Line options for Tiagra 50W's?

[spinfreak]

First off....long time since I've been on here. Nice to finally get a chance to stop back in. I finally was able to pick up a couple of Sword set-ups, so now I'll finally be able to get out there for Swordies, so I'll be here more often.

Anyway, I bought 2 set-ups with Tiagra 50W on stand-up rods with all rollers. The reels are rigged with approx 2000yds of 50lb braid. I'm trying to decide what I want to do with the line. The way I see it, I have 3 options...
A) Leave the 50lb braid on there. Add a wind-on leader, and be done with it.
B) Take off a little of the braid, and add a top shot of either mono or JB hollow core (130lb maybe?)
C) Take off all of the 50lb braid, and fill the entire spool with either mono, or JB hollow core.

The rods won't get used much, but when I do use them, it'll probably be for swording. I'm sure I'll occasionally try trolling for wahoo/tuna/marlin, but that will be in the future, and not often.

Any advice on which way I should go with the line? Thanks

[Shark Tagger]

go with mono, braid and jerry brown is tough on the hands, tangles real easy, and hard to feel out the flaws.

With mono, you can feel the chafing, get more stretch, and much easier on the hands when working with it.

I once changed 3 of my reels over to jerry brown. THe only thing I enjoyed was the knotless connections...

I guess it is a matter of preference, but I now go all mono with long leaders...

Good lcuk

[Relentless33]

How would you feel overall about spooling a 50 wide Tiagra with braid line ??

2000 YARDS OF LINE !!!!!!!!! too nice to resist

Where gloves and you have no more problems about the hands cutting, but it is a pain everytime you touch it to be burnt or cut by it.

I just see the extra line capacity being amazing, no more being scared in the winter for the monsters

Give me your opinion on it

[spinfreak]

Thanks for the info so far.

As far as the 50lb braid on there now, I don't have any problem of using it. I've fished inshore and offshore with braid for years, and am very confortable with it. I know the in's and out's of using it (knots, etc), and know better than to grab it with a bare hand to leader in a fish or break it off.

But when it comes to Swordfishing, then I'm in un-familiar territory. I mean, I'm familiar with rigging and all, but not familiar with using 50lb braid for them. If the 50lb will work, then I'll keep it on there. Just don't know if that's the right choice or not.

[Relentless33]

We use 50 lb moimoi diamond on the TLD's

[CaptKen]

I have 50WLRS's I put {TEK did it} 600y of #130 Jerry Brown and 200Y of 80lb mamoi on top which ia actually breaks over 100lb,

So I have over 800 yards of over 100 lb test
I love it, would do it the same way again
Trolling for wahoo w/a 3lb sinker at 16knts not a prob
JB is easy on the hands compared to braid
the glory is when line change time comes, 200 yards of mono instead of a $70.00 spool per reel
I have had to give chase before, But on the other hand I have to give chase with an 80 wide also.
I would get in touch with Tek at reelproshop.com

[Relentless33]

That sounds like a perfect setup.....

Im asking this because Im going to be honest and I dont know, Wouldnt the JB have much more capacity on the reel, I guess its just because that 80 lb Momoi takes the rest.

[njoimia]

not to hate, but why have a website if i have to call to find out pricing on half the items??

[CaptKen]

because the prices change like gasoline, Trust me, if you want to save a buck the effort is worth it.

[Captain Ollie]

If the reels came with braid I would just go ahead and leave it. Unless your money tree is well fertilized and you just feel like changing it I would definitely recommend going with the JBHC130. Just don't go with mono I think it sucks for this type of fishing. I have been known to get my fish to the boat fairly green and sometimes when the fish makes some crazy last ditch efforts to get away I have had the line come in contact with the hull and/ or motors. If I were using mono with as much drag as I do that would have been the end of it. I had a 150 pounder that went utterly beserk on the surface once after it came right to the boat after hookup. It started racing around the boat like mad and managed to wrap the engines a couple of times. I was using 150# power pro at the time and it didn't even show any signs of chaffing!

[Relentless33]

Thats a pretty good sign :thumleft:

[CaptKen]

Originally Posted by Relentless33

That sounds like a perfect setup.....

Im asking this because Im going to be honest and I dont know, Wouldnt the JB have much more capacity on the reel, I guess its just because that 80 lb Momoi takes the rest.

you could go with 80 jb instaed of 130 and get more line, I dont want a fish more that 800 yards away myself, I hammer the drag, somethin is gona give,hopefully the fish, With this set up I witnessed first hand an est 400 lb+ mako hand fed at boatside more than 1/2 as long as my boat take off w/25lbs of drag like it was nothin,sounded like the reel was gonna blow apart, hammer the drag all the way est/35lbs and probably more like 45 lbs after you figure in 500 or 600 yards of line drag in the water, and able to put the skids to him and turn him before getting dumped.

[Relentless33]

Thats what I was thinking, the TLD's now have 50 lb but it breaks closer to 80 and the 80 lb JB is still much thinner.

How many yards do you think it would hold of straight 80 lb JB ??

And what do you think about the topshot of Momoi Diamond on there ??

Thanks,

Relentless

[RiskTaker]

Relentless:

According to Jerry Brown data, you should be able to spool about a 1000 yds. of JBHC 80# onto a TLD50.

See the link and go down to the chart: http://www.jerry-brown-industries.com/old_welcome.html

[Relentless33]

Thats a TLD !!!??!?!!! lol

HMM.... that gets me thinking

[Relentless33]

Now, I have heard stories of how the braided line must be packed so tight otherwise it will break....... Every time you reel it in from a hundred or more feet down you arent going to have it packed as tight as the tackle shop packed it when it was first put on.

My question is how would that work out and is it still good to have??

Im trying to learn as much as i can about it.

[wackme]

u shouldnt have to try to pack it super tight when its wet it will get packed pretty tight . i have a had problems with corroison and scrathing with the power pro i never have used jb but have noitced alot of salt build up in the power pro when i had it on my 30 wide alutecnos, wash the reel throughly after use. by the way you can do things on a 50 wide with braid that you could never do with mono, without a ten hour battle at least , we landed a 650 + black marlin in panama on my 30w with 100 lb power pro

[spinfreak]

Wow. Thanks for all the info guys. I think I'm leaing towards taking all the 50lb braid off, and going with the JB 130lb with a top shot of mono.

[RiskTaker]

Spin:

I think you ought to stay put with the 50# dacron braid, for now, even as much as it is itching you to change it out to JBHC. Take the $200-$300 that it would cost you for line and buy gas and bait to go swordfishing. You may even get a few trips out of it. June and July are here: the bight should be getting better than it has been.

I'll bet you don't get spooled. Then you will have some fish in the freezer. After a nicely seared swordfish steak is finished for dinner, you can kick back and once again ponder the idea to change line, or buy more gas to get out there once again).
(If you do get spooled, then you will know it is time to respool with the line of your choice. )

Your call.

(Remember JBHC 130 is the better value over JBHC80, just compare prices on a 2500 yard spool.)

P.S. - My top shot is a 60 ft. Wind-on of 200#, sometimes 25 ft. if they are production made, or 100 ft. of 80 lb., depending on what I am doing.

[Relentless33]

Hey RT, I never thanked you for the website, it showed me a lot about the line and its capacities....


Thanks,

Relentless