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Old 05-25-2006, 11:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default More Dildoes! 14 & 1/2 ft Hammerhead caught 1,262 pound

Killed for the jaws, some pics and "science" I guess the one's caught on long line vessels and in shrimp nets aren't enough. At least this one wasn't just photographed then burried in a field after it was killed for pictures like the 950lb hammerhead caught in the same spot the same way a few weeks ago. They missed one 20' or over the same day. This stupidity has got to stop.

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Old 05-25-2006, 11:58 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Was that old Hitler?
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That's the first thing I though. Hitler is atleast 20' thou.
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Aweful! People don't realize the purpose sharks carry in the ocean... Catching this sucker fine... but release it..


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I still think a Tarpon fisherman in the pass is going to fall over and get eaten very soon.Not a reason to kill the shark but it will happen.I don't like seeing it dead like that and it is even on fox news web site.But I can not judge some one for something I have done in the past.I have killed hundreds of sharks for sport and commercial so let he without sin cast the first stone So if you have never killed any sharks before you can start bashing now.If you have killed any sharks in the past and still want to bash look in the mirror first.
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I agree with ST, catch it, but how do you truly benefit from killing it.....
They say its beneficial for studies yet they cry about how the population of sharks is rapidly falling but its a great idea to kill a monster like this ? sorry but I dont understand this one
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Old 05-25-2006, 11:03 PM   #7 (permalink)
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That is absolutely ridiculous. What a waste. A large breeding female shark killed for no more reason than a picture and a possible record. I have never killed a shark (even mako fishing off NJ) because they are so slow growing and stocks are declining. Not to say that there is any problem killing a smaller sized shark for the table every once and a while, but very large fish are so important because they are breeders and have taken so many years to reach maturity.

QQ: there is a big difference between killing a huge hammerhead and killing a 200lb mako for the table. Killing a smaller sized shark for the table is very different than dragging in a giant for pictures.

Relentless: even the scientists in the article say they would have rather it been released.
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I have killed hundreds of sharks for sport and commercial so let he without sin cast the first stone So if you have never killed any sharks before you can start bashing now
I have never killed a shark that I didn't eat.
I'm not going to bash you because you killed those sharks when times where different. You seemed to have learned a lot since then. Now a days we all know that's BS and don't do it. This wasn't some first time angler or weekend warrior. These where professional USCG captains. The one's who burried the 950lber said they were going to start running charters to catch more. The guys that got the latest Hammerhead said they missed pitch baiting another one that was over 20ft. Probably hitler. I grew up over there and lived on Captiva for a few years. I fished BG pass quite a bit back then and dove the phosphate docks. That tarpon deal has become a circus.

Bottom line is this kind of BS has got to stop. Every time these stories hit the papers more idiots crawl out of the woodwork to go hit the pass. Catching these sharks is a lot different than you might think. It's almost like catching a tarpon at that resturaunt in the keys where you can hand feed them. Killing these apex predators that are 30-50 years old is disgraceful. Ask Frank Mundus what he thinks. There's a man who's been there and done that. Ask him what the shark fishing is like up there now compared to when he was doing it. Hundred mile runs each way with dry runs common. If you want to catch a big shark I have no problem with that. In fact it's definitely the hardiest fish to catch, photograph and release. I have no problem with killing a mako as long as you follow the regs. That takes skill, luck and the shark is not wasted. Pitch baiting sharks that are chasing tarpon so played out they can't out swim a dog is not sport. Especially these giant breeder sharks. I heard the 14 & 1/2 footer was loaded with babies
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Ed I guess you remember that I grew up fishing with Frank and he was my neighbor in Montauk Like I said I did not agree with them killing it.It should have been released or just left alone.When they got the 950 a couple weeks ago I told a friend that now everyone would be out there trying to get a record.You will see some big bulls killed soon.The more I think about it the more it bothers me they killed it but like I said I will not bash them.I do not agree with it but for me it is a catch 22 :???: I am sure the guys that got the 950lb are pissed and that fish being dead is really a waste now :shock: Not even a record now!The only reason for killing that shark is greed get the record and the press you get more charters and maybe some free tackle and sponsors.
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Shark Tagger and other wise anglers:

Please forgive my ignorance, but could you please explain the sharks purpose in the ocean. Is it a simple food chain thing or something else?
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I think it is a complex food chain thing and as the norm we think we are on the top.
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Shark Tagger and other wise anglers:

Please forgive my ignorance, but could you please explain the sharks purpose in the ocean. Is it a simple food chain thing or something else?
Not a bad question at all!!

Sharks serve MANY great purposes in the world ecosystem, but they also work to keep the ocean clean from spreading disease. Such as when a turtle is sick and dying of a nasty infection or such, you can be sure a mako shark will take care of it. Many sharks are scavengers and eat the dead fish and animals in the ocean...

Really there main job is eating...

I'm sure some of the guys here can explain better than I can...

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I can not judge some one for something I have done in the past.I have killed hundreds of sharks for sport and commercial so let he without sin cast the first stone So if you have never killed any sharks before you can start bashing now.If you have killed any sharks in the past and still want to bash look in the mirror first.

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This Shark has grown fat by living off perfectly healthy tarpoon, not by scavenging off the weak. I personally would not kill the shark, but the shark took advantage of a food chain that has become more complex with humans involved. Who knows how many tarpoon or even a swimmer were saved by the shark being killed. This shark has become too accustomed to feeding among humans. There is a risk for a easy meal.
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No, their mine I am just on Medication now.

I feel the same way, I don't kill for fun................Anymore. :bounce:

Flounder Pounder,

That does not sound like a Southern name.

By the way I have been crushing the flounder (Black Backs).

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TD Is that medication a combo of prozac and viagra :shock:

Feel free to ship down as many flounder as you would like :!:
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This Shark has grown fat by living off perfectly healthy tarpoon, not by scavenging off the weak. I personally would not kill the shark, but the shark took advantage of a food chain that has become more complex with humans involved. Who knows how many tarpoon or even a swimmer were saved by the shark being killed. This shark has become too accustomed to feeding among humans. There is a risk for a easy meal.
Actually that is ridiculous. Yes, sharks can and will catch healthy tarpon, but as anyone fighting a fish knows, they will be more likely eat a struggling or weak fish. Claiming that killing this shark "saved" tarpon is absolutely ludicrous. There is natural balance. Sharks and tarpon have lived together for thousands of years. I bet 100 years ago there were a lot more tarpon in the pass with sharks still there. You will probably see greater post-release mortality than shark related mortality, especially with tons of boats there. The idea that killing this shark "saved" tarpon is just the kind of ignorance that people use to justify the killing of sharks.

BTW-even with sharks and fisherman in the area, the tarpon fishing is still great in the pass. In fact, tarpon stocks are healthy throughout Florida with sharks occurring everywhere they do.

As for swimmers being "saved," shark attacks are very very rare. When was the last time someone was attacked by a shark, let alone a hammerhead, in the area of the pass? Swimmers are much more likely to drown in the pass than have a problem with a shark.
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Old 05-26-2006, 12:54 PM   #19 (permalink)
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natural selection allows for some tarpon to be killed by sharks, the fact that tarpon fatality increases by probably 1000% when hooked is without a doubt the most immoral and wasteful use of a natural resource that i have ever witnessed in the name of sport.

boca grand pass should be closed to recreational tarpon fishing immediatly.
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