Prefered Water Temperature

Certifiable · 10-19-2006, 04:51 PM

Gents,
This is my first season on the darkside, I need a little winter swordfish science class. It is my understanding that the swordfishing season gets better as winter weather aproaches ? I recall the water temp in the stream is near 79-82 degrees in the cold months. Are we looking for the edge of the stream with a sharp temp difference, or are we looking for a specific temp of 72/74/76, or the coldest water we can find on the edge of the stream ?
Do the swords move in to shallower water as the water gets colder ?

Just trying to get the big picture to map out some strategy for the coming months. I know you will be covering this stuff on the 201 trip, but I can't make it that night.
I appreciate any insight on this post.
Thanks,
Ray

Fishalways · 10-19-2006, 04:53 PM

You and I seem to be in the same boat.

I'm new at this too and that is a great question.

Can anyone touch on the whole issue of temps, not just winter?

catching · 10-19-2006, 04:57 PM

We started in Febuary last year but we were not keeping a log at the time, all I can tell you is up to end of May last year all the fish we caught were inside the 50.

DIRTYFOOT2 · 10-19-2006, 07:36 PM

Catching,
What area do you usually fish. Discovered fishing with Ray that there is a difference between the 50 off Haulover, and the 50 off boynton.
Later,
DF2

catching · 10-19-2006, 07:51 PM

From 26.15 to 25.55

10-20-2006, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catching

From 26.15 to 25.55

That's funny, most of the fish I catch in the southern part of this
region is east of 49.

Temperature differences, both with depth and at the surface, are
more important than SST. A preliminary analysis of long line data
shows that the swords really don't care about sea surface temperature.
cheers, arthur

catching · 10-20-2006, 01:35 PM

O,

I think they are just all over the place, just more in one place than another, we have caught or had them on from the 54 out to the 45 over the past nine months just could not get a hook to stay in one over the past four months. That could have had something to do with the learning curve, and trying different set up's trying to get it right. Last one caught was on the 50, but the sea monster that we could not stop in the tournament was on the 49 with one of our best action nights was on the 45 this summer.

Those were numbers from Febuary to May, everything this summer has been east of the 50 as well. Do not know if it has anything to do with temp as you said but more on the location of the stream on any given night.

Sword Donkey · 10-20-2006, 04:04 PM

The long liners I talked to, who use to fish S. Florida in the 70's. Would start in 1,000 feet and make sets all the way to Bimini. They caught fish throughout the whole spread.

I believe setting you baits near or below the termocline is more important than surface water temp. I don't know... I could be wrong. Maybe someone else can chime in on how important water temp. is.

10-19-2006, 04:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
Certifiable Hooked Up Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Vero Beach Boat: 36' Contender Best Catch: 200# Blue Marlin/1200#Black Marlin Occupation: Engineer Posts: 351	Prefered Water Temperature Gents, This is my first season on the darkside, I need a little winter swordfish science class. It is my understanding that the swordfishing season gets better as winter weather aproaches ? I recall the water temp in the stream is near 79-82 degrees in the cold months. Are we looking for the edge of the stream with a sharp temp difference, or are we looking for a specific temp of 72/74/76, or the coldest water we can find on the edge of the stream ? Do the swords move in to shallower water as the water gets colder ? Just trying to get the big picture to map out some strategy for the coming months. I know you will be covering this stuff on the 201 trip, but I can't make it that night. I appreciate any insight on this post. Thanks, Ray

10-19-2006, 07:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
DIRTYFOOT2 Grander Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Lake Worth fl Best Catch: 53lb Black Grouper Occupation: Gunnel Washer Posts: 2,061	50 Catching, What area do you usually fish. Discovered fishing with Ray that there is a difference between the 50 off Haulover, and the 50 off boynton. Later, DF2

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Fishalways Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2006 Boat: 206 Kencraft Best Catch: 450# Blue Marlin, Walkers Cay Posts: 632	You and I seem to be in the same boat. I'm new at this too and that is a great question. Can anyone touch on the whole issue of temps, not just winter?

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catching Grander Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,552	We started in Febuary last year but we were not keeping a log at the time, all I can tell you is up to end of May last year all the fish we caught were inside the 50.

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catching Grander Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,552	From 26.15 to 25.55

10-20-2006, 01:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
catching Grander Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,552	O, I think they are just all over the place, just more in one place than another, we have caught or had them on from the 54 out to the 45 over the past nine months just could not get a hook to stay in one over the past four months. That could have had something to do with the learning curve, and trying different set up's trying to get it right. Last one caught was on the 50, but the sea monster that we could not stop in the tournament was on the 49 with one of our best action nights was on the 45 this summer. Those were numbers from Febuary to May, everything this summer has been east of the 50 as well. Do not know if it has anything to do with temp as you said but more on the location of the stream on any given night.

10-20-2006, 04:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
Sword Donkey Lines In Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Around 1,200 feet of water off Miami Boat: Killing and Releasing Sword Donkies Occupation: Salesman Posts: 91	The long liners I talked to, who use to fish S. Florida in the 70's. Would start in 1,000 feet and make sets all the way to Bimini. They caught fish throughout the whole spread. I believe setting you baits near or below the termocline is more important than surface water temp. I don't know... I could be wrong. Maybe someone else can chime in on how important water temp. is.

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