Flashing Squid

Certifiable · 08-16-2007, 11:50 AM

I was watching the TV last week and saw a documentarty on the Discovery Channel (or National Geographic ?) about the Humboldt Squids off Baja Mexico. The story was that they were accused of being "man eaters" because they grow very large and are very aggressive.
The underwater filming showed the squids attacking fish and other squids, pretty cool to see. But, the thing that caught my eye was that the squids would start "flashing" when they got excited. We have all seen them change colors for camoflauge, but these guys were actually lighting up and glowing in a regular time interval (say 1/2 to 1 second intervals).

The big question: I have heard of putting a light stick inside the squid to illuminate it. Has anyone placed one of those small, water activated white light flashers inside a squid. If so, is it bright enough to lite up the squid ?
I would guess the squid would get excited and start flashing when he sees a sword bearing down on him.
Or, is this flashing exclusive to the "Humboldt Squids" off Baja ?

Input would be appreciated.

quack quack · 08-16-2007, 12:27 PM

Even if flasher is close to squid it will illuminate the squid with its flashes.

JupiterSailfish · 08-16-2007, 12:43 PM

I've been wanting to try it with a red flasher since that seems to be their color.

Square Grouper · 08-16-2007, 02:51 PM

Ray, I saw that as well, was a cool show.

In regards to flashing lights, like QQ said, if the light (LP, SM, etc) is close enough, it's going to illuminate that squid. You should see some of the stuff we send down with our squids.

I say if the idea pops in your head, you try it.

DIRTYFOOT2 · 08-16-2007, 03:06 PM

Have seen them on night dives and they are impressive. Similiar to a neon light they pulsate, and the bands of color run back and forth along the body.

Flatsfish B · 08-16-2007, 03:16 PM

Has anyone seen my disco seamaster light?

Yes putting the duralight flasher inside does work, it is trick to get it in there but I have it down, I use Kingfish wire, #3

GENERALturtle. · 08-16-2007, 03:41 PM

LP's are good enough.

Uncle Buck · 08-16-2007, 03:44 PM

Nope. Lights inside the squid DO NOT work.

CAPTINMITCH · 08-16-2007, 03:54 PM

How about in a salami strip?

Y'all overthink this sometimes. They're pigs. If they see it, they'll eat it.

Nick C · 08-16-2007, 04:56 PM

I don't buy that one anymore, Mitch. I've had the chance to fish a couple sick boats this summer that had depth finders able to mark whatever swims under the boat. Many times when we marked a blob at 200, not a second later we were tight on the tip down that depth. But also many times we've marked the same thing and not got touched. One night back in June we had 4 fish swim through the light and right by the flat line. Not one even looked at it.

Beerman · 08-16-2007, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick C

One night back in June we had 4 fish swim through the light and right by the flat line. Not one even looked at it.

Those 4 just wernt hungry for squids...they wanted a hot dog

Nick C · 08-16-2007, 05:33 PM

Must have been! Or maybe a Banana?

Beerman · 08-16-2007, 05:40 PM

Maybe...who knows

CAPTINMITCH · 08-17-2007, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick C

I don't buy that one anymore, Mitch. I've had the chance to fish a couple sick boats this summer that had depth finders able to mark whatever swims under the boat. Many times when we marked a blob at 200, not a second later we were tight on the tip down that depth.

Woohoo, found the hungry one.

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Originally Posted by Nick C

But also many times we've marked the same thing and not got touched.

Woohoo, found the not hungry one. Or perhaps, something else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick C

One night back in June we had 4 fish swim through the light and right by the flat line. Not one even looked at it.

Woohoo, found a whole bunch of them that weren't hungry. Or they knew you were on the boat and wanted to see if they could top your old 0-47 streak.

JoeP58 · 08-17-2007, 08:46 AM

Attended Bouncer's Smiths seminar aweek or so ago, also went to his seminar last year, the big difference i noted from one year to the next was the use of flashing (i think its called) Mity lights in place of the glow stick at the snap swivel. Went out Wed night, all four rods with flashers. Had all four fish on the shallow tip rod, two of the four rods had red flashers. They didn't touch the jug rod with a red flasher. Go figure!. I certaintly believe they'll eat anything when their hungry, we seem to over complicate the game, but that's half the fun.
Tight Lines,
Fishin Magician

Uncle Buck · 08-17-2007, 09:18 AM

Just remember... for many many years before the Electrolume was developed, longliners only used green cyalume sticks, and just jammed a hook into a squid. That's about as simple as it gets.

snooknreds2 · 08-17-2007, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Buck

Nope. Lights inside the squid DO NOT work.

CAPTINMITCH · 08-17-2007, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Buck

Just remember... for many many years before the Electrolume was developed, longliners only used green cyalume sticks, and just jammed a hook into a squid. That's about as simple as it gets.

Seemed to catch a few fish as well.

Sopla2o · 08-17-2007, 10:05 AM

Maybe were just complicating the matter... "If it ain't broke don't fix it...." Why not just a squid, a light and weight...

Certifiable · 08-17-2007, 10:18 AM

Why don't we just run around barefoot and naked and live in mud huts.... that has been working for the last 5,000 years ?

Not trying to offend anyone, "if it aint broke, dont fix it" is acceptable for most people. As for me, I am always looking for a way to do something better, why settle for good when you can try for best ?
That is how this great country was founded and became the greatest power in the world.

I want to have the technology to go to the moon, and drive fast cars, and....be more consistent in catching more and larger fish !!

08-16-2007, 11:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
Certifiable Hooked Up Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Vero Beach Boat: 36' Contender Best Catch: 200# Blue Marlin/1200#Black Marlin Occupation: Engineer Posts: 354	Flashing Squid I was watching the TV last week and saw a documentarty on the Discovery Channel (or National Geographic ?) about the Humboldt Squids off Baja Mexico. The story was that they were accused of being "man eaters" because they grow very large and are very aggressive. The underwater filming showed the squids attacking fish and other squids, pretty cool to see. But, the thing that caught my eye was that the squids would start "flashing" when they got excited. We have all seen them change colors for camoflauge, but these guys were actually lighting up and glowing in a regular time interval (say 1/2 to 1 second intervals). The big question: I have heard of putting a light stick inside the squid to illuminate it. Has anyone placed one of those small, water activated white light flashers inside a squid. If so, is it bright enough to lite up the squid ? I would guess the squid would get excited and start flashing when he sees a sword bearing down on him. Or, is this flashing exclusive to the "Humboldt Squids" off Baja ? Input would be appreciated. __________________ Sig 9mm - I would rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6

08-16-2007, 12:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
quack quack Old Salt Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: lake worth Best Catch: 25lb codfish 5 yrs old first hanger Posts: 5,004	Even if flasher is close to squid it will illuminate the squid with its flashes. __________________ Either we can be a part of the solution or we can be the victims of a decision.

08-16-2007, 12:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
JupiterSailfish Hooked Up Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Jupiter, FL Best Catch: 170lb Swordy - Tag Teamed it Posts: 585	I've been wanting to try it with a red flasher since that seems to be their color. __________________ Finally, it's dark out!

08-16-2007, 02:51 PM	#4 (permalink)
Square Grouper Hooked Up Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Vero Beach, FL Best Catch: A Killer Buzz Posts: 131	Ray, I saw that as well, was a cool show. In regards to flashing lights, like QQ said, if the light (LP, SM, etc) is close enough, it's going to illuminate that squid. You should see some of the stuff we send down with our squids. I say if the idea pops in your head, you try it. __________________ "Man Up" is not just a phrase.....It's a way of life.

08-16-2007, 03:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
DIRTYFOOT2 Grander Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Lake Worth fl Best Catch: 53lb Black Grouper Occupation: Gunnel Washer Posts: 2,061	Have seen them on night dives and they are impressive. Similiar to a neon light they pulsate, and the bands of color run back and forth along the body. __________________ right thumb on the spool, left hand flips the lever

08-16-2007, 03:16 PM	#6 (permalink)
Flatsfish B Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boca Boat: 2300 Keywest Best Catch: 77'' pumpkin Occupation: Sales supervisor Posts: 682	Has anyone seen my disco seamaster light? Yes putting the duralight flasher inside does work, it is trick to get it in there but I have it down, I use Kingfish wire, #3 __________________

08-16-2007, 03:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
GENERALturtle. Hooked Up Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: on da 50 Best Catch: your mom Occupation: boat lettering and sign Posts: 547	LP's are good enough. __________________

08-16-2007, 03:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
Uncle Buck Grander Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Boat in Boynton / Home In Boca Boat: Sailfish 218CC Best Catch: 350+ Mako Occupation: Graphic Designer Posts: 2,030	Nope. Lights inside the squid DO NOT work. __________________ Help Me Promote FishClings! - Get Your Samples Here --> FishClings-Promo

08-16-2007, 03:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
CAPTINMITCH Hooked Up Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 399	How about in a salami strip? Y'all overthink this sometimes. They're pigs. If they see it, they'll eat it.

08-16-2007, 04:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
Nick C Grander Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 900-1600' of water Boat: 25' Bluewater(Rough C's) Best Catch: est. 120lb Tarpon on 16lb tippet(fight time was 12 min) Occupation: Squid rigger Posts: 2,221	I don't buy that one anymore, Mitch. I've had the chance to fish a couple sick boats this summer that had depth finders able to mark whatever swims under the boat. Many times when we marked a blob at 200, not a second later we were tight on the tip down that depth. But also many times we've marked the same thing and not got touched. One night back in June we had 4 fish swim through the light and right by the flat line. Not one even looked at it. __________________ "Put your buoys out... we're comin' in HOT!"

08-16-2007, 05:33 PM	#12 (permalink)
Nick C Grander Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 900-1600' of water Boat: 25' Bluewater(Rough C's) Best Catch: est. 120lb Tarpon on 16lb tippet(fight time was 12 min) Occupation: Squid rigger Posts: 2,221	Must have been! Or maybe a Banana? __________________ "Put your buoys out... we're comin' in HOT!"

08-16-2007, 05:40 PM	#13 (permalink)
Beerman Hooked Up Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Stuart, FL Posts: 627	Maybe...who knows __________________ Word of Wisdom: Many a problem will solve itself, if we forget it and go FISHING!!!!

08-17-2007, 08:46 AM	#15 (permalink)
JoeP58 Lines In Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Delray Beach Boat: 33 Palmetto - twin 300 Zuks Best Catch: 724lb BF, 200lb BM, 61lb Wahoo, 27lb Golden Tile, Occupation: Risk Consultant Posts: 30	Flashers Attended Bouncer's Smiths seminar aweek or so ago, also went to his seminar last year, the big difference i noted from one year to the next was the use of flashing (i think its called) Mity lights in place of the glow stick at the snap swivel. Went out Wed night, all four rods with flashers. Had all four fish on the shallow tip rod, two of the four rods had red flashers. They didn't touch the jug rod with a red flasher. Go figure!. I certaintly believe they'll eat anything when their hungry, we seem to over complicate the game, but that's half the fun. Tight Lines, Fishin Magician __________________ Joe P Fishin Magician

08-17-2007, 09:18 AM	#16 (permalink)
Uncle Buck Grander Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Boat in Boynton / Home In Boca Boat: Sailfish 218CC Best Catch: 350+ Mako Occupation: Graphic Designer Posts: 2,030	Just remember... for many many years before the Electrolume was developed, longliners only used green cyalume sticks, and just jammed a hook into a squid. That's about as simple as it gets. __________________ Help Me Promote FishClings! - Get Your Samples Here --> FishClings-Promo

08-17-2007, 10:05 AM	#19 (permalink)
Sopla2o Hooked Up Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hometead, Florida Boat: 2007 Dusky 256CC, Twin 175 Verado's Best Catch: Still Searching for the Elusive Swordfish Occupation: Legal Consultant Posts: 398	Maybe were just complicating the matter... "If it ain't broke don't fix it...." Why not just a squid, a light and weight...

08-17-2007, 10:18 AM	#20 (permalink)
Certifiable Hooked Up Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Vero Beach Boat: 36' Contender Best Catch: 200# Blue Marlin/1200#Black Marlin Occupation: Engineer Posts: 354	Why don't we just run around barefoot and naked and live in mud huts.... that has been working for the last 5,000 years ? Not trying to offend anyone, "if it aint broke, dont fix it" is acceptable for most people. As for me, I am always looking for a way to do something better, why settle for good when you can try for best ? That is how this great country was founded and became the greatest power in the world. I want to have the technology to go to the moon, and drive fast cars, and....be more consistent in catching more and larger fish !! __________________ Sig 9mm - I would rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6

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