we need leaders like this in america

[weekley rehab]

T. B. Bechtel, a City Councillor from Newcastle , Australia , was asked on
a local live radio talk show just what he thought about the allegations
of torture of suspected terrorists. His reply prompted his ejection from
the studio, but generated thunderous applause from the audience.

HIS STATEMENT: 'If hooking up one raghead terrorist prisoner's testicles
to a car battery to get the truth out of the lying little camelshagger
will save just one Australian life, then I have only three things to say,'
'Red is positive, black is negative, and make sure his nuts are wet.'

[Harry Klauber]

Whoa - now that certainly leaves no doubt about how he feels. Harry

[quack quack]

very nice!!

[ballyhu]

[mneptune]

Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Hoy, Hoy, Hoy!!

[Capt. JJ]

I wonder how he really feels. Maybe try it on himself first...

[Harry Klauber]

JJ,
How he feels is pretty clear - no need to experiment on himself. Harry

[weekley rehab]

talking like that he most likely has ! they are a crazy bunch outlawed all guns, outlawed fireworks.

[bigsplash]

Americans are above that. thats why we are americans and they are not.

[Pourbaix22]

This is phenomenal and BIGSPLASH he is simply expressing his freedom of speech which we clearly do not have any longer in this country! Australians are role models to the rest of the world in every sense! G'day

[Certifiable]

Yeah baby....let them "Ride the Lightning" to the promised land.

[sf_surfr]

Originally Posted by bigsplash

Americans are above that. thats why we are americans and they are not.

You must not know anyone who has been killed overseas. If you had then I am sure your demeanor would be different. I lost one of my best friends last time I was in A-stan and therefore I have absolutely no remorse for any one of those terrorist scumbags who are in custody and having certain things done to them. All I can say is that we treat them at least a million times better than any US or US allie that has been captured by terrorists. Just think of all those people that had their heads cutoff within the past few years. It ain't over yet bro.

Maybe our politicians need to take a hint from this Aussie. He obviously cares about his troops more than he cares about the direction his career would go if a few spineless liberals didn't like his comment. He demonstrated that when he said the words posted above. I applaud him for having the balls to say how he actually feels.

Dave

[maverick18b]

[bigsplash]

[QUOTE=sf_surfr;118482] He obviously cares about his troops more than he cares about the direction his career would go if a few spineless liberals didn't like his comment. .


SF,i served in the first gulf war (desert storm). i have no sympathy for them either. my emotions tell me i would want their heads cut off in return.and
if it was someone i loved, i would want to do the head cutting. but i have been around long enough to know my emotions does not produce the best results at times.we just simply disagree,lets stop labeling(spineless liberals)
because mccain who we all agree is a war hero, disagree with torture and calls water bording torture. is he a spinless liberal? trust me when i say im one that practice if you smack me i will smack you back two times. it's just as the policy of this great country i think we should be above the trash that do those things. it is our morals that make us great. that is why we are americans.now what troops do on the battle field to stay safe is i'm ok with
(hey i was their). we should not announce that as american policy.

[ameristrat]

'If hooking up one raghead terrorist prisoner's testicles
to a car battery to get the truth out of the lying little camelshagger
will save just one Australian life, then I have only three things to say,'
'Red is positive, black is negative, and make sure his nuts are wet.'

Okay, so I don't want to be a terrorist in Australia...

[sf_surfr]

[QUOTE=bigsplash;118637]

Originally Posted by sf_surfr

He obviously cares about his troops more than he cares about the direction his career would go if a few spineless liberals didn't like his comment. .


SF,i served in the first gulf war (desert storm). i have no sympathy for them either. my emotions tell me i would want their heads cut off in return.and
if it was someone i loved, i would want to do the head cutting. but i have been around long enough to know my emotions does not produce the best results at times.we just simply disagree,lets stop labeling(spineless liberals)
because mccain who we all agree is a war hero, disagree with torture and calls water bording torture. is he a spinless liberal? trust me when i say im one that practice if you smack me i will smack you back two times. it's just as the policy of this great country i think we should be above the trash that do those things. it is our morals that make us great. that is why we are americans.now what troops do on the battle field to stay safe is i'm ok with
(hey i was their). we should not announce that as american policy.

Fair enough Bigsplash, sometimes when I read certain things I just get fired up. I have been over there 3 times so far and I think that might be the reason I get all bent out of shape sometimes. I don't think McCain is a spineless liberal and he can definately speak of torture better than most if any. But I do think there are alot of people that don't understand the severity of the situation overseas and sometimes what it takes to get the job done isn't always pretty. You know the deal.

cheers,

Dave

[Blackout]

Bigsplash, sf surfr, and all of the other guys on here who served:

THANK YOU

[sammythebu11]

[QUOTE=bigsplash;118637]

Originally Posted by sf_surfr

He obviously cares about his troops more than he cares about the direction his career would go if a few spineless liberals didn't like his comment. .


SF,i served in the first gulf war (desert storm). i have no sympathy for them either. my emotions tell me i would want their heads cut off in return.and
if it was someone i loved, i would want to do the head cutting. but i have been around long enough to know my emotions does not produce the best results at times.we just simply disagree,lets stop labeling(spineless liberals)
because mccain who we all agree is a war hero, disagree with torture and calls water bording torture. is he a spinless liberal? trust me when i say im one that practice if you smack me i will smack you back two times. it's just as the policy of this great country i think we should be above the trash that do those things. it is our morals that make us great. that is why we are americans.now what troops do on the battle field to stay safe is i'm ok with
(hey i was their). we should not announce that as american policy.

It is not my intention to hijack this post but I have to make this comment
I see a pattern on your posts, every time someone says something about something that you don't agree with you turn it right back and ask if the other guy is also the same. TWO examples:
when I said that this administration is socialist you came right back with, and I quote, "Is Bush a socialist?" not once, not twice but three times, now you don't like something about "spineless liberals" and then you come back with "Is McCain a spineless liberal?"
maybe your nickname bigsplash has something to do with that, you always splash back whatever they throw at you.....
Attacking back with the same premise is an old technique of people who don't have arguments to defend their point. So, they resort to attack the other person in order to deviate from the original point. It would be nice if you just defended your point without attacking..... but I guess when there is no defense we just attack.
going back to the point, these people have openly said that they want to ERADICATE us from the face of the earth, that they will not rest until we are GONE, are you going to be nice to them? are you going to try to reason with them? the only way these animals will respect us is if they are AFRAID (VERY AFRAID) of us, not if we try to be their friends, their only friends are the people who are against us. If you think that all the politics are going to solve this issue then you need to take a look at the Arab-Israeli conflict, they have been at it for 4000+ yrs and no matter what they do, they always end up saying that they want to eradicate the israelis, so what makes you think we are going to change a 4000year old mentality? why do you think they have not eradicated the israelis? because the israelis attack them every time their intelligence shows that they are about to be attacked or because the israelis retaliate with 10 times the force they were attacked by the fanatics.
look at the fanatic they released from Guantanamo a while back, he is right at the heart of the taliban attacking our troops once again, if we would have FRIED his balls like the australian PM recommended and gotten all the information we should have gotten from him, one, we would have probably dismantled his cell, and two, he would think twice about doing it again....

[bigsplash]

sammy, come on re-read my post. you are no dummy you know that was not an attack.when someone try to label you they tend to loose the agrument because they don't argue the facts.if a black and white guy have a disagreement and the black guy calls racism, the conversation goes down hill.
argue the facts not label someone. i just pointed out that some republicans
(mccain) don't support torture. its ok if you disagree with our point but
why the label? argue the facts. by the why sammy big splash comes from
the sound i heard before my first sail started peeling line.

[sammythebu11]

Dude, nothing personal, just pointing the fact that you try to steer the conversation away from the point by making the other side look like what the other person is saying (with the same words). you know very well that Bush is not a socialist and McCain is not a spineless liberal, you are just making those comments because you don't have arguments to validate your point.
again, nothing personal, but if you are bringing out a point, bring facts not distractions.
McCain does not support torture probably because he went through it and knows how much a person suffers during torture, I have the ultimate respect for him because he is a person who sacrificed everything for his country without any selfishness and he is still one of the few in Washington who is looking to make this country better not make his buddies or his bank account bigger.

I apologize if my comment about your nickname offended you, didn't mean to label you.

Sam