:47 AM	#64 (permalink)
Attaboy Hooked Up Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Pompano Beach Boat: Hydra Sports 33' Best Catch: Define caught? Occupation: retired Posts: 137	Pretty Doesn't pretty count anymore? The MP is way prettier than the LP. __________________ "This barnacle brain won't bend" Jimmy Buffet

09-24-2009, 12:07 PM	#69 (permalink)
REAPER Lines In Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Boca Raton Boat: 27' Contender Best Catch: 60lb Striped bass, 315lb Big Eye, 130lb yellowfin,352lb swordfish, 900lb Blue Marlin Occupation: manager at Stalker Outfitters Posts: 65	that it the top secret one man..... __________________

09-24-2009, 02:46 PM	#70 (permalink)
Nick C Grander Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Delray Beach Best Catch: .5lb Brim on 17lb test Occupation: Charter Boat Captain. Posts: 2,389	Marcel, Honestly from what it sounds like, the LP is the "better" reel, but I still can't seem to bring myself to buy one over the Diawa. Really, you need to fish both and see which one fits you better. In my case, I like the way the Diawa fishes. Just like Vinny had said, the lever is key and it's not jerky like when you come on and off the button on the lp. __________________ "Put your buoys out... we're comin' in HOT!"

09-24-2009, 07:50 AM	#61 (permalink)
Another Grand Grander Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,277	I like that Dolphin Tiagra 80 combo Anybody fished it?

09-24-2009, 11:10 AM	#65 (permalink)
Broadbill-Pro Grander Join Date: Jan 2006 Best Catch: When I look at a Commercial Fishing Vessel I see 300 million Americans and you only see the Crew Posts: 1,728	I use the hand crank also, but by far the best feature of the Daiwa is the variable power control. The torque is the same at low speed or high speed, for those stubborn fish just set the speed at about 50%, check the drag so that you can stop the reel by gripping the braid (including fish load) and let her eat.

09-24-2009, 02:58 PM	#71 (permalink)
bajakian Grander Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ocean Ridge, Fl Boat: Venture 34 Best Catch: 300 lb Yellow fin Tuna, Blue Marlin 240 lbs on 30 lb test, 423 lb Swordfish Occupation: MD Posts: 2,071	Nick-just dont come off the button!!! __________________ A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer. I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too.

09-24-2009, 03:15 PM	#72 (permalink)
REAPER Lines In Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Boca Raton Boat: 27' Contender Best Catch: 60lb Striped bass, 315lb Big Eye, 130lb yellowfin,352lb swordfish, 900lb Blue Marlin Occupation: manager at Stalker Outfitters Posts: 65	Nick.. I have fished Both reels and i've caught on both of them.. from small to big fish. Everyone has their own opinions and preferences. I can only speak about what i've seen through my own experiences and my customers experiences. Then share it with everyone else.. __________________

09-24-2009, 03:18 PM	#73 (permalink)
Nick C Grander Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Delray Beach Best Catch: .5lb Brim on 17lb test Occupation: Charter Boat Captain. Posts: 2,389	Good Point. Either way I feel i can play the fish with the Diawa. Last few fish I caught involved a lot of hand cranking to while moving the rod around the boat and hooking the fish. A nice feature IMO. Like I said, I don't think you can go wrong with either, both have their flaws.... It's personally preference. __________________ "Put your buoys out... we're comin' in HOT!"

09-24-2009, 03:29 PM	#75 (permalink)
REAPER Lines In Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Boca Raton Boat: 27' Contender Best Catch: 60lb Striped bass, 315lb Big Eye, 130lb yellowfin,352lb swordfish, 900lb Blue Marlin Occupation: manager at Stalker Outfitters Posts: 65	i gotcha.. i never move the rod.. it stays in a designated swivel rod holder... so i would never see that problem.. but i definitely understand the reasoning for the handle in your situation. when i was in the keys we caught one 231 on the MP. My brother fought it stand up in a harness for like 2 hours. he tried to do it manually but was only able to find his groove with the electric. especially after the first 45 minutes.. if you used the other reels he wouldnt have been able to fight it stand up. __________________

09-24-2009, 03:57 PM	#76 (permalink)
Nick C Grander Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Delray Beach Best Catch: .5lb Brim on 17lb test Occupation: Charter Boat Captain. Posts: 2,389	You are right. But then again not many people fish like we/I do..... we make things interesting and do it a little more in depth. __________________ "Put your buoys out... we're comin' in HOT!"

09-24-2009, 04:19 PM	#77 (permalink)
REAPER Lines In Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Boca Raton Boat: 27' Contender Best Catch: 60lb Striped bass, 315lb Big Eye, 130lb yellowfin,352lb swordfish, 900lb Blue Marlin Occupation: manager at Stalker Outfitters Posts: 65	Very true Nick..... __________________

09-24-2009, 05:16 PM	#79 (permalink)
Disco Lady Grander Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Miami, FL Boat: 37 Merritt Best Catch: (Blue Marlin)550 Lbs ST. Thomas (North Drop) Occupation: Charter Captain and Pimp! at night. Posts: 5,715	:coÑo!!!!!!!!! __________________ Check out my running web site: http://www.biggamebaits.com

09-24-2009, 05:42 PM	#81 (permalink)
bajakian Grander Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ocean Ridge, Fl Boat: Venture 34 Best Catch: 300 lb Yellow fin Tuna, Blue Marlin 240 lbs on 30 lb test, 423 lb Swordfish Occupation: MD Posts: 2,071	Ive never deep dropped and never stopped "reeeling" once I started to come up. __________________ A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer. I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too.

09-24-2009, 05:55 PM	#83 (permalink)
Uncle Buck Grander Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Boat in Boynton / Home In Boca Boat: Sailfish 218CC Best Catch: First fish ever = 3ft sand tiger on kite string Occupation: Graphic Designer Posts: 3,061	What about when ya reach the weight? ...or when big Bertha decides to pull 1000ft of line off the reel? You don't keep the power ON while that's happening, do ya?

09-24-2009, 06:11 PM	#85 (permalink)
Uncle Buck Grander Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Boat in Boynton / Home In Boca Boat: Sailfish 218CC Best Catch: First fish ever = 3ft sand tiger on kite string Occupation: Graphic Designer Posts: 3,061	oops... I was replying to Richard's comment. You snuck in ahead of me Coop.

09-24-2009, 07:56 PM	#87 (permalink)
DORADOsteve Hooked Up Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Singer Island, FL Boat: TOPAZ 24 Posts: 716	Guess its "Different Strokes" for different folks when it comes down to MP300 vs. LP s-1200 Had to toss in the visual . . . .

09-24-2009, 10:06 PM	#89 (permalink)
Another Grand Grander Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,277	Marcel - Do you guys carry the dolphin attachment?

09-25-2009, 11:32 AM	#90 (permalink)
REAPER Lines In Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Boca Raton Boat: 27' Contender Best Catch: 60lb Striped bass, 315lb Big Eye, 130lb yellowfin,352lb swordfish, 900lb Blue Marlin Occupation: manager at Stalker Outfitters Posts: 65	I typically don't stock them but if you need one its not a problem at all!! __________________

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