TBF Predictions for 2008 - It is not a Billfish and it is the Day droppers fault..

[quack quack]

Gee lets see does any one have a boat I can go on and an electric I can use?

[CaptKen]

Live Report Just in from a non puter guy:
He drifted all day from daylight till 2:30 in a 5 knt current and not 1 bite.

[quack quack]

ok so that proves it no day time fish are being caught.

[Another Grand]

[quack quack]

[Tuna Devil]

867-5309. Hello? Jenny?

[CaptKen]

Originally Posted by quack quack

Gee lets see does any one have a boat I can go on and an electric I can use?

I do, I may go Sat, You wanna go ?

[quack quack]

Originally Posted by CaptKen

I do, I may go Sat, You wanna go ?

Should I bring my life jacket?and tell the wife I will be late for dinner?

No thank you but I would still fish with you.I am going Fri night so Sat is out.I also have family obligations on Sat But thank you for the invite.

[The BEAST]

QQ,

Question?... You are all for reaching the quota, an additinal 2.2 million pounds from 47" to mega mama breeder, yet you are concerned about recreational daytimers catching some breeders on electric reels.

Exactly how did that reasoning evolve?

[Fishalways]

I am going to attempt to get an answer to this question.

There is this idea going around that equal access to the swordfish harvest is a right and cannot be restricted.
Can someone attempt to explain why Snook, Redfish, Deer, Elk, Alligator, Moose, Largemouth bass, Smallmouth bass, and countless other species are restricted from commercial exploitation and Swordfish can't be?

No one has an absolute right to have access to any natural resource and I, for one, have absolutly no problem cutting swords out of the commercial market.

It has been said by many that the LL swordfishermen will simply go on to another species and that sword is not a big money maker for them to begin with.

I'm sorry, I am not going to shed a tear if someone is put out of business in ANY profession to protect a natural resource.

And, I will say it again. If we really were interested in protecting swords we would push to, at the very least, impliment the fair competition clauses in the treaties or at best, withdraw from them completely and prohibit imports.

Now, someone tell me why there HAS to be commercial access to swords.

[CaptKen]

Think about this:
Suppose they do outlaw eletrics for recs, I would be willing in bet that the commericals will still be allowed to use thier eletrics and bandits for swords.
The rec guy will be shot in the foot once again.

[RiskTaker]

Kenny,

I love your new Avatar: it is so You. What's your code? OK, you can pass. Meanwhile, back on the grapevine: Now, what was that about that swordfish... ?

While you're at the job that is.

While on the vessel, just smooth precision. Homey boy has another life.

Was that a Nuclear Power plant operator position?

[Disco Lady]

Bandit !Ñooooooooooo my kind of fishing.

[Broadbill-Pro]

Originally Posted by Fishalways

Can someone attempt to explain why Snook, Redfish, Deer, Elk, Alligator, Moose, Largemouth bass, Smallmouth bass, and countless other species are restricted from commercial exploitation and Swordfish can't be?

ALL of the species you mentioned have the advantage of being counted to some extent, thus the science is for the most part accurate.

The status of highly migratory species is not a perfect science, NMFS could not handle the lawsuits that developed from closing a fishery deemed to be at 99.9% MSY. How could they not allow Americans access to a species that swims into hooks of other Nations a week later?

To restrict a species from the public, you better have a darn good argument that the species is in jeopardy. I am not certain, but I assume that somewhere in history all the species above were in danger of exploitation from commercial and recreational harvest, that is why they are restricted now. Swordfish has never been close to being endangered globally.

[Disco Lady]

COÑO!!!!!!!!

[Broadbill-Pro]

Coño is a common Spanish idiomatic expression (vulgar). Its actual meaning differs according to region or country, but in Spain and several Latin American countries it is understood as slang for the female genitalia, the vulva.

Coño has become a feature of speech to express emphasis or to stress a wide variety of emotions, actually drifting from any of its original sexual references, in a situation similar to that of "****" in English. The actual context, speaker's sex, pronunciation or tone defines the kind of emotion conveyed. An interlocutor may insert coño as an interjection in a sentence whenever this desire arises, even though it may be regarded as quite offensive if not carefully used. It originated from the Dominican Republic, where it is widely used. It is also used frequently in the film Scarface, where most of the characters are Cuban. Several examples:

fear: low tone, short vowels, high-pitched: ¡Coño, coño! ¡Esta abeja me va a picar! (This bee will sting me!)
anger: high tone, short vowels: ¡Coño, ya te dije que no lo hicieras! (Hey, I already told you not to do that!)
surprise: low tone, dragging the "o": Coooño... ¿Están saliendo juntos? (Oh, really? Are they going out?)
joy: dragging vowels, low-pitched: ¡Cooñoo! ¡Nuestro equipo ganó! (Thank goodness! Our team won!)
As noted before, this is not a formal feature and is limited to slang and intimate speech.

Other examples of its varied use are:

¡Coño, qué bueno/a está! (Damn he/she looks good!)
Yo no sé un coño de eso (I don't know **** about that)
¿Dónde coño estás? (Where the **** are you?)
¡Coñazo! (the strongest expression to "****!")
¡Qué coñazo! (In Spain: Damn boring!)
In the Philippines, coño (Tagalog: konyo) refers to a wealthy Anglophone person raised and/or living in a gated community, though the term originally referred to insular Spaniards, regardless of socioeconomic status. The variant of English konyos informally speak among themselves is termed Konyo English or simply Konyo.

In Venezuela, the word is generally used in the expressions Coño de Madre (Lit. "mother****er") and El coño de tu madre (Lit. "Your mom's ****"). The former an adjective and the latter an extremely offensive insult. It is also common as a diminutive, coñito, in reference to unruly or nasty children.

In Cuba and in the Canary Islands, the word Ñooo is similar to coño, but it is not offensive. It can mean Darn or Wow. For example:

Ñoooo! Que barato! (Wow! How cheap!)
Ñoo! Hay un examen mañana. (Darn, there's a test tomorrow.)
But also in Cuba and for Cuban-Americans in Miami, if you say "Me cago en el coño de tu madre." (Lit. I shit on your mother's vagina.), it is like saying the supreme North American insult of "**** You". You'll make no friends this way.

In the United States of America, the word coño means vagina and can be termed as an insult or simple description of the female genitalia. Amongst Cuban-Americans in Miami, coño is a fairly mild expletive, equivalent to "damn" or "damnit." It is used frequently in the film Scarface, which is set in Miami and where several of the main characters are Cuban.

SO WHICH IS IT???

[Disco Lady]

BBP COÑO!!!!!!!!! very well said Capt. In my terms COÑO means WOW! DAM! NICE! FINE!and F@#$K depending in the situation.

[tunaman81]

Originally Posted by CaptKen

Think about this:
Suppose they do outlaw eletrics for recs, I would be willing in bet that the commericals will still be allowed to use thier eletrics and bandits for swords.
The rec guy will be shot in the foot once again.

Commercial guys are not allowed to use bandits OR electrics for swordfish.

[CaptKen]

Originally Posted by tunaman81

Commercial guys are not allowed to use bandits OR electrics for swordfish.

another expert
WRONG !

[quack quack]

Jim again like I said to Ken.If the science says it is bad for the overall health of the fishery then I would be against it.What I mean by that is if they found out all the big bottom swords were in the act of spawning and or some what local fish then it would not be good to harvest those fish.At this time they do not think that is true but Justin and some others are tagging some day fish and doing the research as we speak.Like Vinnie said we can not watch these fish 24/7 and a lot of what we know is guess work using the best science we can.

All these species can be monitored and much more is known about them" then all the pelagic fish put together.Snook, Redfish, Deer, Elk, Alligator, Moose, Largemouth bass, Smallmouth bass.Behind every limit or restriction is science of some sort to back it up.So like I said 30 posts ago.

If the science says catching big daytime fish is bad for the fishery then I would be against it.