Broadbill

BushpigNZ · 08-04-2004, 10:04 PM

I have been looking at the size of the broadbill you guys catch. Why dont you tag and release them. They are so small.

You guys need to get down here to New Zealand and catch some real fish

J.P Freeman · 08-04-2004, 10:33 PM

welcome to the forum. thats all i am going to say.

BushpigNZ · 08-04-2004, 10:36 PM

Thanks, for your welcome. I understand that these may be only the only fish available to you and that the commercial fleets have all but wiped out the large fish. But how long will you even have a fishery when you take such small fish ?

LHPfish · 08-04-2004, 11:22 PM

We're pretty conservation minded down here. We take what we need, we have little effect on the population. There's nothing like swordin.

FinalPoint · 08-05-2004, 07:45 AM

That's why everybody observes limits. They are set with conservation in mind.

Litetackleredneck · 08-05-2004, 10:09 AM

I tend to agree with BPZN, a swords only mature enough to breed when he hits 150 or so. The limits are some what aceptable. But some people go out 4-5 nights a week ad kill 1-2 a night. Within the limits, but whatharm is it doing. I know the old agrument that we can never do what the longliners did, but we arnt helping. I think a good step for swordfish recovery would be increasing the size limit. To 70 inches or so. We need to let the pups go, even if they are "legal."

hannaman · 08-05-2004, 11:04 AM

Bushpig, Show us some pictures of the ones YOU catch in New Zealand. Back in May we had one caught at 415 pounds. Numerous other fish are caught weighing over 135 pounds. Any fish over 60 inches is worth keeping. I'm sure you guys are pulling bigger fish in the summertime but I'm sure you guys have your share of small fish too. As far as guys who are going out 4-5 times a week, I haven't heard of anyone pulling 1-2 fish a night. If that was happening we wouldn't be having the number problems that we do. It's more like, on the favorable moon phases during the hot bite months that we are able to get our 3 per boat limit, at least as of right now and things are changing for the better as we speak right now. Wait till the upcoming months and see the size fish we will be pulling up, I'm sure you will be amazed.

AkaUrDad · 08-05-2004, 01:56 PM

Bushwick, If the guys down here had access to the waters of New Zeland, we would be breaking records all the time. There are no fishermen in the world like the ones In S. Fla :twisted:

J.P Freeman · 08-05-2004, 02:00 PM

AMEN.

Mike · 08-05-2004, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AkaUrDad

Bushwick, If the guys down here had access to the waters of New Zeland, we would be breaking records all the time. There are no fishermen in the world like the ones In S. Fla :twisted:

Ain't that the truth! hb

BushpigNZ · 08-05-2004, 02:56 PM

Have a look at the Billfish down under thread posted by Lethal. Thats what we call Broadbill. Nobody brings a fish under 300 pounds in for weighing. they would be laughed at if they did

most of our fish (at least 90%) would go over 600 pounds

Mike · 08-05-2004, 03:08 PM

I'm not sure what its like where you are, but our small fleet gets tight on several fish every night for the most part and it sure it fun!... we have our slumps, but A LOT of releasing is being done.

We have breeding grounds out here and as a result we get small fish.. but wait until the winter comes..BIgger fish come through pretty nice.

What kind of tackle are you fighting 600lb plus fish on?

Rather than argue about fish size and who catches what, I would like to hear how you guys fish for them... Hook size, baits, drag, etc.

0123

BushpigNZ · 08-05-2004, 03:43 PM

Most boats use 37kg. I think some may have moved up to 60 to try and shorten the fight time. The problem we have with long fights is sharks. The markos are huge in the broadbill grounds and from what I hear arnt that worried about the tuna bombs any more.

Out of interest. What is the minimum size fish you guys can keep ?

BushpigNZ · 08-05-2004, 04:07 PM

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BushpigNZ · 08-05-2004, 04:12 PM

The above are what we call fish. Not those little tooth picks

Kezza · 08-05-2004, 04:13 PM

"one of these this is not like the other...."

Swine ya muppet......Blue marlin??...

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08-04-2004, 10:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
BushpigNZ Grunt Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 16	Broadbill I have been looking at the size of the broadbill you guys catch. Why dont you tag and release them. They are so small. You guys need to get down here to New Zealand and catch some real fish

08-04-2004, 10:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
J.P Freeman Hooked Up Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FLA Boat: 19 ft. Century Best Catch: 400 lbs. club Occupation: USCG Posts: 289	welcome to the forum. thats all i am going to say. __________________ If it ain't shartruse, it ain't no use.

08-05-2004, 02:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
J.P Freeman Hooked Up Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FLA Boat: 19 ft. Century Best Catch: 400 lbs. club Occupation: USCG Posts: 289	AMEN. __________________ If it ain't shartruse, it ain't no use.

08-05-2004, 03:08 PM	#12 (permalink)
Mike Grander Join Date: May 2004 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Boat: Coming Soon! Best Catch: 250lb Swordfish Posts: 1,330	I'm not sure what its like where you are, but our small fleet gets tight on several fish every night for the most part and it sure it fun!... we have our slumps, but A LOT of releasing is being done. We have breeding grounds out here and as a result we get small fish.. but wait until the winter comes..BIgger fish come through pretty nice. What kind of tackle are you fighting 600lb plus fish on? Rather than argue about fish size and who catches what, I would like to hear how you guys fish for them... Hook size, baits, drag, etc. 0123 __________________ Fishing Reports

08-05-2004, 04:13 PM	#20 (permalink)
Kezza Grunt Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New Zealand Posts: 5	"one of these this is not like the other...." Swine ya muppet......Blue marlin??... ops: __________________ screamin' ratchets Kezza (www.fishing.net.nz)

08-04-2004, 10:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
BushpigNZ Grunt Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 16	Thanks, for your welcome. I understand that these may be only the only fish available to you and that the commercial fleets have all but wiped out the large fish. But how long will you even have a fishery when you take such small fish ?

08-04-2004, 11:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
LHPfish Hooked Up Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 185	We're pretty conservation minded down here. We take what we need, we have little effect on the population. There's nothing like swordin.

08-05-2004, 07:45 AM	#5 (permalink)
FinalPoint Hooked Up Join Date: May 2004 Location: Lighthouse Pt., FL Boat: Contender 36 Fisharound Best Catch: 1183 lb. Swordfish Occupation: School Posts: 895	That's why everybody observes limits. They are set with conservation in mind.

08-05-2004, 10:09 AM	#6 (permalink)
Litetackleredneck Hooked Up Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Occupation: HS student, and employee at Kingsbury Tackle Posts: 115	I tend to agree with BPZN, a swords only mature enough to breed when he hits 150 or so. The limits are some what aceptable. But some people go out 4-5 nights a week ad kill 1-2 a night. Within the limits, but whatharm is it doing. I know the old agrument that we can never do what the longliners did, but we arnt helping. I think a good step for swordfish recovery would be increasing the size limit. To 70 inches or so. We need to let the pups go, even if they are "legal."

08-05-2004, 11:04 AM	#7 (permalink)
hannaman Charter Captain Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida Boat: 32 Donzi w/ twins Best Catch: 300+ pound Swordfish club, still. Occupation: Charter Boat Captain Posts: 672	Bushpig, Show us some pictures of the ones YOU catch in New Zealand. Back in May we had one caught at 415 pounds. Numerous other fish are caught weighing over 135 pounds. Any fish over 60 inches is worth keeping. I'm sure you guys are pulling bigger fish in the summertime but I'm sure you guys have your share of small fish too. As far as guys who are going out 4-5 times a week, I haven't heard of anyone pulling 1-2 fish a night. If that was happening we wouldn't be having the number problems that we do. It's more like, on the favorable moon phases during the hot bite months that we are able to get our 3 per boat limit, at least as of right now and things are changing for the better as we speak right now. Wait till the upcoming months and see the size fish we will be pulling up, I'm sure you will be amazed.

08-05-2004, 01:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
AkaUrDad Grunt Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Dania Beach Boat: Pimping Swordy Occupation: Pimp Posts: 28	Bushwick, If the guys down here had access to the waters of New Zeland, we would be breaking records all the time. There are no fishermen in the world like the ones In S. Fla :twisted:

08-05-2004, 02:56 PM	#11 (permalink)
BushpigNZ Grunt Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 16	Have a look at the Billfish down under thread posted by Lethal. Thats what we call Broadbill. Nobody brings a fish under 300 pounds in for weighing. they would be laughed at if they did most of our fish (at least 90%) would go over 600 pounds

08-05-2004, 03:43 PM	#13 (permalink)
BushpigNZ Grunt Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 16	Most boats use 37kg. I think some may have moved up to 60 to try and shorten the fight time. The problem we have with long fights is sharks. The markos are huge in the broadbill grounds and from what I hear arnt that worried about the tuna bombs any more. Out of interest. What is the minimum size fish you guys can keep ?

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