Say it like it is:

Broadbill-Pro · 10-30-2009, 07:14 AM

YouTube - Congressman Mike Rogers' opening statement on Health Care reform in Washington D.C.

Harry Klauber · 10-30-2009, 04:25 PM

Vinny,
The good are going to be sacrificed as collateral damage and when you do that to the majority of the population you assure yourself of never getting re-elected for anything again. It's pretty sad that with all the "great minds" in DC they could not come up with a single plan that would leave you alone if you liked what you had but instead want you to become a pawn of the bureacracy with of all things the health and well being of your body, and look who you are being sacrificed for! If it weren't so serious it would almost be laughable. Harry

Broadbill-Pro · 11-03-2009, 11:29 AM

OBAMA · 11-05-2009, 07:51 PM

That's right we don't need any health care reform at all in this country.
We spend twice as much on health care here per person but we are
way down in the list on health metrics like average lifespan and infant
deaths. Every week there are good people raising money for people
who have had terrible accidents and in many cases have health insurance
but still can not afford the bills. A Harvard study in 2005 and other more
recent studies have pointed out that 60% of bankruptcies are related
to medical bills (though this number will now be lower due to real
estate foreclosures+), see
(see Medical bills prompt more than 60 percent of U.S. bankruptcies - CNN.com)
But we don't need health care reform even if proper health care from
birth can save health care $$ in the long-term. Take a look at
Best Jobs in America 2009 - High pay: Median salary - Money Magazine on CNNMoney.com
and what professions are in the top 4 spots for highest median salary?
We should just keep rewarding insurance companies executives with free cruises for throwing sick people out of the hospital and cutting costs.
We don't have the money to take care of sick people in this country, we need the $$$ for our military. Let the sick kids go to the ER and let cash-strapped cities pay for them. It is all about priorities. cheers, O

Disco Lady · 11-05-2009, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Broadbill-Pro

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sammythebu11 · 11-05-2009, 08:00 PM

Arthur, chill, no one here is saying we don't need health care reform, WE DO, we just should not spend one trillion + (I can assure you the + is another zero) in a reform that is going to increase the government and increases taxes during a recession. we could have a reform of only the parts that are needed instead of a total overhaul....
you talk about the children all the time, the bill that is in congress now ELIMINATES the child care programs that exist today by 2013..... I am up to page 1012 of this bill, I can only read it after hours so I doubt I will finish it before the vote on Saturday but I really dislike what I am reading....

weekley rehab · 11-05-2009, 08:44 PM

Well if you live by the Aztec calendar we will not need any health-care .

10-30-2009, 07:14 AM	#1 (permalink)
Broadbill-Pro Grander Join Date: Jan 2006 Best Catch: When I look at a Commercial Fishing Vessel I see 300 million Americans and you only see the Crew Posts: 1,728	Say it like it is: YouTube - Congressman Mike Rogers' opening statement on Health Care reform in Washington D.C.

11-05-2009, 07:51 PM	#4 (permalink)
OBAMA Hooked Up Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 276	That's right we don't need any health care reform at all in this country. We spend twice as much on health care here per person but we are way down in the list on health metrics like average lifespan and infant deaths. Every week there are good people raising money for people who have had terrible accidents and in many cases have health insurance but still can not afford the bills. A Harvard study in 2005 and other more recent studies have pointed out that 60% of bankruptcies are related to medical bills (though this number will now be lower due to real estate foreclosures+), see (see Medical bills prompt more than 60 percent of U.S. bankruptcies - CNN.com) But we don't need health care reform even if proper health care from birth can save health care $$ in the long-term. Take a look at Best Jobs in America 2009 - High pay: Median salary - Money Magazine on CNNMoney.com and what professions are in the top 4 spots for highest median salary? We should just keep rewarding insurance companies executives with free cruises for throwing sick people out of the hospital and cutting costs. We don't have the money to take care of sick people in this country, we need the $$$ for our military. Let the sick kids go to the ER and let cash-strapped cities pay for them. It is all about priorities. cheers, O __________________ You know, they say if you want a friend in Washington, get a dog. Remember that in the end, in some way we are all fishermen.

11-05-2009, 08:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
weekley rehab Hooked Up Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Deerfield Beach Boat: Weekley Rehab contender 33T Best Catch: 250 lb sword , 20lb mutton, 18lb black grouper Occupation: General Manager Posts: 972	Well if you live by the Aztec calendar we will not need any health-care . __________________ God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference.

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10-30-2009, 04:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
Harry Klauber Grander Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Miami Best Catch: Blue Fin Tuna - 1049 Pounds Occupation: Retired USCG Unlimited HP Chief Engineer Posts: 1,089	Vinny, The good are going to be sacrificed as collateral damage and when you do that to the majority of the population you assure yourself of never getting re-elected for anything again. It's pretty sad that with all the "great minds" in DC they could not come up with a single plan that would leave you alone if you liked what you had but instead want you to become a pawn of the bureacracy with of all things the health and well being of your body, and look who you are being sacrificed for! If it weren't so serious it would almost be laughable. Harry

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sammythebu11 Hooked Up Join Date: May 2008 Location: Stuart, FL Boat: Proline 23' Sport Occupation: Network Engineer Posts: 427	Arthur, chill, no one here is saying we don't need health care reform, WE DO, we just should not spend one trillion + (I can assure you the + is another zero) in a reform that is going to increase the government and increases taxes during a recession. we could have a reform of only the parts that are needed instead of a total overhaul.... you talk about the children all the time, the bill that is in congress now ELIMINATES the child care programs that exist today by 2013..... I am up to page 1012 of this bill, I can only read it after hours so I doubt I will finish it before the vote on Saturday but I really dislike what I am reading....

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