sword reels ???

[publius]

i've been checking out this site and can't make heads or tails of the reels and capacities. i'm wanting to get a reel for swordfish but can't figure which one has the huge capacity you guys keep talking about. Also, do all 50's & 80's, etc. have pretty much the same capacity regardless of manufacturer. Mainly interested in accurate, Avet. plan on JB hollow. many thanks from an ignorant wannabe swordman.

[Capt. JJ]

You can pass on the Accurates. Overpriced IMHO. Tiagras work just fine and the price is right. Avets have really smooth drags and you can put a lot of heat on 'em.

[publius]

what size am I going to need to get deep w/what size line. 100lb. JB i assume?

[Capt. JJ]

For day-dropping, I'd recommend 80's. If you're doing night drifts, 50's are fine, and I know people that use 30's. They've also got some stories about getting worked, but they still use 'em. Yeah, 100 JB or the momoi is pretty good too.

[publius]

Thank you capt. JJ.

[Robs]

Tiagra 50W= 1400 yds JB 100

[novomarine]

Originally Posted by Capt. JJ

For day-dropping, I'd recommend 80's. If you're doing night drifts, 50's are fine, and I know people that use 30's. They've also got some stories about getting worked, but they still use 'em. Yeah, 100 JB or the momoi is pretty good too.

I use Tiagra 30 wlrs with 1000 yards of 65 lb momoi... never had a problem... isn't 100 lb braid overkill??

I'm thinking about a Tiagra 50 wlrs for day drop with 2000 yards 65 lb momoi... do you guy's think it will be enough???

[Ed Walker]

I am far from an expert and new to the game but I have been experimenting with reels and lines for two summers now. Hand crank, daytime dropping only. Not long ago I was asking the same questions you are. Heres what I came up with.
My goal was to figure out the smallest most managable set up that would work.
I have 50W Shimanos and bought a 30W to try this year. I also built a stand-up rod just for the 30 that is working very good thus far. The 30WLRS reel is working out fine for me. Holds 1200 yds of 80 lb high vis yellow SpiderWire braid (which tests at over 100 and you can see it in the water to keep your line straight up and down) The best part is that you can actually hold this outfit and move around the boat while fighting your fish.
The 50 works good too. Holds 1200 of 100 lb braid. It would probably be the best one to have in your hands when you get the real monster on. That being said, we have caught several fish over 200 recently on the 30W however without issues.
Personally I cant imagine trying to stand up fish with an 80.
Hope this helps narrow your search.
My two cents anyway...

[novomarine]

Originally Posted by Ed Walker

I am far from an expert and new to the game but I have been experimenting with reels and lines for two summers now. Hand crank, daytime dropping only. Not long ago I was asking the same questions you are. Heres what I came up with.
My goal was to figure out the smallest most managable set up that would work.
I have 50W Shimanos and bought a 30W to try this year. I also built a stand-up rod just for the 30 that is working very good thus far. The 30WLRS reel is working out fine for me. Holds 1200 yds of 80 lb high vis yellow SpiderWire braid (which tests at over 100 and you can see it in the water to keep your line straight up and down) The best part is that you can actually hold this outfit and move around the boat while fighting your fish.
The 50 works good too. Holds 1200 of 100 lb braid. It would probably be the best one to have in your hands when you get the real monster on. That being said, we have caught several fish over 200 recently on the 30W however without issues.
Personally I cant imagine trying to stand up fish with an 80.
Hope this helps narrow your search.
My two cents anyway...

Is 1200 yards enough for a day drop in 2000 feet? I was thinking about going with Momoi 65 lbs that way I'll have more line capacity and less drag... what do you think??

[Disco Lady]

65 lb line! COÑO!!!!!!! I would never want anything that lite around you never now what's going to bite! that hook down there. I would use 80-100 lbs.

DL,

[Tunachaser]

Originally Posted by Disco Lady

65 lb line! COÑO!!!!!!! I would never want anything that lite around you never now what's going to bite! that hook down there. I would use 80-100 lbs.
DL,

Nothing less than 80# on my reels, but we fish all Tiagra 50's & 80's for night drifting and 80's when we do daydrops. I can see the fun in using 30's on smaller fish at night (which we do see a lot of around here), but WHEN you do finally hook that BIG fish, I'm not confident that a 30 would be enough to get the job done. I'm not an expert by any means, but would not recommend fishing a 30 for daydropping. Just my .02, to each his own

[novomarine]

fishing for swords at night I use 12-15 lbs of drag... how much drag do you use day timing??? 20?? 30??? isn't 65 enough for that??? I just don't don't get the 100lb braid for 20 lbs drag.... 5 to 1 ratio seams overkill...

[d-a]

Originally Posted by novomarine

fishing for swords at night I use 12-15 lbs of drag... how much drag do you use day timing??? 20?? 30??? isn't 65 enough for that??? I just don't don't get the 100lb braid for 20 lbs drag.... 5 to 1 ratio seams overkill...

Im with you, i use a 4-1 ratio on my breaking strength to drag ratio...however i think what DL suggest is having the heavier line so if you need to go to full drag the main line wont be the limiting factor.


d-a

[Disco Lady]

65 lb braid not me brother.

DL,

[novomarine]

Originally Posted by d-a

Im with you, i use a 4-1 ratio on my breaking strength to drag ratio...however i think what DL suggest is having the heavier line so if you need to go to full drag the main line wont be the limiting factor.


d-a

Ok, that's a good way to think, I personally use the 3-1 ratio.. and on the Tiagra 50 wlrs the max drag is 44 lbs with the strike at 35 lbs, if I have strike set to 20 lbs, so the full will be around 30 lbs... with a 65 lb Momoi braid the breaking point is 75 lbs... thats way over 2-1 at full and over 3-1 at strike...

[d-a]

Originally Posted by novomarine

Ok, that's a good way to think, I personally use the 3-1 ratio.. and on the Tiagra 50 wlrs the max drag is 44 lbs with the strike at 35 lbs, if I have strike set to 20 lbs, so the full will be around 30 lbs... with a 65 lb Momoi braid the breaking point is 75 lbs... thats way over 2-1 at full and over 3-1 at strike...

Yea but the funny thing about braid is it doesnt take a shock load too great and the mono leaders are not that long and dont stretch enough to ease the shock load that can be encountered with a large fish making a sudden surge with the drag locked down.

d-a

[Disco Lady]

[novomarine]

Originally Posted by Disco Lady

ok DL.... we are on for a daytime on Wednesday.... I've already spooled a 30 wide with 30lb braid for you.... let's see what you got.....

[Disco Lady]

What I got was the shaft! last night in that F#@cking Miami Sworfish Tourney I'm done brother no more.


DL,

[weekley rehab]

joe,

I think if you daytime in no current like in keys you may get away with 65, as long as it is a rat, You get a #250 and the surge from it's runs will snap your line right at the rod. I have a tiagra 80 loaded with #80 braid and have landed a few good fish no problems, it also is a good idea to have the more drag from the 80 if you get a donkey on there or you may fight it for days. the bite will be coming on strong next week , get ready

[Disco Lady]