Poly balls?

Relentless33 · 08-28-2006, 12:12 AM

I've heard that poly balls will implode if there is a great amount of pressure on it and a polyurethane ball won't. To be used with line attached for a harpoon is the regular poly ball enough or is the polyurethane ball necessary?

Please correct me if I am wrong in any way, I was under this understanding.

Thanks

Jr.

Broadbill-Pro · 08-28-2006, 07:44 AM

unless you carry a 60'' or larger pollyball, it will most likely sink with a hot fish. when it sinks it won't pop, but it will loose bouyancy. use a hard jap ball, it takes up less space onboard and continues to offer resistance when sunk. FYI - jap balls will break, but i am not sure at what depth but i have broken them. steve at hiliner probably has that information. second problem with the pollyball is a float of that size offers way too much resistance before it submerges.

Relentless33 · 08-28-2006, 07:51 AM

Thank you sir, so you think a hard jap ball is the way to go if it's going to be attached to a line for a harpoon.

Thanks, I'll talk to Steve more about it.

Broadbill-Pro · 08-28-2006, 10:17 AM

yes, a jap ball is the best when the harpoon line is going to be released. personally i believe that a harpoon running line should be long enough so that it never comes to the end. snapping dobbs (bullet bouys) on the line as it peels out is the best way, they also get crushed when sunk but another can be added with longline snaps.

greg1 · 08-28-2006, 10:21 AM

Does Steve take orders for 1 and 2 items or do they only take large commercial orders?

Anybody have a phone number? Thanks.

Broadbill-Pro · 08-28-2006, 10:33 AM

not sure what the status is there now for selling to the public. tackle shops bitch when their wholesaler sells direct. 954-783-1320, steve is the most in-tune with local fisherman, but anyone can handle questions about products.

Relentless33 · 08-28-2006, 11:01 AM

Thanks BP, look forward to meeting you in the near future

Captain Ollie · 08-28-2006, 11:02 AM

Just go directly to Lindgren Pittman. 954-943-4243 They are on Copans and 5th in Pompano and they have the jap balls and bullets. Just make sure to call in advance as they make the jap balls on demand only.

Relentless33 · 08-28-2006, 11:03 AM

Will do, maybe, either way it's a little hard in a classroom :shock:

Relentless33 · 08-28-2006, 11:06 AM

Would one of the jap balls be enough or would you certainly need more? :shock: :?:

BirdDog0219 · 08-28-2006, 11:59 AM

High catch dose not sell retail.

Broadbill-Pro · 08-28-2006, 12:16 PM

L/P sells retail, but they absolutely protect their venders. that means do not expect a discount on any products. you could find their products for the same price or less from distributors.

cool the way they make the hard balls, two halfs are spun together and the friction welds it into one unit.

JahMussa · 08-28-2006, 12:17 PM

I carry the hard balls so let me now if you need them. They have 45lbs of resistence to 1000ft. Not sure what happens after that but if fails, pat yourself on the back for at least catching a monster fish

The poly balls will loose bouyance and be useless on a big fish.

They come with an attachment ring on one side and flat on the other so they won't roll around while on deck. Or you can get them with attachment rings on both sides.

The flat side is threaded for a 7 inch riser and you can attache a bouy strobe to it. To keep cost down, you can simply attach a Electralume or a few light sticks to it so you can see it when it pops back up to the surface

-Tek

Relentless33 · 08-28-2006, 06:10 PM

So if we hooked one jap ball to they end of the harpoon line and watched the fish take it in a few seconds we would only have to worry about following the ball, not losing the bal or the fish in any way?

greg1 · 08-28-2006, 06:23 PM

I guess you clip a light to the ball. That could be tough to find w/ the spotlight.

Tek, do you sell the hard bullet buoys also?

Relentless33 · 08-28-2006, 06:25 PM

Tape a Firefly to it, thng will light up the world

:twisted: :bounce: :thumright:

JahMussa · 08-28-2006, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greg1

I guess you clip a light to the ball. That could be tough to find w/ the spotlight.

Tek, do you sell the hard bullet buoys also?

I have the big strobes like the ones the bouy guys use. You will need a light source of some type to track your bouy. Or attach a bullet buoy with a High Flyer and track it with your radar (you will still need a light source).

Bullets... Yes Sir.

Relentless33 · 08-29-2006, 12:49 AM

If a fish ripped the line off and took out the ball would that be all that is needed, or would we need to attavh another one or two eventually?

Thanks again :?:

JahMussa · 08-29-2006, 01:12 AM

Throw it over and hope it comes up soon... which it most likely will. Or some like to attach a rod to it so they have a hard line to the bouy.

Relentless33 · 08-29-2006, 01:14 AM

That I would do, looks like I'll be changing the gear around a little bit soon.

Thanks a ton for all of the help and advice

08-28-2006, 12:12 AM	#1 (permalink)
Relentless33 Grander Join Date: Apr 2006 Best Catch: 81" sword Posts: 2,994	Poly balls? I've heard that poly balls will implode if there is a great amount of pressure on it and a polyurethane ball won't. To be used with line attached for a harpoon is the regular poly ball enough or is the polyurethane ball necessary? Please correct me if I am wrong in any way, I was under this understanding. Thanks Jr.

08-28-2006, 07:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
Relentless33 Grander Join Date: Apr 2006 Best Catch: 81" sword Posts: 2,994	Thank you sir, so you think a hard jap ball is the way to go if it's going to be attached to a line for a harpoon. Thanks, I'll talk to Steve more about it. __________________

08-28-2006, 11:02 AM	#8 (permalink)
Captain Ollie Hooked Up Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Davie Florida Boat: 28 foot Kevlacat Best Catch: Strippers/Barely Legal Cheerleaders Occupation: Commercial tropical fish collector, lobster diver, bouy gear fisherman, 100ton captain Posts: 596	Just go directly to Lindgren Pittman. 954-943-4243 They are on Copans and 5th in Pompano and they have the jap balls and bullets. Just make sure to call in advance as they make the jap balls on demand only. __________________ Remember that house you, or maybe your neighbor couldn't pay for? Well, now your gonna pay for it!!

08-28-2006, 12:17 PM	#13 (permalink)
JahMussa Hooked Up Join Date: May 2004 Location: Lighthouse Point, FLA Boat: Contender 31 Best Catch: 96" x 64" Occupation: Tackle Ho! Posts: 570	I carry the hard balls so let me now if you need them. They have 45lbs of resistence to 1000ft. Not sure what happens after that but if fails, pat yourself on the back for at least catching a monster fish The poly balls will loose bouyance and be useless on a big fish. They come with an attachment ring on one side and flat on the other so they won't roll around while on deck. Or you can get them with attachment rings on both sides. The flat side is threaded for a 7 inch riser and you can attache a bouy strobe to it. To keep cost down, you can simply attach a Electralume or a few light sticks to it so you can see it when it pops back up to the surface -Tek __________________ www.ILoveSwordfishing.com

08-29-2006, 12:49 AM	#18 (permalink)
Relentless33 Grander Join Date: Apr 2006 Best Catch: 81" sword Posts: 2,994	If a fish ripped the line off and took out the ball would that be all that is needed, or would we need to attavh another one or two eventually? Thanks again :?: __________________

08-28-2006, 07:44 AM	#2 (permalink)
Broadbill-Pro Grander Join Date: Jan 2006 Best Catch: When I look at a Commercial Fishing Vessel I see 300 million Americans and you only see the Crew Posts: 1,396	unless you carry a 60'' or larger pollyball, it will most likely sink with a hot fish. when it sinks it won't pop, but it will loose bouyancy. use a hard jap ball, it takes up less space onboard and continues to offer resistance when sunk. FYI - jap balls will break, but i am not sure at what depth but i have broken them. steve at hiliner probably has that information. second problem with the pollyball is a float of that size offers way too much resistance before it submerges.

08-28-2006, 10:17 AM	#4 (permalink)
Broadbill-Pro Grander Join Date: Jan 2006 Best Catch: When I look at a Commercial Fishing Vessel I see 300 million Americans and you only see the Crew Posts: 1,396	yes, a jap ball is the best when the harpoon line is going to be released. personally i believe that a harpoon running line should be long enough so that it never comes to the end. snapping dobbs (bullet bouys) on the line as it peels out is the best way, they also get crushed when sunk but another can be added with longline snaps.

08-28-2006, 10:21 AM	#5 (permalink)
greg1 Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Charelston, SC Posts: 129	Does Steve take orders for 1 and 2 items or do they only take large commercial orders? Anybody have a phone number? Thanks.

08-28-2006, 10:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
Broadbill-Pro Grander Join Date: Jan 2006 Best Catch: When I look at a Commercial Fishing Vessel I see 300 million Americans and you only see the Crew Posts: 1,396	not sure what the status is there now for selling to the public. tackle shops bitch when their wholesaler sells direct. 954-783-1320, steve is the most in-tune with local fisherman, but anyone can handle questions about products.

08-28-2006, 11:01 AM	#7 (permalink)
Relentless33 Grander Join Date: Apr 2006 Best Catch: 81" sword Posts: 2,994	Thanks BP, look forward to meeting you in the near future

08-28-2006, 11:03 AM	#9 (permalink)
Relentless33 Grander Join Date: Apr 2006 Best Catch: 81" sword Posts: 2,994	Will do, maybe, either way it's a little hard in a classroom :shock:

08-28-2006, 11:06 AM	#10 (permalink)
Relentless33 Grander Join Date: Apr 2006 Best Catch: 81" sword Posts: 2,994	Would one of the jap balls be enough or would you certainly need more? :shock: :?:

08-28-2006, 11:59 AM	#11 (permalink)
BirdDog0219 Lines In Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ft.laud Boat: fishing Occupation: Marine electronics tech Posts: 91	High catch dose not sell retail.

08-28-2006, 12:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
Broadbill-Pro Grander Join Date: Jan 2006 Best Catch: When I look at a Commercial Fishing Vessel I see 300 million Americans and you only see the Crew Posts: 1,396	L/P sells retail, but they absolutely protect their venders. that means do not expect a discount on any products. you could find their products for the same price or less from distributors. cool the way they make the hard balls, two halfs are spun together and the friction welds it into one unit.

08-28-2006, 06:10 PM	#14 (permalink)
Relentless33 Grander Join Date: Apr 2006 Best Catch: 81" sword Posts: 2,994	So if we hooked one jap ball to they end of the harpoon line and watched the fish take it in a few seconds we would only have to worry about following the ball, not losing the bal or the fish in any way?

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08-28-2006, 06:23 PM	#15 (permalink)
greg1 Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Charelston, SC Posts: 129	I guess you clip a light to the ball. That could be tough to find w/ the spotlight. Tek, do you sell the hard bullet buoys also?

08-28-2006, 06:25 PM	#16 (permalink)
Relentless33 Grander Join Date: Apr 2006 Best Catch: 81" sword Posts: 2,994	Tape a Firefly to it, thng will light up the world :twisted: :bounce: :thumright:

08-29-2006, 01:12 AM	#19 (permalink)
JahMussa Hooked Up Join Date: May 2004 Location: Lighthouse Point, FLA Boat: Contender 31 Best Catch: 96" x 64" Occupation: Tackle Ho! Posts: 570	Throw it over and hope it comes up soon... which it most likely will. Or some like to attach a rod to it so they have a hard line to the bouy. __________________ www.ILoveSwordfishing.com

08-29-2006, 01:14 AM	#20 (permalink)
Relentless33 Grander Join Date: Apr 2006 Best Catch: 81" sword Posts: 2,994	That I would do, looks like I'll be changing the gear around a little bit soon. Thanks a ton for all of the help and advice __________________

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