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Grander
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Ocean Ridge, Fl
Boat: Venture 34
Best Catch: 300 lb Yellow fin Tuna, Blue Marlin 240 lbs on 30 lb test, 423 lb Swordfish
Occupation: MD
Posts: 1,101
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Does anyone have expertise in this area. I have used Power Pro and SpiderWire and Jerry Brown for trolling and swording and deep dropping but I have yet to put it on a spinning reel. I am getting two new Daiwa Emblem Pros that have good drags and decent capacity and am considering spooling them with 50 or 60 lb braid to be used for casting to dolphin, bottom fishing for snapper and grouper and live baiting to striped marlin. The various braids have different textures and coatings and shapes-Some are stiffer and some more limber. Anyone have knowledge and experience in this area? The stuff is expensive so I;d like to get the best stuff for the application the first time.
Thanks in advance. Richard |
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Lines In
Join Date: Oct 2007
Best Catch: 150 lb striped marlin
Occupation: student - Texas A&M
Posts: 55
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power pro or tuf line.....pp won't dig in like alot of braids do and maintains its coating very well...tuf line is said to be a little stronger"tuffer"....
grant
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Lines In
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands
Boat: Sea Ox
Best Catch: to be determined
Posts: 19
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i use spiderwire for my deep drops and it gives me the highest level of satisfaction but when it comes 2 braided line it not mah specialty.
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Hooked Up
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Austin, TX
Occupation: Alaskan Fishing Guide, Gulf of Mexico Offshore Crew Boat Captain
Posts: 805
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Bajakian, I'll agree that braid on a spinning rod can be tricky. I used spiderwire once, and cut it off after a few uses. Power Pro, on the other hand, works very well on a spinning reel. It doesn't tangle up like the spiderwire does, for whatever reason.
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Hooked Up
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Palm Beach Gardens
Boat: 27' Custom "Sunchaser"
Best Catch: Double slam on 8 kilo spin
Occupation: Yacht Broker
Posts: 308
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I use power pro up in Maine surf fishing for stripers. It will cut the s#*t out of your finger though. I had to go to a mechanical release. As long as you don't cast very hard you'll be ok, but if you plan on winging it you will need a glove or stick with mono.
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Grander
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Richard:
For a time I had my Shimano Spheros setup with Jerry Brown Hollow Core 60#. I really liked how far you could cast with this line. Although it was thin, I did not seem to notice any problems with it digging into your finger. But with a heavy jig and hard casts you may need one of the finger tape widgets or a glove with an enclosed index figure. I guess the only 2 reasons that I chose this line is: 1 - JB actually started making this line strength within just the past couple years. 2 - Spliceability. For the same good reasons I liked the hollow core on my conventional reels. If you had a cutoff anywhere along the length or some sort of abrasion, nip it and slice it together again. 100% strength without having to re-spool. Hint: the 60# is notably more difficult to spice than the 130# test line. The other thing you can do to is to create a built-in wind-on leader: feed in about 3 ft. of monofilament inside the braid. Serve it and you have knotless connection. This would fly over the guides without any particular complaints. Otherwise, just tie good spectra-braid knots. Of course your double-uni or preferred knot would be your option for connecting out on the water. But I am pretty sure the knot will degrade your line strength by some non-trivial percentage. So if you could keep 60# test at 100% and didn't use mono less than an equivalent 60 lb. line, well I guess you now have a swordfish capable rod in a spinner format. Or tuna, cobia, escolar, etc. On the spheros reel, I believe you can get up to 25 lbs. of drag. (Whatever the spec. says, is the number I got on the spring tension test. But you have to really crank down hard on the drag knob to get it. So in all practicality you would typically get about 5 lbs. of drag less than that, because a normal person would not typically crank the drag that tight, for fear of breaking the knob. To me the weak link would be the reel mounting bracket. That would be assuming that you use a robust reel seat on your rod, like aftco Aluminum reel seat, just like Johnny has in his picture posted above. Sadly to say that reel has met its maker as it is now resting on the bottom of the old El Rio Grande, in Bolivia. (A donation to the river gods for the sparing my life.) I did not have a big fish on at the time.
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Hooked Up
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Lighthouse Point, FLA
Boat: Contender 31
Best Catch: 96" x 64"
Occupation: Tackle Ho!
Posts: 570
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Hollowcore will be the easiest on the rod guides and is spliceable. However, that comes with a price.
FINS is looking very attractive these days. They are at the Miami Boat show so stop by their booth and check out the new lines they have. Jerry Brown for the hollowcore... hands down. Jerry Brown's standard braid is good too. -Tek |
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Lines In
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Coast of Florida
Boat: 31 Yellowfin, 23 Dorado
Occupation: www.LightTackleCharters.com
Posts: 62
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I have a lot of experience with braid on spinners for tarpon. One thing I can say for sure is that PowerPro is not even in the running. It is by far the worst braid there is, except for maybe the old fashioned greenspot dacron. It might be cheaper but it is really a poor choice and seems to be fueled by marketing more than favorable characteristics.
There are several real good ones. My personal favorite is the Spiderwire Stealth in hi-vis yellow. What you primarily want in a braid is a high strength per diameter ratio. Sport Fishing Magazine did an in-depth analysis of many of the braids last year and Spiderwire Stealth had one of of the highest strength to diameter ratios. I think suffix had a very good one as well. |
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Grander
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Ocean Ridge, Fl
Boat: Venture 34
Best Catch: 300 lb Yellow fin Tuna, Blue Marlin 240 lbs on 30 lb test, 423 lb Swordfish
Occupation: MD
Posts: 1,101
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Originally Posted by Fishedz
Jerry Brown solid and Sufix solid will cast farther and you will get a better lay and more line on your spool. "well you sold me " Was it the part about the better lay? |
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