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Old 02-28-2008, 08:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Tyrnos 30 or TLD30IIA

Hi,

Trying to choose between the two reels as they are in similar price brackets and pretty similar reels in terms of line capacity and max drag settings.

I want to use the reel for targetting Albacore and bluefin up to around 60lbs, the only thing that worries me about the TLD is that I saw a TLD-25 and didnt like the plastic cog that the drag lever ratchets up as it's like a metal pin and the one I was looking at in a shop and it had signs of the plastic cogs getting damaged. Is this normal, and does the 30IIA use the same system?

I prefer that the Tyrnos has aluminium reinforced sideplates and I'm hoping that for the size of fish mentioned above, I'm hoping the 5.0:1 gear ratio shouldnt be a problem. The advantage of the TLD is that it's a two speed.

Any advice in deciding between the two?
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Old 02-28-2008, 08:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
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If you have the money, consider the Avet reel in that size class. Its a little bit more money but its built like a bull and the drags have unreal power. Its made from machined aluminum, not cast like the Tyrnos, and it actually feels a little lighter.
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I have both and would have to say the Tyrnos (two speed) is MUCH better. I will be dumping my TLD 25's later this year and switching over to the Tyrnos 20's because they are much smother and feel 1000 times more durable. The ratcheting drag lever is a big plus also.
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Make sure that you get a new Tyrnos:

Contact info: Brian Nolte/Shimano National Service Manager - 949/470-4162
SHIMANO UNCOVERS PREMATURE WEAR ON SELECT
TYRNOS 2-SPEED REELS - REPLACEMENT PROGRAM IN PLACE
IRVINE, Calif. 8/22/06 -- Through its on-going quality control process, Shimano has
discovered a possible manufacturing flaw with a limited number of Tyrnos 2-Speed reels,
announces Brian Nolte, Shimano’s national service manager.
“The problem is that a sharp edge on the pinion gear can cause premature wear on
the anti-reverse pawls resulting in an anti-reverse failure,” said Nolte. “This only occurs
if the reel is turned at high speeds - such as when line is put on with a winding machine.
This premature war situation was found on a limited number of reels within three
different production codes.”
Nolte notes that Shimano was able to catch this issue very quickly and has already
replaced its inventory with corrected product. All shipments of the Tyrnos 20II and 20II
two-speed reels to dealers after July 1 do not have this possible problem. However, a
small number of reels did go to market prior to discovery that may have this flaw.
“In order to ensure excellent performance and durability that Tyrnos two-speed
reel are capable of, we are requesting that dealers and anglers return any TYR20II or
TYR30II reel with the production codes of DJ, DK and DL,” Nolte said. “The production
code can be found on a small sticker on the bottom of the reel. Only the first two letters
of the sticker are important - for example, a sticker that reads DL-P, means production
code DL.”
If your reel(s) do not have DJ, DK or DL as the first two letters of the production
code, then the reel does not have the possible flaw and is not covered under this
replacement program. In addition, if the reel does have DJ, DK or DL sticker on the
bottom of the reel foot, but has a second sticker that says “R”, then your reel does not
have the flawed pinion gear and does not fall under this replacement program.
To remedy the situation, Shimano will replace the returned reel at no charge with
a brand new reel and will pay the shipping both directions, notes Nolte. If your reel has
been used, and the sticker has worn off or disappeared, Shimano’s customer service staff
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will be happy to inspect your reel, and if necessary, replace the pinion gear at no charge,
he adds.
Tackle dealers can call their Shimano Call Trade Services toll free at 800/274-
4626 for further detail and to request a return authorization (RA) number. Dealers are
asked to return their entire Tyrnos two-speed inventory with the affected production code
letters with the RA number clearly written on the package and copy of the shipping
invoice inside.
Any angler who has purchased a Tyrnos 20II or 30II are asked to call Shimano’s
customer service department toll-free at 877/577-0600. They will be sent a prepaid
Federal Express shipping label to return the reel. A brand new reel will be sent to them
promptly.
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Dealer returns: 800/274-4626 to request a Return Authorization Number (Return the
affected Tyrnos II reels with the provided RA clearly written on the package and a copy of the shipping
invoice inside)
Angler/consumer returns: 877/577-0600 (Shimano’s customer service with send a prepaid
FedEx shipping label to return any affected for replacement at no charge)
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Looks like the Tyrnos 30 2 Speed for what it offers and the price I think it should be a good fit.

Thanks for the advice
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The problem with TLD's isn't the drag lever failing, it's the reel seat breaking-the-eff-off. Junior had it happen on a 50, as did I. His with a sword, mine with a blue marlin.
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I thought I read somewhere that Shimano have improved the graphite material they use to make the reels now?
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I thought I read somewhere that Shimano have improved the graphite material they use to make the reels now?
I dunno. Mine broke about 4 years ago. The reel was about 5 years old at that time. No idea about Junior's.
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The new Shimanos have an improved reel seat but it still is not metal. they also have better handles and a stronger drag. They will catch big fish but they will also fail occaisionally. Tracy Melton told me that he felt it was when a stand up angler pulled on the reel with his hands while fishing big drag. How did it happen with your reels boboe?
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Standup fighting a blue marlin, harnassed in.
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