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Old 10-19-2004, 04:52 PM   #41 (permalink)
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TLD 25 is a smooth reel!

We got a 300lb sword on a Penn Senator 9/0 with 50lb test. That was a serious challenge! 4.5 hour laters we got the fish in the boat.

But let me tell you that reel was on fire... I would of rather been on a tld25 with braid anyday!
Hey Adm. Mike:

Could that have been an adventure night out with LightiningStryker?
His name rings my bell when I here Senator 9/0.

Hey LightiningS. - Now repeat after me "You cannot catch a 300 lb. slob with a Senator 9/0 star drag, especially not on a 16 ft. boat."

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Old 10-19-2004, 05:16 PM   #42 (permalink)
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You are crazy, and I know you will probably do it in my absence. I am waiting for the day when I see a picture of a nice swordie on a sailboat.
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Old 10-19-2004, 07:20 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Yeah Final Point:

When you have the fever, you've got to go; even if you need to become creative. All of my other fishing buddies with real sportfishes are too busy in recent weeks; AND/OR are out of town, hint, hint! Right now, I'm a hired gun, or not so hired gun, with sound swordfishing skills, but wanting to play in the DSOM II tourney. I think I would be a valued angler on any swordfishing excursion.

After DSOM, I'll have to bring Wilson and some unbiased newbies, for they don't know any better, that these things just cannot be done. Now repeat after me... "You CANNOT ... ... do that, can't you read the signs.. "

As far a winching slobs-on-a-sloop: don't provoke me, I'm warning you. irat: I may just get out there and do it by my own means of transportation. I've already got 4 rod holders setup: I just need one more for the bow tip-rod holder. Sea-drogues... do you need those, they are just in the way. Just hoist the mainsail to the first reefing point and BAM; you are pointing just a bit, just enough to get you out of the groove of the waves. Getting there fast: beam me there Scotty? A tuna door: what a novel idea! I wish I had one. I wonder if a boom with block and tackle could serve as a barbaric alternative without the luxury of such back door novelties.

Well I do not plan to question everything: I am just going to do it.

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Old 10-19-2004, 07:31 PM   #44 (permalink)
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OMFG! that is great! i cant wait to see that out on the grounds one night! i can see a slob already being hoisted tail fisrt up your mass! LOL. it will take you a while to re-setup though. might as well stay out all night in that thing, it will take a few hours to get in and out!

maybe you want to stick with those 50 since, backing down dosent seem to be very feasable.

all in good humor, i hope you do go out thier and show up some of the boys! good luck too you, who knows maybe i will join you one night!
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Old 10-19-2004, 09:19 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Thanks Kai akua:

The OMFG! , was too much for me to handle in spite of myself. I can't stop laughing... No Kona, or Maui Waui either ... I just can't stop.

I've got to go fishing, this fever is making me bust out in laughter and I can't stop. It must have hit a funny bone, big time.

This is good. I'm serious, I'm warning you irat: So you want to be a mate on the PorgeeRock. Arggh; alrighty then, welcome aboard sailor, Kona 'little N. lattitude' adventurer, but there may be some big slobs on the SE swordfish grounds this time of year. I hope you're ready: the spirits are high and the south beach Latinas may give you a lift too.

Well the main drift starts off of Fowey Lighthouse +10 and ends at Hillsboro inlet, no backtracking without a good reason. The code name is: Dinner Key Adventure.

Let's hoist a slob,

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Old 10-19-2004, 09:31 PM   #46 (permalink)
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I can't wait for this report. Just remember to bring a photographer. We need to see these pictures, swordfish or not. When I get back home you can have a twin diesel boat to come along on for a trip or two (a cruising boat at that, but the swordfish love it). Make sure to catch a wahoo and some dolphin on your way out. That trip is going to start nice and early so get your rest. Be safe, Risktaker. Bon voyage.
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Old 10-19-2004, 10:38 PM   #47 (permalink)
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only if we have an ample supply of papper bags to put over our heads as we leave and return to port, plus a few more fore when the pictures are taken. i dont think i can be seen on a sail boat, my family would disown me! :shock:

lol, i will pm you my number when i get in to town in a month or 2! LOL

Alohas!
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Old 10-20-2004, 06:17 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Robbie:

No paper bags permitted on board: embarrassed passengers are not preferrred, babes in Bikinis are suggested though. Nobody has to know that you would ever consider fishing on a "velero". Only under the cover of darkness, would you kill the diesel, adjust the mainsail to reef pt. 1. and very discretely slip a few rigged squids over the side. Oh, the hydroglow...? ambience, yeah thats the ticket, since open flame candles are not allowed beyond safe harbor.

Nobody would ever known any different. If we happen to return to port with a slob or two on deck, we can say that we found them floating out there. Yeah, yeah, And in the name of conservation to "Save the Slobs" we plucked them out of the water. Of course, we would have to report this to the authorities, so we don't get arrested by the Coast Guard or the NMFS for possession of contraband.

Now repeat after me: "It is just a day sailer. We can fish only on sportfishes with at least 150 h.p. But we can also enjoy the other side of the boating community without embarrassment, once in a while, just to be civil."

Oh the life of a sailor, such wandering courses,

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Old 10-20-2004, 08:42 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Hey that was great background on your personal experiences. But I did not understand why all the agitation though. Was it just something you said or did some of those Neanderthal's, as you mentioned, want the swordfishing biz to appear like rocket science and hence the need to have top-shelf equipment, or just wanted more of the swordfish-pie for themselves?

You mentioned doing seminars at the Sail Club. Which sail club are you referring too?
They were acting like it was their own personal fishery. The guys asking for tips were polite and weren't asking for any big secrets. In fact, before this site came up, the only way for newbies to learn anything was to ask. Now all you have to do is come here and all the information is a click away.

Look, swordfishing definitely isn't for everyone. It's dark, you're well offshore in an area where the weather can go verschmicken in an instant. Add to that a fish that has a very sharp bill, can go a couple of hundred pounds and is well known for boatside shenanigans and you have a recipe that can spell disaster.

That being said, I have no problem helping folks that want to learn. I look at it this way, alot of people over the years shared information with me. Now it's my turn to give back.
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Old 10-20-2004, 11:53 AM   #50 (permalink)
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that is why i respect Mitch so much.He has always be nice enough to share any info he may have with anyone who asks!If it were not for people like him,i would be out there not knowing the little that i do!
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that is why i respect Mitch so much.He has always be nice enough to share any info he may have with anyone who asks!If it were not for people like him,i would be out there not knowing the little that i do!


I second that. I have not spoke much on the FS forum, but Mitch is the first one to help out the newbies to Swordin. Good People. 0123
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CaptinMitch:

Thanks for reply. You did not respond to anything about sailor stories so I will take it then, that there are few if any stories down this avenue. It just caught my attention since you had mentioned doing seminar(s) at a sail club as well.

As, you can already tell by now, I have a 31' sloop, and could use it for swordfishing purposes if so inclined, or challenged. irat: Naturally, I was curious to hear about any success stories along this uncommon venue. Granted, I prefer to be on the boat that will do the job best but if I happened to be there anyway: sure I would go ahead and drop some squids down. As a matter of fact it is down right unusual: just like the specialty of swordfishing and Cave diving, both of which I am active.

But back to mainstream swordfishing stuff ...

Have you ever spoken at the SESC, meetings at HoJos in Deerfield Beach? This could be a good opportunity to share any special techniques and experiences. Do you attend meetings there? Or have you set up a seminar lately? Bouncer Smith just did one about a week ago at Dusky Sports Center. There were seasoned anglers and newbies alike, but each can gleen a certain amount of information by comparing notes on different angler's techniques.

Touch base with Adm. Mike or Bobby Boyle if that perks your interest. You may be able to work something out. There is also a general offshore fishing club in Pompano that could have opportunities as well, especially if you are interested in drumming up some charters. Dean Panos did one there about 3 months ago, so any swordfish specifics may need a rest for a couple more months.

Ok here is a question for you. How do you prefer to hook up your weights and lighting device(s)? Are you doing break-awaystyle or semi-permanent and what distances/conditions are your preferences?

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Old 10-20-2004, 01:22 PM   #53 (permalink)
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i am giving a seminar at the Miami Outboard Club on monday Nov.22.

All are invited!
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Old 10-20-2004, 02:15 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Well that’s a bunch of questions. Let me see if I get this right.

No, never heard of anyone swording on a sailboat. That would definitely be a first. We’ve been trying to get Nick Cardella one on fly which would be the first junior angler to do so. He’s had one good shot so far but Mr. Sword wasn’t buying it. Personally, I think you should go for it.

As far as the SESC they haven’t asked so I haven’t done one for them. As season approaches the wife’s catering business starts booming so time becomes an issue for me. I had Ron from SESC come up and speak at the Ask an Expert seminar that I organized for the Non-club. He took care of swording with big tackle and I did the light tackle portion. If you want someone from that area, I’d highly recommend he and Cliff as they are both very knowledgable and friendly.

As far as lights and weights. I double crimp the top end on the leader leaving a three inch gap between crimps, That’s where I attach the light and break-away weight. For the weight I use between 8 to 16 ounces wrapped with copper wire, whatever it takes to get the bait down. Haywire twist the copper 6 times and it drops off nicely. I also fish the lines straight out of the holders with no jugs or balloons. Instead I have a release clip on a short piece of mono around the rod above the reel.

I run 3-4 rods and fish one on top, one down 125-150 and one 250-300. If I have a 4th line it goes down abour 50-75 feet and drop the other baits down another 25-50 feet. The brighter the moon, the deeper the set. It also pays to listen to 72. If I start hearing about a deeper bite, I have no qualms about dropping the baits another 100 feet. I actually hooked up one night on a bait that was close to 600 feet deep. By the way, you’d be surprised at the number of fish taken on the flat line bait.


This set-up give me the advantage of being able to allow novice anglers to hook their own fish. Since I use circle hooks, all we have to do is either wait for the clip to pop or wait for the clip to slide back down the rod. (That means the fish has picked up the bait and is swimming toward you) – then reel hard. We rarely get hit without knowing it as opposed to when you hear people who had their whole spread cleaned out.

Again, I prefer the KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) method because it works for me. We can pick up and move at a moments notice without having a hassle clearing the spread.

Oh, on your other post you asked about the Sail Club. It, like the Non-club, are part of a different forum. Out of respect for Mike, I’ll leave it up to him if he wants to use the name.

I look forward to seeing your pictures of a monster sword laying in the jib sheet like it was a canyon bag.


Oh, I look at cave diving the same way I look at playing Russian Roulette with an automatic - no thanks. My hats off to those who do.

<edit> Mike said it's okay to mention the other forum. Sail Club and the Non-club™ are part of the Florida Sportsman Forum.
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Hey Joe:

I have some buddies (never-ever/newbies) that live down that way. I am going to see if I can't convince them to get out and attend your seminar. One has an open fish but he is hestitent to go out that far at night. I think it may actually be the significant other and not the Stiltsville/grounds or the distance that is the decisive factor.

An informative and smooth seminar may convince him otherwise, so long as you do not tell any scary lightning stories!

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Old 10-20-2004, 02:34 PM   #56 (permalink)
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I have some buddies (never-ever/newbies) that live down that way. One has an open fish but he is hestitent to go out that far at night.
I wouldn't force the issue. Like I said earlier, this game isn't for everyone. If he does go, make sure he takes someone experienced with him. The learning curve can be fatal.

Oh, and scary lightning stories sometimes are part of the game. Ask anyone who fished the LYC sword tourny last year. You could actually hear the butts puckering at one point.
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ya that was fun wasnt it mitch? the lyc tourney last yr...i'll never forget it..at least u were on the berty..lol...
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ya that was fun wasnt it mitch? the lyc tourney last yr...i'll never forget it..at least u were on the berty..lol...
Yeah, it was rocking and rolling. One point I thought she was going to turn turtle. Kind of funny watching the couches flying back and forth in the salon. That's a night I'd rather forget.

Although the cookout at 2 in the morning was a nice touch.
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lol ya the cook out was fun,dont remember much,do to way too much drinking..Lol i remember the night before getting hammerd with u..lol where was that bar we were at? that place was nice and quiet,well until we walked in..
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lol ya the cook out was fun,dont remember much,do to way too much drinking..Lol i remember the night before getting hammerd with u..lol where was that bar we were at? that place was nice and quiet,well until we walked in..
It was Southport Raw Bar. It was unusally quiet for that place. Must say we livened the joint up a bit.