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WhItEoUt 23 · 01-14-2009, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by balistikb

Ok another question, how much weight avarage on night time sword fishing?

32 ounce bank weight most of the time if the current slows down to 2 knots i would go with a 20 or 24 ounce bank...

Disco Lady · 01-14-2009, 03:51 PM

TTesterman · 01-14-2009, 04:23 PM

thats why people invented Rum!!! Iriesoul did ya get religion on the snaps??/ those cayman Creatures catch some good fish down there they ain't all that dense ... lol .. how many have you caught by the way? I personally don't count that well myself so I don't keep up...

ameristrat · 01-14-2009, 04:45 PM

As far as weight's go, I use heavier weights the deeper the lines go. With normal current, I use 16 oz. for 100 foot depths or less, 24 oz from 100-250, and 32 oz for tip rods and rods deeper than 250.

Disco Lady · 01-14-2009, 04:58 PM

QUOTE=Disco Lady;103827]COÑO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I to don't like snaps!! but i have never had a problem with them. And i have hade my share of open ones..just by the best dam!! one you could get.

DL,

[/QUOTE]

TTesterman · 01-14-2009, 06:52 PM

I like the meduim nickle thick crimps and I use a lighter... a good oven mit for the crimpers is a good 'by' to keep them salt-water-resistant... and to soften the blow to the deck if'n ya drop them on a fancy boat...!

CaptKen · 01-14-2009, 07:59 PM

This could be your swordfish of a lifetime, enough said ? crimp, only 1 more min.

Disco Lady · 01-14-2009, 08:17 PM

COÑO!!!!!! Capt.Ken i agree with you. I have hade many snaps look like that but they never open or lost a fish to one. Cappy is that the snap of that Monster!! you caught.

DL,

TTesterman · 01-14-2009, 08:37 PM

I would cut off the bent up piece and she if it still has any magic left... nice fish...gold star on the rigging though he even has the glow bead and his crimpers look to be set right.. the tubeing is a plus...

Disco Lady · 01-14-2009, 08:46 PM

Yeah! that rigging looks A+ and the crimping is well adjusted for sure. That is a lucky! swivel, my friend. Oh! by the way i lied about not having any open swivels, have had a few but did not loose fish to them guess i been lucky.

DL,

iriesoul · 01-14-2009, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptKen

This could be your swordfish of a lifetime, enough said ? crimp, only 1 more min.

Thanks captain Ken I rest my case. these guys were thinking I was nuts for saying a $5 sampo swivle can be opened while fighting a fish on the bottom. I try to give a piece of advise and people think I am crazy! Great pic for the thread!

Tackle Engineer · 01-14-2009, 11:28 PM

Steve If i remember correctly I think Larrys Snap opened up too. Good you were quick that night. With a snap anything is possible and it is foolish to think that the wire will not fatigue and actually pull apart . Most thin wire in high production is not domestic . Who knows if they are buying the whole snap from overseas anyway. I do know they make the swivel here in the US. not sure of the rest. Crimps are the way to go .

WhItEoUt 23 · 01-15-2009, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TTesterman

I would cut off the bent up piece and she if it still has any magic left... nice fish...gold star on the rigging though he even has the glow bead and his crimpers look to be set right.. the tubeing is a plus...

Why would you take the chance of a life time of losing that monster to a snap swivel that you tried to FIX when you could just crimp or put a new swivel on crimps only take a few seconds more and there much more realible just my 2 cents..

TTesterman · 01-15-2009, 06:54 AM

some Creatures don't read ... and Irie you are crazy... it is funny I was talking to a good friend of mine yesterday and he was telling me they had a good fish on one night and they believe the thing got hooked good but tail wrapped and she ended up parting 600lb .. a 7-8lb bonita was the bait.. when I fished with Rob Creagan a long time ago we had a big sampo pull apart on a nice fish.. sampo sent us a whole card of swivels and he started cutting the potentialy bendable parts off .. I rig my stuff up to try not to loose.. takes years to learn the simple stuff ...online or a meeting 30 minutes but that still don't teach ya everything.. best to have fun smile and do everything right... and I think DL can get ya a lucky rabbits foot upon request..

iriesoul · 01-15-2009, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tackle Engineer

Steve If i remember correctly I think Larrys Snap opened up too. Good you were quick that night. With a snap anything is possible and it is foolish to think that the wire will not fatigue and actually pull apart . Most thin wire in high production is not domestic . Who knows if they are buying the whole snap from overseas anyway. I do know they make the swivel here in the US. not sure of the rest. Crimps are the way to go .

You were there and witnessed it first hand. We had a daytimer up I slapped him on the deck then we all looked for the leader and realised the fish was no longer connected and the swivle had opened............ That was definately not crew error!

tt thanks but i dont need any rabbits foot....

CaptKen · 01-15-2009, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disco Lady

COÑO!!!!!! Capt.Ken i agree with you. I have hade many snaps look like that but they never open or lost a fish to one. Cappy is that the snap of that Monster!! you caught.

DL,

It was a monster Mako at night, That is what convinced me to crimp from that point foward. It never opened, and we caught and released him, we would have needed a bigger boat to bring that one home.

WhItEoUt 23 · 01-15-2009, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TTesterman

I would cut off the bent up piece and she if it still has any magic left... nice fish...gold star on the rigging though he even has the glow bead and his crimpers look to be set right.. the tubeing is a plus...

This CREATURE reads 1st sentence kinda sounds like you would attemp to reuse it that thing dont got no more MAGIC in it............

Disco Lady · 01-15-2009, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TTesterman

some Creatures don't read ... and Irie you are crazy... it is funny I was talking to a good friend of mine yesterday and he was telling me they had a good fish on one night and they believe the thing got hooked good but tail wrapped and she ended up parting 600lb .. a 7-8lb bonita was the bait.. when I fished with Rob Creagan a long time ago we had a big sampo pull apart on a nice fish.. sampo sent us a whole card of swivels and he started cutting the potentialy bendable parts off .. I rig my stuff up to try not to loose.. takes years to learn the simple stuff ...online or a meeting 30 minutes but that still don't teach ya everything.. best to have fun smile and do everything right... and I think DL can get ya a lucky rabbits foot upon request..

How about a Black Chicken!! Steve,

works better than a rabbits foot.

Ñoooooooo!!!

TTesterman · 01-16-2009, 06:50 AM

you think the shrimp run will be good ...and you catch a black majic chicken... crazy Cubans....

gtrfred · 01-16-2009, 02:09 PM

when you guys are using the swivels instead of the snap swivel, are you using some kind of chafe gear, snugging the mono down tight to the swivel, or just crimping it looser?

Tuna Devil · 01-16-2009, 05:40 PM

CRIMP.

No Biminis, wind the the hook to the tip. Be careful with the sampo swivels that look like barrels (not barrel swivels) We have snapped two in half. Now we do not use them. The Sampo 250 lb barrel swivels will go right through the big guides. Less connections less worries.

For what it is worth.

Disco Lady · 01-16-2009, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TTesterman

you think the shrimp run will be good ...and you catch a black majic chicken... crazy Cubans....

Ñoooooooooo!!!!

the shrimp run should be awesome! tonight. Don't forget that black chicken....

DL,

Tuna Devil · 01-16-2009, 09:29 PM

If the shrimp swim we need to know.

I have a Black Chicken.

I mean a Black Dog.

Disco Lady · 01-16-2009, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuna Devil

If the shrimp swim we need to know.

I have a Black Chicken.

I mean a Black Dog.

Fin! is not a chicken.....but I'm sure he will do the job Dave.

DL,

01-14-2009, 04:23 PM	#33 (permalink)
TTesterman Hooked Up Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 773	I agree Disco.. the good snaps are tough... thats why people invented Rum!!! Iriesoul did ya get religion on the snaps??/ those cayman Creatures catch some good fish down there they ain't all that dense ... lol .. how many have you caught by the way? I personally don't count that well myself so I don't keep up...

01-14-2009, 04:45 PM	#34 (permalink)
ameristrat Hooked Up Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Delray Beach Boat: Grady White Sailfish 28 Best Catch: 1 pound Goggle Eye Occupation: A Student at Wake Forest University Posts: 902	As far as weight's go, I use heavier weights the deeper the lines go. With normal current, I use 16 oz. for 100 foot depths or less, 24 oz from 100-250, and 32 oz for tip rods and rods deeper than 250. __________________ "I've gotta live life real good because when it's over and I'm dead, I'm screwed. God is gonna kick my ass."

01-14-2009, 04:58 PM	#35 (permalink)
Disco Lady Grander Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Miami, FL Boat: 37 Merritt Best Catch: (Blue Marlin)550 Lbs ST. Thomas (North Drop) Occupation: Charter Captain and Pimp! at night. Posts: 5,715	QUOTE=Disco Lady;103827]COÑO!!!!!!!!!!!!! I to don't like snaps!! but i have never had a problem with them. And i have hade my share of open ones..just by the best dam!! one you could get. DL,[/QUOTE]

01-14-2009, 06:52 PM	#36 (permalink)
TTesterman Hooked Up Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 773	best to by good stuff... I like the meduim nickle thick crimps and I use a lighter... a good oven mit for the crimpers is a good 'by' to keep them salt-water-resistant... and to soften the blow to the deck if'n ya drop them on a fancy boat...!

01-14-2009, 07:59 PM	#37 (permalink)
CaptKen Hooked Up Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sunrise Fla. Posts: 923	This could be your swordfish of a lifetime, enough said ? crimp, only 1 more min. __________________

01-14-2009, 03:51 PM	#32 (permalink)
Disco Lady Grander Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Miami, FL Boat: 37 Merritt Best Catch: (Blue Marlin)550 Lbs ST. Thomas (North Drop) Occupation: Charter Captain and Pimp! at night. Posts: 5,715

01-14-2009, 08:17 PM	#38 (permalink)
Disco Lady Grander Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Miami, FL Boat: 37 Merritt Best Catch: (Blue Marlin)550 Lbs ST. Thomas (North Drop) Occupation: Charter Captain and Pimp! at night. Posts: 5,715	COÑO!!!!!! Capt.Ken i agree with you. I have hade many snaps look like that but they never open or lost a fish to one. Cappy is that the snap of that Monster!! you caught. DL,

01-14-2009, 08:37 PM	#39 (permalink)
TTesterman Hooked Up Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 773	DL.. I think that is a lucky swivel.... I would cut off the bent up piece and she if it still has any magic left... nice fish...gold star on the rigging though he even has the glow bead and his crimpers look to be set right.. the tubeing is a plus...

01-14-2009, 08:46 PM	#40 (permalink)
Disco Lady Grander Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Miami, FL Boat: 37 Merritt Best Catch: (Blue Marlin)550 Lbs ST. Thomas (North Drop) Occupation: Charter Captain and Pimp! at night. Posts: 5,715	Agree TTesterman........ Yeah! that rigging looks A+ and the crimping is well adjusted for sure. That is a lucky! swivel, my friend. Oh! by the way i lied about not having any open swivels, have had a few but did not loose fish to them guess i been lucky. DL, Last edited by Disco Lady; 01-14-2009 at 08:48 PM..

01-14-2009, 11:28 PM	#42 (permalink)
Tackle Engineer Hooked Up Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hollywood Fl Boat: Tackle Engineer, Dusky 26, 2XVolvoTAMD41 turbos Best Catch: Blonde Gymnast wife 115# Occupation: Fearless Leader /ceo Posts: 355	Steve If i remember correctly I think Larrys Snap opened up too. Good you were quick that night. With a snap anything is possible and it is foolish to think that the wire will not fatigue and actually pull apart . Most thin wire in high production is not domestic . Who knows if they are buying the whole snap from overseas anyway. I do know they make the swivel here in the US. not sure of the rest. Crimps are the way to go .

01-15-2009, 06:54 AM	#44 (permalink)
TTesterman Hooked Up Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 773	Ha! I never said to re-use the bent up piece... some Creatures don't read ... and Irie you are crazy... it is funny I was talking to a good friend of mine yesterday and he was telling me they had a good fish on one night and they believe the thing got hooked good but tail wrapped and she ended up parting 600lb .. a 7-8lb bonita was the bait.. when I fished with Rob Creagan a long time ago we had a big sampo pull apart on a nice fish.. sampo sent us a whole card of swivels and he started cutting the potentialy bendable parts off .. I rig my stuff up to try not to loose.. takes years to learn the simple stuff ...online or a meeting 30 minutes but that still don't teach ya everything.. best to have fun smile and do everything right... and I think DL can get ya a lucky rabbits foot upon request..

01-16-2009, 06:50 AM	#49 (permalink)
TTesterman Hooked Up Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 773	DL... we used to catch Head-less chickens pushing nets.. you think the shrimp run will be good ...and you catch a black majic chicken... crazy Cubans....

01-16-2009, 02:09 PM	#50 (permalink)
gtrfred Lines In Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ft Lauderdale Boat: Sea Vee 25 Best Catch: 250 lb yellowfin tuna Occupation: horrible Posts: 30	when you guys are using the swivels instead of the snap swivel, are you using some kind of chafe gear, snugging the mono down tight to the swivel, or just crimping it looser?

01-16-2009, 05:40 PM	#51 (permalink)
Tuna Devil Grander Join Date: Nov 2005 Occupation: Pirate Posts: 2,191	CRIMP. No Biminis, wind the the hook to the tip. Be careful with the sampo swivels that look like barrels (not barrel swivels) We have snapped two in half. Now we do not use them. The Sampo 250 lb barrel swivels will go right through the big guides. Less connections less worries. For what it is worth. __________________ What do you mean I'm not kind? I'm just not your kind.

01-16-2009, 09:29 PM	#53 (permalink)
Tuna Devil Grander Join Date: Nov 2005 Occupation: Pirate Posts: 2,191	If the shrimp swim we need to know. I have a Black Chicken. I mean a Black Dog. __________________ What do you mean I'm not kind? I'm just not your kind.

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