live bait-vs-squid

just2fish · 07-04-2006, 12:36 PM

i was curious, if catching bigger (200# and up) swords is more frequent with live bait vs dead or squid. tek, what were you using at the "swordlight" tourney. my last trip we hooked the biggest so far. dont know how big it was cause it was disrespecting my employee all over the back of the boat. i knew he was done when the fish had him pinned to the gunnel with only 15# of drag. i should have taken a pic of the defeated angler it was pretty cool. that was the same time he pulled the hook and we lost him. the only bait i have fished so far is squid.

Relentless33 · 07-04-2006, 12:41 PM

We have had live tinkers and never got hit on any of them. We mainly use squid. Come wintertime we will certainly try for the tinkers because there are more of them and that is "the preffered bait"

The BEAST · 07-04-2006, 01:09 PM

just2fish,

I can honestly tell you that when I was fishing live gogs as well as dead squid my ratio was 50/50. I've caught fish on both equally. Matter of fact, I had a "jumbo" hooked up on an artificial squid drifted just like a natural. We estimated the weight at @250 but like you we pulled the hooks after 2 hours. :shock:

I now fish only artificial and dead squid because it cuts back the time factor in preparing for a nice sword outing. Outcome seems to be the same.

Capt. Jim
The BEAST

Captain Ollie · 07-04-2006, 10:04 PM

It definitely doesn't hurt to have at least a couple of live baits in the spread as some nights the fish seem to have a preference for sure. No matter what the live bait, however, your hook up ratio will improve substantially if you trim the tail. (I'm not talking about a little bit either here, but just how much to trim varies according to species.)

Relentless33 · 07-05-2006, 10:18 AM

What about live squid, I haven't tried it but a friend of mine has the tool to catch them

Ron.38 Special · 07-05-2006, 06:43 PM

Match the hatch is always the best start, right? If tinkers are around, better fish a few of them.

Best spread had livies and squid, often the livies in the spread will trigger a fish to hit a squid when it can't catch the livies.

The BEAST · 07-05-2006, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relentless33

What about live squid, I haven't tried it but a friend of mine has the tool to catch them

Speaking of live squid. Since my sleep schedule is all messed up from this Sword Fishing stuff, I was up the other night and watching the Discovery Channel. They were showing a film of the Humboldt Squid and I was thinking, HOLY CRAP!, I can't imagine the size of the Swordfish that would eat that.

Things that make you say, Hmmmmmmmmm!

Capt. Jim
The BEAST

woody · 07-05-2006, 07:30 PM

We have fished live bait, and squid many of times.
And we have noticed that almost every one of are big fish have been on the squid.
Including one that was 500+ that was lost at the boat after 8 hours.
But its always good to have a varied spread.

Good Luck

07-04-2006, 12:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
just2fish Hooked Up Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: haulover Boat: parker 2520, 225 yamaha 4 stroke Best Catch: latin female, brown hair, 5-4 120 lbs Occupation: window tinter Posts: 546	live bait-vs-squid i was curious, if catching bigger (200# and up) swords is more frequent with live bait vs dead or squid. tek, what were you using at the "swordlight" tourney. my last trip we hooked the biggest so far. dont know how big it was cause it was disrespecting my employee all over the back of the boat. i knew he was done when the fish had him pinned to the gunnel with only 15# of drag. i should have taken a pic of the defeated angler it was pretty cool. that was the same time he pulled the hook and we lost him. the only bait i have fished so far is squid. __________________ life's short... fish hard...

07-04-2006, 12:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
Relentless33 Grander Join Date: Apr 2006 Best Catch: 81" sword Posts: 3,019	We have had live tinkers and never got hit on any of them. We mainly use squid. Come wintertime we will certainly try for the tinkers because there are more of them and that is "the preffered bait" __________________

07-04-2006, 10:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
Captain Ollie Hooked Up Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Davie Florida Boat: 28 foot Kevlacat Best Catch: Strippers/Barely Legal Cheerleaders Occupation: Commercial tropical fish collector, lobster diver, bouy gear fisherman, 100ton captain Posts: 596	It definitely doesn't hurt to have at least a couple of live baits in the spread as some nights the fish seem to have a preference for sure. No matter what the live bait, however, your hook up ratio will improve substantially if you trim the tail. (I'm not talking about a little bit either here, but just how much to trim varies according to species.) __________________ Remember that house you, or maybe your neighbor couldn't pay for? Well, now your gonna pay for it!!

07-05-2006, 10:18 AM	#5 (permalink)
Relentless33 Grander Join Date: Apr 2006 Best Catch: 81" sword Posts: 3,019	What about live squid, I haven't tried it but a friend of mine has the tool to catch them __________________

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07-04-2006, 01:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
The BEAST Charter Captain Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Miami Boat: 2007 WorldCat 330TE / 300 Suzuki's Best Catch: every catch is my best catch Occupation: charter captain Posts: 955	just2fish, I can honestly tell you that when I was fishing live gogs as well as dead squid my ratio was 50/50. I've caught fish on both equally. Matter of fact, I had a "jumbo" hooked up on an artificial squid drifted just like a natural. We estimated the weight at @250 but like you we pulled the hooks after 2 hours. :shock: I now fish only artificial and dead squid because it cuts back the time factor in preparing for a nice sword outing. Outcome seems to be the same. Capt. Jim The BEAST

07-05-2006, 06:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
Ron.38 Special Hooked Up Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 235	Match the hatch is always the best start, right? If tinkers are around, better fish a few of them. Best spread had livies and squid, often the livies in the spread will trigger a fish to hit a squid when it can't catch the livies.

07-05-2006, 07:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
woody Lines In Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: lake worth Boat: fishing and diving Occupation: self Posts: 18	We have fished live bait, and squid many of times. And we have noticed that almost every one of are big fish have been on the squid. Including one that was 500+ that was lost at the boat after 8 hours. But its always good to have a varied spread. Good Luck

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