1 Speed VS. 2 Speed?

mannyc · 10-24-2006, 06:36 PM

I'm fairly new to swording. Is there any advantages/disadvantages? Besides the low gear for putting heat on fish?

Nick C · 10-24-2006, 07:27 PM

this thing will hit the 400' bait and be at the surface in a matter of seconds. hight speed reel is crucial

DIRTYFOOT2 · 10-24-2006, 07:46 PM

TRUE. Your toast without a good reel. :shock: For a big powerful fish down and dirty you'll appreciate that two speed reel

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DF2

mannyc · 10-24-2006, 08:13 PM

In the market for two more reels and trying to determine if the 2-speed is really need since I haven't landed my first yet.

Beerman · 10-24-2006, 08:16 PM

Not neccesary IMO, but doesnt hurt to have if needed, and if your gonna spend the $$$ on reels might as well pitch in the few extra and have it!!

Nick C · 10-24-2006, 08:19 PM

:stup
If you already have 50lb single speed reels, use 'em!!!! If your gonna buy, I'd spend a few extra bucks and get a 2 speed reel for the reason i mentioned already...

reefling · 10-24-2006, 10:12 PM

we boated one 301lbs and if we didnt have a 2 speed metal framed rees our reel would of melted and we wouldnt ove got the fish.

Verado06 · 10-24-2006, 10:22 PM

2 speed is great and gives me a nice work out

tightlines

billspilingup · 10-24-2006, 10:53 PM

Let me ask you this question:

You are going for a bike ride and sometimes you are going to have to slog it up steep terrain with lots of resistance and sometimes you are going to have to pedal really fast on the road. Are you going to pick a single speed bike or a bike that can do both jobs equally well?

Fuzzy Details · 10-25-2006, 11:11 AM

IMO, if you are getting new gear go for 2 speed 80W's and you will not regret it.

Flatsfish B · 10-25-2006, 11:19 AM

2 speed is nice, but IMO not needed. the only time I have ever thought about using it was when I was only at 14-16lbs of drag, the line just slips of the reel. Once you get up to 20-25 you are able to move the fish and actually pump the rod and reel the slack like your acustom to. Low gear is used when you cant pump because line just slides off the reel so you slowly just gain line. either method works. Like most said, if buying new reels go 2 speed Tiagra :lol:

DORADOsteve · 10-25-2006, 11:36 AM

No thanks, I will keep it simple with a single speed reel.

Just another thing to break or have an inexperienced angler mess around with.

quack quack · 10-25-2006, 11:37 AM

The only time 2 speed is a must is if you are fighting a fish out of the rod holder :shock: and you cant pump the rod.

Flatsfish B · 10-25-2006, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quack quack

The only time 2 speed is a must is if you are fighting a fish out of the rod holder :shock: and you cant pump the rod.

The only thing i dont like about single speed is forgetting to go back to high gear

DIRTYFOOT2 · 10-25-2006, 11:52 AM

Say what :-k

flcapt · 10-26-2006, 08:50 PM

I am very surprised at some of the posts here. When your hooked into a fish big enough to need higher drag settings the low gear will let you get the fish in half the time and half the effort.
I agree that it isn't needed on a 50 or 100 lb fish but get into the 200+ class when you can and need to use higher drag settings the low speed lets the angler gain line on every lift and drop of the rod.
When your fishing heavy drag with a high speed reel you need to drop the rod too fast to gain back the line because of the pressure from the fish, you just don't have the leverage to take back the line as well.
I have had many lg tuna, sharks and swords that would have killed the angler (as they did before 2speeds were available)if they didn't have the option of going to a lower speed. In the past after the angler tires it would become a tug of war that usually the fish would win. After 2speed reels became available the angler would always be able to gain line back, even if it is a foot at a time it still was not a stale mate. With low gear if the fish isn't taking drag the angler is able to take line back.

Just my opinion!

Broadbill · 10-27-2006, 08:43 AM

2 speeds are the only way to go on big fish. When a big tuna or marlin (or sword in this case) is down deep and digging, drop it in low and crank. It's simple to crank in low and you don't even need to pump the rod. In a long fight it will certainly save your strength, then when the fish tires go back to high and lay it to em'.

Duke · 10-27-2006, 11:18 AM

Agree 2 speed on big fish/ high drag is the way to go!!. Can you catch them on 1 speed?, yes but you will be beat and will probably take twice as long.

Fuzzy Details · 10-27-2006, 11:30 AM

When you pump the rod you need to be careful with the slack, especially if you are fishing all braid.

While in low you do not need to pump which keeps the tension more steady on the hook.

Also these fish may stay down low and then decide to come up. The high gear comes in real handy so you can keep the tension when they do that.

mannyc · 10-27-2006, 12:15 PM

Guys, thanks for all the info.

I am shopping for more gear and didn't know if the 2 speed was a must. Or it is one of these things that I have it because I can.

10-24-2006, 06:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
mannyc Hooked Up Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West Palm Beach Boat: Cobia 214cc Posts: 332	1 Speed VS. 2 Speed? I'm fairly new to swording. Is there any advantages/disadvantages? Besides the low gear for putting heat on fish?

10-24-2006, 07:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
Nick C Grander Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 900-1600' of water Boat: 25' Bluewater(Rough C's) Best Catch: est. 120lb Tarpon on 16lb tippet(fight time was 12 min) Occupation: Squid rigger Posts: 2,110	this thing will hit the 400' bait and be at the surface in a matter of seconds. hight speed reel is crucial __________________ "Put your buoys out... we're comin' in HOT!"

10-24-2006, 07:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
DIRTYFOOT2 Grander Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Lake Worth fl Best Catch: 53lb Black Grouper Occupation: Gunnel Washer Posts: 1,999	TRUE. Your toast without a good reel. :shock: For a big powerful fish down and dirty you'll appreciate that two speed reel . DF2 __________________ right thumb on the spool, left hand flips the lever

10-24-2006, 08:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
Beerman Hooked Up Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Stuart, FL Posts: 606	Not neccesary IMO, but doesnt hurt to have if needed, and if your gonna spend the $$$ on reels might as well pitch in the few extra and have it!! __________________ Word of Wisdom: Many a problem will solve itself, if we forget it and go FISHING!!!!

10-24-2006, 08:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
Nick C Grander Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 900-1600' of water Boat: 25' Bluewater(Rough C's) Best Catch: est. 120lb Tarpon on 16lb tippet(fight time was 12 min) Occupation: Squid rigger Posts: 2,110	:stup If you already have 50lb single speed reels, use 'em!!!! If your gonna buy, I'd spend a few extra bucks and get a 2 speed reel for the reason i mentioned already... __________________ "Put your buoys out... we're comin' in HOT!"

10-24-2006, 08:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
mannyc Hooked Up Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West Palm Beach Boat: Cobia 214cc Posts: 332	In the market for two more reels and trying to determine if the 2-speed is really need since I haven't landed my first yet.

10-24-2006, 10:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
reefling Hooked Up Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: palm beach Boat: reefling out of palm beach Best Catch: 300lb sword Occupation: fishing Posts: 185	we boated one 301lbs and if we didnt have a 2 speed metal framed rees our reel would of melted and we wouldnt ove got the fish.

10-24-2006, 10:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
Verado06 Hooked Up Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Miami and New Orleans Posts: 484	2 speed is great and gives me a nice work out tightlines

10-24-2006, 10:53 PM	#9 (permalink)
billspilingup Hooked Up Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lighthouse Point Boat: 31' Ocean Master Best Catch: 77'' Sword Posts: 438	Let me ask you this question: You are going for a bike ride and sometimes you are going to have to slog it up steep terrain with lots of resistance and sometimes you are going to have to pedal really fast on the road. Are you going to pick a single speed bike or a bike that can do both jobs equally well?

10-25-2006, 11:11 AM	#10 (permalink)
Fuzzy Details Lines In Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: S. FLA & Pine Island Boat: 29 SeaVee and 22 Pathfinder Occupation: Avionics Engineer Posts: 68	IMO, if you are getting new gear go for 2 speed 80W's and you will not regret it.

10-25-2006, 11:19 AM	#11 (permalink)
Flatsfish B Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boca Boat: 2300 Keywest Best Catch: 77'' pumpkin Occupation: Sales supervisor Posts: 684	2 speed is nice, but IMO not needed. the only time I have ever thought about using it was when I was only at 14-16lbs of drag, the line just slips of the reel. Once you get up to 20-25 you are able to move the fish and actually pump the rod and reel the slack like your acustom to. Low gear is used when you cant pump because line just slides off the reel so you slowly just gain line. either method works. Like most said, if buying new reels go 2 speed Tiagra :lol: __________________

10-25-2006, 11:36 AM	#12 (permalink)
DORADOsteve Hooked Up Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Singer Island, FL Posts: 541	No thanks, I will keep it simple with a single speed reel. Just another thing to break or have an inexperienced angler mess around with. __________________ Specializing in swordfish charters doradosteve@bellsouth.net

10-25-2006, 11:37 AM	#13 (permalink)
quack quack Old Salt Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: lake worth Best Catch: 25lb codfish 5 yrs old first hanger Posts: 4,452	The only time 2 speed is a must is if you are fighting a fish out of the rod holder :shock: and you cant pump the rod. __________________ Either we can be a part of the solution or we can be the victims of a decision.

10-25-2006, 11:52 AM	#15 (permalink)
DIRTYFOOT2 Grander Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Lake Worth fl Best Catch: 53lb Black Grouper Occupation: Gunnel Washer Posts: 1,999	Say what :-k __________________ right thumb on the spool, left hand flips the lever

10-26-2006, 08:50 PM	#16 (permalink)
flcapt Lines In Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Key Largo Boat: 67 Bertram Best Catch: 750 Bluefin, 660 Mako, 330 Bigeye Occupation: Captain Posts: 56	2 speeds I am very surprised at some of the posts here. When your hooked into a fish big enough to need higher drag settings the low gear will let you get the fish in half the time and half the effort. I agree that it isn't needed on a 50 or 100 lb fish but get into the 200+ class when you can and need to use higher drag settings the low speed lets the angler gain line on every lift and drop of the rod. When your fishing heavy drag with a high speed reel you need to drop the rod too fast to gain back the line because of the pressure from the fish, you just don't have the leverage to take back the line as well. I have had many lg tuna, sharks and swords that would have killed the angler (as they did before 2speeds were available)if they didn't have the option of going to a lower speed. In the past after the angler tires it would become a tug of war that usually the fish would win. After 2speed reels became available the angler would always be able to gain line back, even if it is a foot at a time it still was not a stale mate. With low gear if the fish isn't taking drag the angler is able to take line back. Just my opinion!

10-27-2006, 08:43 AM	#17 (permalink)
Broadbill Hooked Up Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ft. Pierce, Fl Posts: 327	2 speeds are the only way to go on big fish. When a big tuna or marlin (or sword in this case) is down deep and digging, drop it in low and crank. It's simple to crank in low and you don't even need to pump the rod. In a long fight it will certainly save your strength, then when the fish tires go back to high and lay it to em'.

10-27-2006, 11:18 AM	#18 (permalink)
Duke Hooked Up Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 271	Agree 2 speed on big fish/ high drag is the way to go!!. Can you catch them on 1 speed?, yes but you will be beat and will probably take twice as long.

10-27-2006, 11:30 AM	#19 (permalink)
Fuzzy Details Lines In Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: S. FLA & Pine Island Boat: 29 SeaVee and 22 Pathfinder Occupation: Avionics Engineer Posts: 68	When you pump the rod you need to be careful with the slack, especially if you are fishing all braid. While in low you do not need to pump which keeps the tension more steady on the hook. Also these fish may stay down low and then decide to come up. The high gear comes in real handy so you can keep the tension when they do that.

10-27-2006, 12:15 PM	#20 (permalink)
mannyc Hooked Up Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West Palm Beach Boat: Cobia 214cc Posts: 332	Guys, thanks for all the info. I am shopping for more gear and didn't know if the 2 speed was a must. Or it is one of these things that I have it because I can.

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