Mackerel and tunnies

mozambik · 10-27-2006, 06:11 PM

Hi all, need some help here, any1 knows any good link, video pix on how to rig them?

Rigging details are welcome as well

Boboe · 10-27-2006, 08:56 PM

You talking about bridling up a tunny/bonita for live baiting? You did mention mackerel, which I've never tried to live bait with, since they're so damn fragile and die quickly. I can rig up a spaniard pretty well--chin weighted or not--if that's what you're looking for.

mozambik · 10-28-2006, 05:06 PM

yeap that would be it

other then for live baiting I dont know how to rig them

ops:

Boboe · 10-28-2006, 07:40 PM

So...you wanna know how to rig them up for dead baiting or for live baiting?

mozambik · 10-28-2006, 08:35 PM

the only way i know is passing the line in front of the eyes for live baiting.
Did some small mackerel rigging like ballyhoo+ilander but they didnt catch mutch...

I wanna know as many ways as possible either for dead or live baiting

ops:

Boboe · 10-29-2006, 10:22 PM

Lessee....

Dead baiting a spanish mackerel.

Gut the fish, making the smallest incision possible.

Salt him down really good and let him sit for a few hours.

Your hook bend will be coming out his gut cavity and the eye will be right in the center of his mouth. To do this, come from the gut cavity and push the eye of your hook through the membrane at the back of his throat. Position the hook eye in the center of his mouth.

Take your rigging needle and go through the top of his head, through the hook eye, and out the bottom of his chin. Keep all of it very straight and vertical.

Put a sleeve/crimp on your line, and shove it down through the hole your rigging needle made, going through the top of his head, the hook eye, and out his chin.

If you want to chin weight him (arguments for and against), now is the time to put a 2oz lead here (assuming spanish mackerel about 12" long).

Put your line through the sleeve. Make the loop pretty tight to keep the lead below his chin, if chin weighting. Make the loop somewhat loose (crimp about 1" in front of his nose) if going unweighted.

Crimp it down.

Sew his mouth shut. Usually one time right in the tip of his nose works fine.

Thread your needle with about 3' of floss. Push it through his head (from one side to the other, not top to bottom) far enough forward where you will be able to sew his gills tight eventually.

Pass the floss around his body (floss going around his belly) and go through him again a bit farther back. Repeat until you're all the way past the anus and the end of your incision. I usually have 5-9 holes.

Then come back forward, using all of the same holes. Your holes should be about half way up the fish if you don't want them to rip out quickly. Get some meat with that needle!

Make sure it's all very very tight!!!!! The fish is going to suck up tight in the salt or formaldehyde you'll put him in. Once you're back to the first stitch, tie it off with a few half hitches.

You can make extra stitches to sew the gills closed if your stitches didn't get them really well.

I then salt or formaldehyde the bait some more.

A chin weighted spanish will swim pretty well, much like a split tail mullet, but not quite as badass looking.

Without the chin weight he'll flap on one side, then the other, but still be swimming, not skipping.

If either bait is spinning it isn't done right.

10-27-2006, 06:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
mozambik Lines In Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 17	Mackerel and tunnies Hi all, need some help here, any1 knows any good link, video pix on how to rig them? Rigging details are welcome as well

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10-27-2006, 08:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
Boboe Hooked Up Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, TX Occupation: Alaskan Fishing Guide, Gulf of Mexico Offshore Crew Boat Captain Posts: 750	You talking about bridling up a tunny/bonita for live baiting? You did mention mackerel, which I've never tried to live bait with, since they're so damn fragile and die quickly. I can rig up a spaniard pretty well--chin weighted or not--if that's what you're looking for.

10-28-2006, 05:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
mozambik Lines In Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 17	yeap that would be it other then for live baiting I dont know how to rig them ops:

10-28-2006, 07:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
Boboe Hooked Up Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, TX Occupation: Alaskan Fishing Guide, Gulf of Mexico Offshore Crew Boat Captain Posts: 750	So...you wanna know how to rig them up for dead baiting or for live baiting?

10-28-2006, 08:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
mozambik Lines In Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 17	the only way i know is passing the line in front of the eyes for live baiting. Did some small mackerel rigging like ballyhoo+ilander but they didnt catch mutch... I wanna know as many ways as possible either for dead or live baiting ops:

10-29-2006, 10:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
Boboe Hooked Up Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, TX Occupation: Alaskan Fishing Guide, Gulf of Mexico Offshore Crew Boat Captain Posts: 750	Lessee.... Dead baiting a spanish mackerel. Gut the fish, making the smallest incision possible. Salt him down really good and let him sit for a few hours. Your hook bend will be coming out his gut cavity and the eye will be right in the center of his mouth. To do this, come from the gut cavity and push the eye of your hook through the membrane at the back of his throat. Position the hook eye in the center of his mouth. Take your rigging needle and go through the top of his head, through the hook eye, and out the bottom of his chin. Keep all of it very straight and vertical. Put a sleeve/crimp on your line, and shove it down through the hole your rigging needle made, going through the top of his head, the hook eye, and out his chin. If you want to chin weight him (arguments for and against), now is the time to put a 2oz lead here (assuming spanish mackerel about 12" long). Put your line through the sleeve. Make the loop pretty tight to keep the lead below his chin, if chin weighting. Make the loop somewhat loose (crimp about 1" in front of his nose) if going unweighted. Crimp it down. Sew his mouth shut. Usually one time right in the tip of his nose works fine. Thread your needle with about 3' of floss. Push it through his head (from one side to the other, not top to bottom) far enough forward where you will be able to sew his gills tight eventually. Pass the floss around his body (floss going around his belly) and go through him again a bit farther back. Repeat until you're all the way past the anus and the end of your incision. I usually have 5-9 holes. Then come back forward, using all of the same holes. Your holes should be about half way up the fish if you don't want them to rip out quickly. Get some meat with that needle! Make sure it's all very very tight!!!!! The fish is going to suck up tight in the salt or formaldehyde you'll put him in. Once you're back to the first stitch, tie it off with a few half hitches. You can make extra stitches to sew the gills closed if your stitches didn't get them really well. I then salt or formaldehyde the bait some more. A chin weighted spanish will swim pretty well, much like a split tail mullet, but not quite as badass looking. Without the chin weight he'll flap on one side, then the other, but still be swimming, not skipping. If either bait is spinning it isn't done right.

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