Bill had a hand in more than just Monica

[Disco Lady]

Hey!( Broadbill Pro) Have a great trip..... Greece is a great place to see.

[quack quack]

Arthur I posted facts,links,etc.I still refer to your guy as Obama and not some other slang.You preach about swift boat tactics then every time you type McCain you but in Mcsame or some thing else bad.You don't want Obama's past brought up or his lack of experience or his documented links and ties to radicals and criminals.You only want to talk about what he is saying and not what he has done.

He is all talk so far.It is like some guy that has read about swordfishing on this site.Then went out and caught a few sailfish.Now he is on here telling you and Vinny how to catch swordfish because we has caught some sailfish and done a lot of reading on here and is now an expert.That is the best way to describe Obama's run for president!!!

[Catch-All]

Quack - too funny! IF this charlatan gets elected (or steals the election through ACORN-registered "graveyard voters"?), I can imagine this happening sometime during his Reign Of Terror.....

"People of Earth! I am President Sailfish! All shall bow down before me or feel my wrath!"



MNeptune - good job mentioning ACORN. Here's a link to a Democrat PUMA site that details ACORN's pernicious, subversive, corrupt, unethical, illegal activities.

ACORN - The Big Picture

Evabody, we should all keep in mind that the PUMA's (Party of Unity My Ass) are Hillary Clinton Democrats, not Republicans. Their justsaynodeal.com website is but one of many anti-Obama sites. Who better to judge someone like Obama and his evil lemmings than fellow Democrats who saw the real side of the Obamites behavior up close & personal for many months on the campaign trail?

[quack quack]

I forgot to add he is a pro sword fisherman because his friends went out and bought him a fancy 36ft CC and lots of gold reels to fish with.We know if he has a nice boat and new fancy reels that must make him a good fisherman!

[firststrike]

I have no use for any democrat. Even if they're "middle of the road" they still have to give an audience to every odd ball disenfranchised worthless wonder of Christ that has ever crawled out from under a rock. The leaders are elitist who condesendingly treat the common man like a mindless child.

[mneptune]

Catch All,

Nice job on the link!! I think we are only beginning to see the tip of the iceberg on all these creeps INCLUDING Obama's part in much of it. He may turn out to be the most corrupt scammer to come across America's doorstep. I hope the GOP is doing alot of heavy duty research and may deliver an October surprise nobody expected. If this Guy takes the Oval office, America is done for.

[firststrike]

I used to work construction in NYC. The "community activist" used to "lead" the "coalition" to the job sight and stand outside 'till we "hired" several of them for the day. They would sit on their a** for eight hours and then they got union wage payed in cash. Half then went to the "worker" and the other half went to the "leader."

[Catch-All]

MNeptune - thanks! I'll try to contribute on here in my usual understated, tactful fashion.


Here's what'll happen at the beginning of Thursday night's VP Debate.

Gov. Sarah Palin will say, "Senator Biden! I thought I detected your foul stench as soon as I arrived. And your puppet master George Soros is behind me."





Folks, if we allow Emperor Obama and his Saul Alinsky/Chicago Machine/ACORN tactics to steal this election, we're gonna need guys like this to stand up to their inevitable socialist/fascist tyranny.



Catch

[mneptune]

Firststirke,

So what does that tell you? It is a way for the organizer to use people to fund their own bullshit and take away from those that want and are willing to work hard for a day's wage. It is a horrible scam perpetuated on American people and companies by those that can't organize anything other than their own crooked way to make a living.

The only thing I can tell you is that if Obama get's the White House it is going to get much, much worse.

You can do what I did. Copy the Acorn link from the above post and email it to as many people as you know, both McCain supporters as well as Obama supporters. People deserve to know the truth.

[mneptune]

Catch,

You kill me sometimes... where do you get all this chit

[firststrike]

A democrat is someone who cuts in front of you in a buffett line and as they're stuffing their face they tell you to hurry up and be considerate of the people behind you.

[Catch-All]

Originally Posted by mneptune

Firststrike,

You can do what I did. Copy the Acorn link from the above post and email it to as many people as you know, both McCain supporters as well as Obama supporters. People deserve to know the truth.

MNeptune - I hope you don't mind but I'd like to add to your idea just a tad further.

It's become common knowledge that Obama's operatives manipulated the entire primary process to their benefit, especially in states that had caucuses instead of straight-up yea or nay primary elections.

Even more important than emailing the mindless Lava-Lamp Luddite lemmings who are Obama supporters, it's imperative to email people that you know were supporters of Hillary Clinton. These people are FURIOUS because they know the primary election was stolen from their candidate. "Screw me over once, shame on you. Screw me over twice, shame on me." Many of the PUMA's from Hillary's wing of the Democrat Party aren't going to allow themselves to get screwed over twice and are voting for the McCain/Palin ticket.

But keep sending emails & links to Hillary Clinton supporters in the hopes that you'll sway one more Democrat voter who is not a PUMA and was going to vote Obama merely out of sheer party loyalty.

Catch

[Catch-All]

Originally Posted by mneptune

Catch,

You kill me sometimes... where do you get all this chit

Ah done gits mah stuff offa this hyar thang called the InterryNet.

[mneptune]

Firststrike,

I kinda, maybe understand where you're coming from but the truth is I have met alot of dems that are as good and hard working as any of the repubs, so I am not quite willing to throw everyone into one group. Although I am a republican I am pretty moderate and I take people for who they are and not any affiliation regarding political party, race, religion, etc. When I first heard Obama, I said here's a guy that might actually have something worth listening too; but then I started researching him and his current, (although he suggests past), affiliations.

We all have known one or two bad eggs in our lifetime but that does not mean we are bad; so I was willing to have an open mind. Folks it doesn't take a whole lot of researching to see we are not talking about one or two bad eggs here, we talking about entire chicken farms worth of bad eggs.
Don't take my word for it, just research it yourself; if you want to vote for the guy, then vote for him. But if you really research him, you will uncover REAL facts like I did and it just isn't pretty. Are you willing to risk you're future, your families future, America's future on somebody with his baggage.

Remember, back in the day, Hitler was considered charasmatic, a great speaker, a great leader and we all now how that turned out. (And no... Obama's not Hitler....hmmm, or is he?) I'll play the safe solid bet... McCain/Palin.

After all, anything is better than Bush.

[mneptune]

Catch,

I can't be sure of this and I know that Hillary and Bill are mildly stomping for Obama but I can't help from seeing interviews and speaches from them that when that voting curtain draws closed that they might just be casting their votes for the McCain ticket.

Could be wrong but I hope not..

[TTesterman]

first off have fun on your trip! second ..People are crazy now and it's getting down to vote day...oh my!!! whats the difference between a democrat and a dead misquito??? the misquito quits sucking!!! behind 90% of all $ nowdays involves somewhat of a crime! ...unless your working your ass off and paying taxes.. goverment still spends and still we do nothing about the real problems and we have not got the sence to meet up somewhere and figure it out... sorry sack of people we are... and everyone still has to vote for the best of the country and hope the guy up next can do the job. but most problems we have are local commisiojers and goverment that has got to change also.. and down to our own families!!! yep we are men and women... do whats right and treat people right... your kids will make it better also ...if you do!

[mneptune]

Originally Posted by TTesterman

first off have fun on your trip! second ..People are crazy now and it's getting down to vote day...oh my!!! whats the difference between a democrat and a dead misquito??? the misquito quits sucking!!! behind 90% of all $ nowdays involves somewhat of a crime! ...unless your working your ass off and paying taxes.. goverment still spends and still we do nothing about the real problems and we have not got the sence to meet up somewhere and figure it out... sorry sack of people we are... and everyone still has to vote for the best of the country and hope the guy up next can do the job. but most problems we have are local commisiojers and goverment that has got to change also.. and down to our own families!!! yep we are men and women... do whats right and treat people right... your kids will make it better also ...if you do!

OK, that mosquito comment is pretty damned funny, (and correct ).
You are correct about how money turns even the most pious person bad, but do not feel like you are not doing everything you can. The fact is that the vast majority of Americans are so beat up from getting up early, taking care of the kids, going to work and stressing all day, coming home to cook, clean and take care of home and finances... that we are so tired that most of us simply can't do anymore; we crash hard, fall asleep and start the same routine again the next day, (and if there is a God, we hope that we may be able to take just one day every week or two to go and do a little fishing to regenerate ).

We can't lose focus though; I too, thought I 'll never make a damned bit of difference with our corrupt politicians but something sure happened; I as well as millions of other Americans called our Representatives and bitched and because they were fearful of losing their jobs in the next election they put our voices up front. Now it looks like this next package will be a better deal but we'll see. At any rate we can only do what we can do and in the end let the pieces fall where they may. Looking forward to when this election is over and times hopefully get better for all of us.

[firststrike]

I'm a moderate too, that's why I vote for republican. Way too many radicals with the democrats. (I could almost guarantee you that every PETA member votes democrat) Democratic leaders have 99% of their sheep hoodwinked. Every time I have a discussion with a democrat they seem to stamp their feet and they don't want to hear a thing you have to say.(But God forbid if you don't listen to them. Then you're not "enlightened" as they are.) Republicans don't walk on water, but democrates think they can.

[mneptune]

Originally Posted by firststrike

I'm a moderate too, that's why I vote for republican. Way too many radicals with the democrats. (I could almost guarantee you that every PETA member votes democrat) Democratic leaders have 99% of their sheep hoodwinked. Every time I have a discussion with a democrat they seem to stamp their feet and they don't want to hear a thing you have to say.(But God forbid if you don't listen to them. Then you're not "enlightened" as they are.) Republicans don't walk on water, but democrates think they can.

Well said.....

Let me share something with all of you. I am not trying to be philosphical, religeous or enlightned and I am not quoting anyone other than my inner thought; I learned something long ago; you can call it what you you want but please think about this....

"The true mark of any HUMAN BEING is not how we enrich ourselves but how we enrich the lives of those around us" Do you want to live forever? then make a difference in someone else's life and you will"

It is not only simple but just plain common sense; do what is right for everyone and not just yourself; don't listen to people that say they have all the answers, (they don't), just stand up for you're honor and principles and we will all do just fine!!! Lastly, if it sounds to good to be true it is, so be suspicous, very suspicous...

Again, just my .02 (but what do I know)

[mneptune]

PU, sorry I mean PO,

I still find it amazing that there are some "educated" people that can't see the forest through the trees. But what the hell; what is going to happen is going to happen.... just remember, be careful what you wish for.....

After the election and a few years from now I will freely admit if I was wrong, but if I am right will you admit you were wrong or will you just disappear like so many other voices? Get ready for the "almighty" government where freedom of speech is beaten down and hopes and dreams are controlled by others who have their (sorry, I mean our) best intentions at heart.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely, I think somebody else said that before.....

[mneptune]

Professor O,

As far as diverisity, I am all for it. It is what makes America not only so strong and wonderful but beautiful. I do not know if I had mentioned this on this site before, but neither myself nor my extended family was born in this country. We immigrated here when I was just a few years old, (by the way Pro O, my father was a scientist, had three Phd's and was fluent in nine languages and was sent here by a multi-national corporation but we still had to jump through hoops to gain citizenship; not float up on a raft and say Amreica, America and we got in!), so don't assume that I do not know the struggles of being someone new and different to this country and who does not know the struggles of being a immigrant. I am as far from an elitist as they come, so before you diss me thinking that I have been here for generations and that I am entitled to more than others, think again.

Fact is we are all here, like it or not; so lets work together to make this country great for everybody based on the principles this country was founded on. Let's help those less fortunate than ourselves but also realize that a helping hand does not mean a perpetual hand out; and that each of us needs to pull our weight not only for ourselves but for the benefit of everybody. Period!!

Almost insulting is the term democrat which does not even begin to conform to the word Democracy, if it did we would not be having voter fraud at the hands of the democrats!!!.

[Catch-All]

[QUOTE=mneptune;93346]
Remember, back in the day, Hitler was considered charasmatic, a great speaker, a great leader and we all now how that turned out. (And no... Obama's not Hitler....hmmm, or is he?) I'll play the safe solid bet... McCain/Palin. QUOTE]

MNeptune - don't forget, Hitler was a damned Vegetarian too, like PETA people are. Both Hitler and PETA-ites are very similar. Self-righteous, intolerant, shrill, dogmatic, mendacious.

Professor O - it's South Jersey humor. There's a big difference.

Catch

[mneptune]

Sorry Catch,

No harm no foul, ok? I admit I can be a little dramatic and "dogmatic" too. But my biggest fault, admitted openly here, is that I can be very sarcastic. I am not trying to envoke any bad feelings with my ocean, fishing loving brothers. Things have just gotten to a point that for once, I am really pissed off on the direction this country is going in. As i said I wasn't born here but I love it too much not to say something when it finally strikes a chord.

To Professor O, I do not mean any insult to you our your family,. nor anyone else that is voting for Obama, so if you disagree, please chime in; I am not close minded. Like I said, I can't wait for this shit to be over with. More than happy to share my boat with any of you including Porfessor O, believe it or not he would probably like me.

I lived in Jersey too for a few years... Morristown area though.. but grew up in up state New York... ok, everybody can hate me now

Sorry folks, Although I was raised here, I was brought up with tradional Euorpean values, which is why I can be an asshole at times .

[Harry Klauber]

To all that have taken the time to speak their thoughts and minds on this thread.

I respect both sides of the issues and say this in the best of spirits to those that I know and those that I do not know. We are entrenching ourselves in debate over an election that a vast majority of the people that will be voting in have little, or no, idea what the really important issues are. Look at what just happened with the bailout bill when people were misinformed. From the comments less than a week ago about how constituents felt about the bill via phone and e-mail it was said 50/50 - 50% NO AND 50% HELL NO. Now all of a sudden that main stream America realizes that it is really about them, and not just Wall Street, the swing has gone to YES AND HELL YES when just a week ago it was the exact opposite. Amazing how people change their views when it's explained to them that their credit cards could be useless if nothing is done. The senate was able to muster an almost 3:1 vote for passage. Now the house will follow when in reality most of what stopped them on the first vote was fear of disapproval for their YEA and not getting re-elected, which by the way is their primary job from the day they are elected. We should all make no mistake about that. No matter how you feel we will all have to live with the outcome of the election but for now --

I think we all need to go fishing, and really soon!!! It does wonders to make you forget about alot of the things that are bothering you, and some of the things that we worry about that never happen. It's one of the reasons that I enjoy it so much as I am sure most do. Harry

[mneptune]

Thanks Harry.... Amen Brother.. Something tells me you are a reasonable, thoughtful person.

[mneptune]

Originally Posted by ProfessorO

mneptune, I don't think I dissed you in my post.
If I did, m apologies. My diversity remark was aimed at your (and others) statements about ACORN, not you. cheers, arthur

No worries,

No harm no foul. I love diversity too!! I believe it is what makes our country as strong as it is, and will become further. I just want everybody to have the facts and make an informed descison. If I am wrong about Obama and my view I will most certainly admit it later. Just have the same courtesy for our opinon as well and realize that maybe. just maybe, not everyone is as they seem. All the more reason to research ALL of these crooks to really figure which is the lesser of two evils. Pretty sad huh?

In the famous words of some guy in California, "Can't we all just get along"

Strength through diversity and honor above all else.


Cheers as well

[Catch-All]

MNeptune - not to worry. I agreed with your post 100% and was only adding onto your post and taking it a little further with the Hitler/Vegetarian thing to get people to start thinking to themselves that if Hitler was a Vegetarian and he was an asshole, maybe the modern-day PETA Vegans trying to cram tofu down our throats are fascist assholes too.

Happy Wednesday,

Mark
Catch-All

[firststrike]

One of the first thinks Hitler did was take away private gun ownership. He thought hunting was cruel, but ovens for people is ok. It reminds me of a die hard democrat at work who thinks abortion is just fine, but when I hunt some tick infested deer who destroyed a farmers crop I'm a cold blooded SOB. How can I be so mean? I guess I'll just chuck baby's into garbage cans from now on. At least Bambii will be alive to make another movie. Obamamon is anti-gun. Lets us start carving up the Constitution now while we're at it. Remember, Oprahs bitch knows what's best for you.

[quack quack]

Arthur I understand your running joke but it is still swift boat. so to speak.I am not willing to bet on my country's future on a guy just because he is charismatic and an intellectual.The fact that he can inspire people is great as long as it is not to run them off a cliff. as others have said so was Hitler,Castro,Mussolini,Hussein,Khomeini. They all came to power with the same platform as Obama.The platform of change is not always good.

[firststrike]

Because Hitler was a seedy SOB too.