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Old 09-24-2007, 03:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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But the sudden day time phenomena really throws a loop in the Swordfish Tournament of yesterday. Really going to be difficult to enforce the rules now.......especially how to enforce a lines-in time for night time tournaments, or prove that a fish was caught during the hours of any tournament.......

What do you think the response will be? Mandatory lie detector tests? Boat checks? Bimini Starts? Visual confirmations?

Or just leave it the way its been.......and trust in the honesty policy with thousands of $'s on the line

Things that make you go hmmmmmmm

Any thoughts Curveball right?
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Old 09-24-2007, 03:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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But the sudden day time phenomena really throws a loop in the Swordfish Tournament of yesterday. Really going to be difficult to enforce the rules now.......especially how to enforce a lines-in time for night time tournaments, or prove that a fish was caught during the hours of any tournament.......

What do you think the response will be? Mandatory lie detector tests? Boat checks? Bimini Starts? Visual confirmations?

Or just leave it the way its been.......and trust in the honesty policy with thousands of $'s on the line

Things that make you go hmmmmmmm

Any thoughts Curveball right?
Interesting point. IMHO like most fads, this too will pass.
If not, the swords can look forward to LOTS of pressure 24/7 Day / Nite
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Old 09-24-2007, 03:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Interesting point. IMHO like most fads, this too will pass.
If not, the swords can look forward to LOTS of pressure 24/7 Day / Nite
How about a 24 hour tournament?

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Old 09-24-2007, 03:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
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How about a 24 hour tournament?

Suffer, Suffer, Reel Hard.
certainly not a bad idea...
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Old 09-24-2007, 03:41 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I am just throwing it out there.....for general thought. Be interesting to see how its resolved.
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Old 09-24-2007, 03:41 PM   #6 (permalink)
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How about a 24 hour tournament?

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Old 09-24-2007, 03:41 PM   #7 (permalink)
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except for the Fact that you'd have to mandate all manual to level the field. Not too fair to have guys crankin, competing w/ guys button fishin.
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Old 09-24-2007, 03:51 PM   #8 (permalink)
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A 24 hour tournament......that is fine with me.

But.... even though I think that the "Lucky Sperm Special Olympics" was a great tournament and the day time thing is cool and will lead to alot better understanding of the fish.

At what point is an electric reel allowed in a tournament and when is it not? Personally, I think it takes an element of fairness out of the tournament. Again, I have no problem using them to harvest the fish, but I would be pissed if I lost in a 24 hour tournament when my fish was "caught" on Rod and Reel and the other fish was "harvested" on electric.

Just food for thought.....anybody agree or am I alone in this boat?

Not trying to start trouble, just pointing out that some of these tournament rules are going to need to be drastically altered, the whole format in some cases.
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except for the Fact that you'd have to mandate all manual to level the field. Not too fair to have guys crankin, competing w/ guys button fishin.
Woops....didnt see this post, but thats what I was getting at
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Old 09-24-2007, 03:57 PM   #10 (permalink)
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To clarify so I dont get myself in trouble....

I dont see a problem if everybody is allowed to use electric reels in a day tournament, because in all honesty, in some ways a deep dropping sword tournament may require more skill, more time on the water, etc. and the real "tournament" in essence, is the spot, the rig and good boat driving.

Conversely, in a rod and reel tournament there are difference elements that come into play......

Kinda hard to legitimately combine the two and keep everythin fair.
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Old 09-24-2007, 04:04 PM   #11 (permalink)
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As far as the lines-in thing... well, that's already based on honesty. Who's there making sure a team's spread is not already out at lines-in? We usually don't bother setting-up that early anyway, since lines-in is usually way before sunset. We're usually still running.
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No electric reels, what the difference if it's caught on the bottom?
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Old 09-24-2007, 04:10 PM   #13 (permalink)
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No electric reels, what the difference if it's caught on the bottom?
I agree.

Buck, the fact of the matter is that only a few people were doing it. Now everybody and there mother is aware of whats going on. Honesty policy is cool when you dont know how to cheat, once you do......opens the floodgates of litigation
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Well, then it comes down to impartial observers on every boat.
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Old 09-24-2007, 04:21 PM   #15 (permalink)
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And thats what I am getting at.....

Just when I perfected the hose up the ass, they go an throw this at me totally out of the blue......or the deep
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Old 09-24-2007, 04:56 PM   #17 (permalink)
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"Just when I perfected the hose up the ass, they go an throw this at me totally out of the blue......or the deep"



I've been trying to come up with a way to make plugs heavier. I'm just having trouble figuring out how to stuff lead in the spine.
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Old 09-24-2007, 05:15 PM   #18 (permalink)
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It's one of the reasons I don't fish tournaments. Once you start dangling thousands of dollars out there, without observers and polygraphs, you leave the door wide open to cheating - or at least bending the rules.

I know of one tournament where the winner was suspected of having a buddy boat fish Bahamian waters and transferred the fish to him. Hell, during one of Drew's tournaments, we had a fish that was 70 pounds bigger than the winner. How would anyone have known if I called a buddy I knew was in the tourny on a sat phone and offer to give him that fish?

The answer is you all know me well enough to know I wouldn't do that but without a polygraph or an observer, it could have been done quite easily.

By the way, this is nothing new. Old timers will remember the old Bobbie Belle saga.
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Old 09-24-2007, 05:17 PM   #19 (permalink)
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The sailfish tournaments are using video cameras this winter.....
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Old 09-24-2007, 05:38 PM   #20 (permalink)
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i think it will be cool to have the tournaments have lines in around 3 or 4. I'd def need to learn this daytime stuff than
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