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Old 10-19-2009, 09:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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This is so far out of line it is not funny!!!!!!! Even all the Obama supporters on this site have agreed the networks were in the bag for Obama. So Fox does it's job and reports the truth and gets not only shut out but attacked by the admin. If Bush or any other pres shut out and attacked any network news people would scream bloody murder. But Obama is allowed to do this why??????????????????????????????????????????????? ??? They are trying to censor any opinion that does not agree with there own!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you all hear this CENSORSHIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The White House escalated its offensive against Fox News on Sunday by urging other news organizations to stop "following Fox" and instead join the administration's attempt to marginalize the channel.

White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel told CNN that President Obama does not want "the CNNs and the others in the world [to] basically be led in following Fox."

Obama senior adviser David Axelrod went further by calling on media outlets to join the administration in declaring that Fox is "not a news organization."

"Other news organizations like yours ought not to treat them that way," Axelrod counseled ABC's George Stephanopoulos. "We're not going to treat them that way."

By urging other news outlets to side with the administration, Obama aides officials dramatically upped the ante in the war of words that began earlier this month, when White House communications director Anita Dunn branded Fox "opinion journalism masquerading as news."

On Sunday, Fox's Chris Wallace retorted: "We wanted to ask Dunn about her criticism, but, as they've done every week since August, the White House refused to make any administration officials available to 'FOX News Sunday' to talk about this or anything else."

The White House stopped providing guests to 'Fox News Sunday' after Wallace fact-checked controversial assertions made by Tammy Duckworth, assistant secretary of the Department of Veterans Affairs, in August. Dunn said fact-checking an administration official was "something I've never seen a Sunday show do."

"She criticized 'FOX News Sunday' last week for fact-checking -- fact-checking -- an administration official," Wallace said Sunday. "They didn't say that our fact-checking was wrong. They just said that we had dared to fact-check."

"Let's fact-check Anita Dunn, because last Sunday she said that Fox ignores Republican scandals, and she specifically mentioned the scandal involving Nevada senator John Ensign," Wallace added. "A number of Fox News shows have run stories about Senator Ensign. Anita Dunn's facts were just plain wrong."

Fox News senior vice president Michael Clemente said: "Surprisingly, the White House continues to declare war on a news organization instead of focusing on the critical issues that Americans are concerned about like jobs, health care and two wars. The door remains open and we welcome a discussion about the facts behind the issues."
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Can you say CHAVEZ? that's exactly the same policy that exists in Venezuela today... if you are a TV, Radio Station or Newspaper and you are reporting against what the government is saying or doing then they will ostracize you and if you don't stop they WILL shut you down.
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Fox and talk radio are our only un Obama medias left. But they are still pushing the fairness doctrine and other things to cut down on conservative talk radio. Then now they are going all out against Fox news. Again if any other admin did this every one would be up in arms. But because it is Obama no one cares!!!! WTF
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if you had any doubts, here is Anne Dunn confirming that they control the media...
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QQ, Fox only reports the truth...you have been drinking too much of the kool aid again !
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QQ, Fox only reports the truth...you have been drinking too much of the kool aid again !
Come on John I never said that!!!!!!!!!!!

But think about what they are doing. Are they going after CNN.NBC,MSNBC,CBS,ABC??????????? Have those news group always reported the truth and nothing but the truth???????????????? Wait I am getting a shiver up my leg right now!!!! Talk about Kool aid!!!!!
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John-Not sure what your point is here. You are smart enough to know that every news media source has some bias, whether its the NY Times, Wall Street Journal, Palm Beach Post or the Village Voice. Each one has a political and philisophical ideal and their news reports reflect that. NOT ONE is immune to some bias. Ive seen plenty of Pro Obama propaganda published in the NY Times.

So.... because Fox News has a conservative slant, are you suggesting that they can be or should be censored? I'll ask again- Whats your point in this post?
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This has got to be the most underhanded administration that has come to power yet. There is no transparency. Censorship seems to be the name of the game. Maybe the White house will give us GNN (government news network). Then they can report all the BS and Blantant lies as truth. They can`t handle the truth. This sucks and not in a good way.
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Eric's post said Fox does its job and reports the truth( with all due respect that is subject to debate ) and then censored. No one is getting censored...not even Fox. It should be self evident that Fox has engaged in over the top biased reporting on Obama so any suprise that Obama adminstration do not like them. They are entitled to feel that Fox " is not a news organization ". Just look at who owns and runs Fox and their political views.
I recall Presidents and their adminstrations not liking Walter Cronkite, Dan Rather,David Brinkley,Washington Post, N.Y. Times and and others and trying to deny them access and being publicly critical of them. No difference here. Richard, thats my point. Its not censorship.
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Not liking a person is one thing an entire network is wrong. Calling the entire network liar's is wrong!! Come on John I know you can debate well but you have to see what this is. You say Fox is against Obama what about the others? Are they a bit to much for Obama?

I know maybe Soros should buy Fox!! Then we will only get the truth on things!!!
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Well this is from Fox news so it must all be a lie. She really does not like chairman Mao.

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fox news, msnbc , truth.... oxymoron
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When even a leftist battleaxe like Helen Thomas says the White House (Obamas, Axelrod, Emmanuel) is out of line, then you know they really are in the wrong.

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White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs on Tuesday pointed to two top-rated opinion shows on Fox News as the reason why the Obama administration has castigated the network as an illegitimate news organization.

Gibbs weighed in on the controversy after several top White House advisers have gone on other channels to criticize Fox News' coverage of the administration, dismiss the network as the mouthpiece of the Republican Party and urge other news organizations not to treat Fox News as a legitimate news station.

Gibbs said White House officials "render (that) opinion based on some their coverage and the fairness of that coverage."

But asked how Fox News was different from other news organizations, Gibbs mentioned the channel's 5 p.m. and 9 p.m. shows, in an explicit reference to "Beck" and "Hannity" -- even though those two shows represent opinion programming.

Informed that those hours are for opinion programming, Gibbs said: "That is our opinion."

The White House also appeared to stand by its effort to urge other networks to isolate and alienate the channel. Gibbs said Tuesday that it's up to the White House Correspondents Association to decide whether Fox News should continue to be part of the White House pool which covers President Obama.

"I'm not going to delineate for the White House Correspondents Association how the pool is conducted. That's not my job," he said.

The pool, the rotation through which the networks share the costs and duties of White House coverage, represents the most significant interaction among the news channels. Despite the Obama administration's guidance to other channels to disregard Fox News, there are no indications so far from the other networks that the pool relationship will change.

Obama senior adviser David Axelrod on Sunday called on media outlets to join the administration in declaring that Fox News is "not a news organization."

"Other news organizations like yours ought not to treat them that way," Axelrod counseled ABC's George Stephanopoulos. "We're not going to treat them that way."

White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel told CNN on Sunday that Obama does not want "the CNNs and the others in the world (to) basically be led in following Fox."
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This should be a "wake-up" call to ALL news organizations. The goal of this administration is to censor all news and differing viewpoints from the American people. The fact is that just as many dems and independants watch fox news as Republicans.

The proper response by the news community as a whole should be to boycott the administration press conferences to take away the administrations ability to control the news.

If this is not stopped then rest assured that by 2012 anyone (and I do mean anyone) that speaks against the administration will find themselves subjected to IRS audits, loss of gov't contracts / subsidies in business, police investigations or other forms of harrassment.
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If this is not stopped then rest assured that by 2012 anyone (and I do mean anyone) that speaks against the administration will find themselves subjected to IRS audits, loss of gov't contracts / subsidies in business, police investigations or other forms of harrassment.
the white hous house is wrong and should acknowledge the difference between opinion shows and news. in the past newspapers (newyork times)
has been accused by the right of the same things and they have been wrong also. when the right accuse cnbc and cnn of the the same thing they also should acknowledge the difference. but the white house should know and do better. however this last quote above is proof of a place called fantasy island.
keep that up and get ready for another four years.
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QQ, Fox only reports the truth...you have been drinking too much of the kool aid again !
Anyone who says Fox is biased is only looking at Hannity and Beck, both of those shows do not hide the fact that they are to the right as much as Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews or Rachel Maddow are to the left.

O'reilly is split down the middle, he goes out of his way to make sure he stays in the middle and often appears weak for it. He will skirt around an anti-Obama issue like a yellowtail in a chum slick, only nipping at the pieces that can not hook him. He does a great job in regard to corruption outside of Obama issues and defends children and soldiers without hesitation.

Brett Baier and Shepard Smith report the news of the day and Gretta does interviews.

Beck 5pm right wing

Baier 6pm news

Smith 7pm news

O'rielly 8pm balanced

Hannity 9pm right obsessed

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2 hours of right wing agenda on Fox is far less than MSNBC, CNN, CBS, Cspan and every news paper in the Country offer when they blow air up Obama ass.

BTW, the Fox audience is larger than all the above networks combined. The top 3 talk radio shows are Limbaugh, O'reilly and Beck. America has made it's choice about where they believe the truth is being told, anyone who says different has their head in the sand.

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Hmmm...ABC,NBC,CBS,CNN,MSNBC.CSPAN,WALL STREET JOURNAL, and EVERY newspaper in the US biased against Republicans...I think Richard Nixon is back in the house !

WOW, Fox audience is larger than all networks COMBINED and America has made a choice where the trurh is being told...Yep Nixon and the silent majority are back in the house.
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John I don't think you are to far off.
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John -ever since I can remember the press for the most part has embraced liberalism and the Democrats. If you remember differently please correct me.
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the white house is now saying that they are going to take 20,000 troops that were going to be deployed in Afghanistan and use them in the war against foxnews
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Sammy- That may be your best line ever!!!!!
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John -ever since I can remember the press for the most part has embraced liberalism and the Democrats. If you remember differently please correct me.
richard, you don't see the way you sound like the white house.same argument
they are using. seperate the news from opinion. if they embrace dems and effect
elections why in the last 25 years we had more republicans presidents than dems?

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Fred- What argument am I making? I just said that the press is primarily liberal and pro Democrat in this country. There is always a bias to any reporting because it is reported by humans who have a bias of some sort. I truly believe that Obama's win in this past election was due in large part to the bias of the press and their influence on the masses.
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I truly believe that Obama's win in this past election was due in large part to the bias of the press and their influence on the masses.
that argument is made eveytime someone dont like the results.maybe obama
is not what alot of people wanted but the reason he was elected was because the public was tired of eight years of bush. the reason bush was elected is because the public was tired of eight years of clinton. agin if the media control the masses and they are bias to dems explain the last thirty
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has been accused by the right of the same things and they have been wrong also. when the right accuse cnbc and cnn of the the same thing they also should acknowledge the difference. but the white house should know and do better. however this last quote above is proof of a place called fantasy island.
keep that up and get ready for another four years.
Did you see the attack launched on the US Chamber of Commerce today. As I noted in my post there will retributions to company's doing business in the US that do not tote the Obama line. Welcome to "Fantasy Island" tattoo, I mean bigsplash.
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that argument is made eveytime someone dont like the results.maybe obama
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Very simple to explain Fred. Most people in this country still have values!! Most people can see the truth behind the hype!! But like you and Richard said it was anyone but Bush combined with a shiver up Mathews leg!!
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that argument is made eveytime someone dont like the results.maybe obama
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Fred- Are you serious? When Bush beat Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004 he was far from the choice of the liberal media. But those races were close, perhaps because of the media's influence.
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Goodness guys don't you see you sound just like Nixon ? He hated the press and condemened the press to eternal damnation. Guess what? It was what he and others called the liberal biased media that exposed what a crook he and his adminstration were.Yep the Washington Post and later CBS news. Still Republicans call the Post and CBS far left liberals.
It was the media that caused LBJ, a democrat, to not run for reelection as a result of the media's coverage of Vietnam.
It was the media's reporting of Carter's Iran/Embassy crisis that caused Carter(democrat) to lose to Bush 1 .
I continue to find it sad but interesting, that so many Republicans continue to spew out the Nixon liberal media conspiracy garbage. Keep it up and you will insure Obama gets a second term.
Obama won in large measure because folks were fed up with Republican policies and McCain ( a good man ) made a terrible mistake picking Sarah Palin...not because of the media.
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