Spinners ?

[Randy]

Gotta ask one more thing then i'll shut up ! I like these fish for the battle . Ive seen fishermen catch Marlin on fly rods, Has anyone tried these fish on a spinner ? Maybe a 9500 Penn with maybe 400 yds of 40 spectra and 100 yds of 40 mono ? Im using MAYBE 12-15 lbs drag on these fish max and I know these reels can hold 15lbs drag and even the 170 didnt take 500 yds so I was wondering has anyone tried it ? I know i'd be in trouble with a really big one but I am sorely tempted to try it ! One possible problem I can see right off is the long blistering run on the drag overheating but ive caught some pretty serious sails and dolphin on these HT 100 penn drags on smaller Penn Reels (6500s etc. ) and they held up. Anyone tried on say a 9500 etc. ? I'd surely like to say i've caught a 150# sword on a spinning reel ! Anyone tried ? succeded ? Failed ? Now i'll shut up for awhile and not bother you guys , for awhile. Randy

[Mike]

Load it a 9500 up with jerry brown and you'll get em. Most of the swords round here are 150 and less, but when you get than slob on, watch out.

You'd have to have a good rod to take the heat of 15lbs of drag for a long time.

Mike

[Randy]

Thanks Mike , If this weather ever lets me Im gonna try it ! If I get one on it i'll post the battle report . Im gonna order a 9500 now and see what I can do about rollering tipping a heavy spinning rod. Gonna have to gimbal it too . Whats "Jerry Brown?" another braid ?

[Mike]

Originally Posted by Randy

Whats "Jerry Brown?" another braid ?

http://www.reelproshop.com/store/ind...th=25_80_92_93

Contact Tek - he is on the forum as Reelproshop. Great prices and great product!

It is a hollowcore spectra that is easy to rig and extreme strong and low diameter.

Mike

[Randy]

Thanks Mike , checkin it out now, shoppin tomorrow . Randy

[Randy]

Hey Mike no info on the Jerry Brown on the link , Im gonna have to research a little more on it, Some familiar with spectra excentricities , Mono into spectra to avoid line slippage on spool , spectra into mono for main line end for a little "stretch" and unlike convential reel any sleeved spectra knots that go through a spinner bail will have to be pretty smooth. Gonna take some engineering , Exactly what I was hopeing for. Couldnt find any specs on link , only showed 80#-, I dont think I wanna go that heavy , 40-50 # ? Need Yards !! Gonna check it out , Thanks again , Randy

[Randy]

Hey Mike Jerry brown VEEERY interesting but only 80# available with diameter of 25 mono would only give me 300 yds . No good , Knots incredible but I need double that yds. Back to Google .... Still lookin , what else am i gonna do STILL rainin . Randy

[CaptKen]

Randy it can be done,A buddy of mine was in the bahamas last week and helped to land a 120 lb yellowfin on 20 lb spin w/ 30 lb mono leader.So it means it wasnt like a billfish tourny where they back down till they get the leader in hand,It had to be fought every inch of the way to the boat.
Look for the article in the up comming Sport Fishing Mag.
Ken

[Deep_Sea_Gull]

Originally Posted by Mike

http://www.reelproshop.com/store/ind...th=25_80_92_93

Contact Tek - he is on the forum as Reelproshop. Great prices and great product!

It is a hollowcore spectra that is easy to rig and extreme strong and low diameter.

Mike

Randy,
This is good advice.
Contact Tek...
He should be able to get you excellent pricing on solid core Line One Spectra. This is the Caddy of Spectra lines. It is soft and supple without the waxes and junk found on other lines.
Check it out here...
http://www.jerry-brown-industries.com/old_welcome.html

Surf the site and you will find that the prices for JB Spectra that Tek offers is tough to beat. Add in that he can give you hands on experience with knots n such and it is a bargin.

That 9500SS is a real warrior. Very capable.

I feel that 60 to 65 lb Spectra is the most that I want on a spinner. My rod will do the job needed.

Do consider that you may be hooked up for an extended period of time. A gimbal butt is needed to use a proper plate. A harness would allow you to fight the fish and be hands free at times. You just need a way to clip the rod to the harness and plate.

HTH

[Randy]

Thanks Guys , IM GONNA TRY IT , The 30 lb mono would really be only 300yds of line, The last fish took more then that. I dont wanna chase the fish i wanna fight it. Im going over to outdoor world and price the reel and then see about getting a heavy gimbled ,aluminum reel seated spinning rod custom set up with a extended foregrip and roller tip . I gotta find out if this "Jerry Brown " comes in a smaller diameter that can go over 40# mono , On the webitete I only see 80#(comparative to 25 mono = only 300yds) Ive been researching it online and it has A LOT of remedies (knotting) for problems with Spectra im familiar with. (And it's reasonably priced) My only worry is Yardage . I gotta have 500 yds ! This idea may not fly guys , Half way through a BLISTERING run this reel may shrapnel but... What a time it will be while it lasts. Were not put on this world for a long time , were put here for A GOOD TIME ! :lol: I think it'll work . Im gonna contact your link , tell him what i intend to do and see what he suggests . Thank You both and know I always appreciate any information you offer. Weather gettin better Ken ! May clear up right in time for you to get out of the dungeon (work) . Hint..Remember I juggle jobs to fish. "Work to live , Dont live to work" I want a 200# fish on a spinner ! Thanks Guys

[FinalPoint]

I'm still trying on the avet 5.1 sx...it is a tiny tiny reel. You can practically put it in your palm and close your hand over it. I have about 500-600 yards of 30 lb braid. I've had a few slashed baits, but never fought one on it.

[CaptainEd]

Hopefully what happened to you wont happen to me. Early on I went out there with my light tackle shit before I had the jack for 50's and 80's and lost some real nice fish. You'll get the average fish on light tackle and lose the slobs. You do the math! Despite what the "experts" say.

[RiskTaker]

Randy:

That idea passes through my mind everytime I go out. I keep thinking that one day a swordfish will come into the light hemi-sphere and perhaps not taking the baits that are set out on the heavier tackle.

But now casting a pitch bait with your heavy spinner and BAM, swordfish on your spinner outifit. Use what you've got, but the drags on the conventional reels should be your first choice.

Like D_S_G mentioned for your situation, you will have to go with Solid core spectra instead of Hollow core. I believe that that smallest test JBHC spectra is 80#. Take a look at the price first, :shock: It is more costly than the HC 130 #.

If you follow any of the other threads, TEK knows his stuff and has been promoting the Jerry Brown spectra lines for several years now and he has also offered to be very helpful for ones needs. Perhaps even check out a Rod and reel outfit by asking him.

[Randy]

Spinner scoop ! Almost there Guys.
I searched high and low for a Penn 9500 brand new but two years OLD! It turns out you have to get one that old because thats when they had brass gears . After 7-8 shops lookin I found one new dusty four year old/new one used on a display shelf and bought it after opening it up and checkin for BRASS gears. ! GOT IT! Finally ,No aluminum gears ! I am having 500yds of Powerpro wound on and then twin Bimini twists with some kind of dacron "wrap" supposed to be 100% With 100+ yds of Ande 50# mono top shot. Needless to say this was beyond my knowledge to do, I usually try to do stuff myself but this skill was out there! Thats 600+yds . Next , rod hunting and Guys if you try to buy a rod for a 9500 spinner for spectra line to catch swords it's an uphill battle , Your fixin to get some pretty weird looks ! (bring a camera) After gettin a lot of "theres no such thing" . I found one . I stumbled on a "Offshore Angler" from Outdoor world with ceramic Fugi guides, long foregrip and slick butt , stouter then my conventional rods but has a junky plastic gimbal which i'll have to change but much less modification then I thought I was gonna have to do right away. ( we'll see) It was THE ONLY one in all those rods they had. I think it's so weird it just never sold but it is almost exactly what i was looking for.( thought I was gonna have to go custom) Final cost all done right around 400 bucks . (little steep for a spinning outfit?)This is a weird lookin rig guys! :shock: The shop will have Everything done by Tuesday and go together and hopefully i'll be posting some pics of big swords caught on a spinning rod soon. :lol: My friend says it's gonna shrapnel on the first fish ! I say If it does it'll be worth every dime for the experience. If it doesnt i'll have caught a sword on a spinner. To Finalpoint , There's all kinds of things in the past that "can't be done" Until someone does it Buddy. You Go for it ! You don't lose until you quit ! And If you see a guy out there with a BIG UUUGLY spinning outfit holding on for dear life with one hand while dragging his hand on the spool as a big brute tries to burn the drag out of a SPINNER It's just me , havin the time of my life ! Gettin the fish isn't important , It's about the journey not the destination . WEATHERS CLEARIN ! , Next week ...ZEBCO! :lol: Randy

[Deep_Sea_Gull]

Your outlook is very refreshing Randy.
I'll be one to wish that sword right on ya!
I hope ya get bit soon!
Please do post up the long version of the fight here.
I for one will enjoy reading about your efforts.

PS... I had to get a custom built rod to suit my efforts with a spinner.
Them tooners had better hold on...

[jedi243]

Jerry Brown comes in 30 and 50 lb. ringedhooks.com carries it.(not affiliated) With a 9500 and 50 lb you should be able to get about 500-600 yards of JB on there. One knot I would recommend would be the mid knot to serve the spectra to your leader. If you search for it on google there are some good animations on how to tie it. It will give a nice smooth connection for a wind on without needing a hollow core serve. Silicon Carbide (Sic) Concept guides would be fine for the rod as rollers aren't a must for spectra but if you want to put a roller tip on a spinning rod the Neptune Acid Roller Guide tip would work for a spinner but it may decrease your casting distance. If you go with SiC guides and will be using a 200-300 lb wind on a size 16 tip and terminal guides are a must. A swordfish/big tuna spinning rod has been a project of mine for a while, if you want more info on some parts for building an ultra spinner let me know.

-Jeremy

[Deep_Sea_Gull]

Guy and Annette of ringed hooks are great to deal with. I have had many good experiences with their services and products.

How about a link to the mid knot jedi243? I googled as you suggested. I didn't find any animations.

Depending on line sizes I use....

Uni to uni for common diameters

Albright or yucatan when the mono leader is much thicker than the spectra.

http://www.thaifishingguide.com/fish...ight_knot.html

http://www.leadertec.com/tipsandtech...s_yucatan.html

Plenty of good reading on both these sites.

Question for you jedi234,
how are you going to use a harness/plate with your spinner?

[Randy]

Hey Jeremy , Ultra spinner ? Do you have an idea to beef up the drag on the 9500 to run coler ? Let me know . There is an "adaptor" to harnes a spinner (or any other rod) It wraps around the foregrip and has two connection rings. There's a guy sells them on Ebay , he sells Lumbar supports and he has this adaptor as an accessory . Dont know if it's any good though , havent tried one. I have a gimbal on the spinner and the rest is designed by "Armstrong" :lol: The spinnner is much lighter then the conventionals and I haven't used my harness yet even on the big one. Just didnt take time to put it on. If it had gone longer Id have opted for it , but I think the light spinner will be easier to handle. We'll see. Fish wil tell !

[Randy]

Wednesday Night ! We had 6 hits all on the tip rods, 5 on the 50s and one on the SPINNER ! All threw the hooks but the spinner ran some drag . I can tell you from just these few seconds catching one of these beasts is gonna be a trial ! But I Think it can be done. I'll be happy with anything over 100 #. Gettin close !

[BillyTine]

Good luck Randy, And i wouldn't beleive your friend on saying that reel's gonna shrapnel. It's built by penn in the USA. Solid as a diamond practically indestructible, well atleast from my experiences with them.