SFC Fishing Forums http://www.swordfishingcentral.com/forum/ Saltwater Fishing Forum and Community Including Deep Sea and Big Game Fishing Talk. en Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:51:41 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.swordfishingcentral.com/forum/images/sfc/misc/rss.jpg SFC Fishing Forums http://www.swordfishingcentral.com/forum/ 11-20 Anyone going out to the darkside? http://www.swordfishingcentral.com/forum/swordfishing/16870-11-20-anyone-going-out-darkside.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:55:11 GMT who will be on the 50 yard line tonight? who will be on the 50 yard line tonight? ]]> Swordfishing DonK http://www.swordfishingcentral.com/forum/swordfishing/16870-11-20-anyone-going-out-darkside.html Swordfishing Guam http://www.swordfishingcentral.com/forum/swordfishing/16869-swordfishing-guam.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:35:33 GMT Id like to try the depths at night in Guam for swordfish, despite having almost zero expertise in the area. I did some drift fishing at night in... Id like to try the depths at night in Guam for swordfish, despite having almost zero expertise in the area. I did some drift fishing at night in panama with handlines, whole squid and cyalumes down 120-300', no luck.

My fishing in Guam is generally daytime trolling and jigging, with some bottomfishing, similar to the deep drop technique. 4-6 Circle Hooks with bait and a 4lb lead. It works well for snapper and grouper.

There are swordfish here, for they are almost never fished for by the locals. Almost zero pressure. Occasionally someone will bring one in, but there is a large commercial fishery for them far, far offshore.

This time of year Im looking at air temps 76-96 degrees night/day, with a surface water temp of 82-85. I dont know much about whats under the surface. The charts we have here are terrible, scale of 1:100,000 or larger, with depth soundings sometimes miles apart. There are a few shallow reefs to the south, coming up to 30' from 6000 or more. Pinnacles really. To the north however is a large bank, 15 miles across with depths to 1000' rising from 4000'. Not too many trenches or canyons unless you count the Marianas Trench and Nero Deep just 60 miles offshore to 36,000'. Guam is unique in the fact you can fish in water 1000' deep a half mile from shore and we have blue marlin and YFT swimming in our harbors. The northern bank is where I'd probably go, because Id be fishing there during the daytime.

Trade winds 15-25kts from the east, currents variable, but that area isnt known as the 'washing machine' for nothing, you get a 6-8' swell with 4-6' wind waves as a nice chop on top, even higher with currents. Id have to take a sea sock, even so Id probably by doing 1-2 kts.

Lots of bait. Skipjacks mostly, they are easy to catch during the day. I heard there is good squid fishing at night too. In addition to swords, Id probably have a hard time keeping the sharks off the bait, so a wire leader would be necessary. Nobody fishes here with live bait for pelagics because of the sharks. Large dogtooth and other tuna with a possible marlin as bycatch. I have two 50lb class outfits and an 80, all spooled with lots of 80lb braid.

Rig would be 8' 300lb test mono leader, with a 1' wire trace and a circle hook I can hang a dead skipjack or squid on. I got plenty of cyalumes. I have a large floodlight on the boat but I cant run it all night, just enough to get the gear set up and attract some squid. I also have a fairly competant depthsounder, color garmin 200/50 with 1500kw output to 1500 feet.

Im interested in testing it out, gotta do something at night lol. Ill be heading out on the 18th. Id welcome any advice. ]]> Swordfishing the codfather http://www.swordfishingcentral.com/forum/swordfishing/16869-swordfishing-guam.html Another OU Realtime Islamorada fishing report http://www.swordfishingcentral.com/forum/southeast/16868-another-ou-realtime-islamorada-fishing-report.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:34:08 GMT Just in....realtime audio report from Captain John Oughton on That's Right out of Islamorada, FL. Two hours in and already two sailfish bites, some muttons & kings.

We'll update this as the day progresses.

Check it out here....Islamorada Fishing Report ]]> Southeast OU Sportfishing http://www.swordfishingcentral.com/forum/southeast/16868-another-ou-realtime-islamorada-fishing-report.html Work Irony.... http://www.swordfishingcentral.com/forum/off-topic/16867-work-irony.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:40:26 GMT A gynecologist waits for his last patient that doesn't arrive ...
After 45 min., Assuming she will not show up, resolves to have a gin and tonic to relax before returning home.
he is sitting comfortably in a chair and starts reading the newspaper when the doorbell rings.
his patient arrives in a hurry and apologizes for the delay:
- It doesn't matter, replied the doctor. I was having a gin and tonic waiting to go home, do you want one to relax?
- I accept with pleasure ... - The patient responds with relief.
He serves a drink and sits in front of her and they start talking.
Suddenly he hears a key in the door to the clinic.
The startled doctor stands up and says:
- My wife !!!..., quick, take off your clothes and open your legs ... ]]> Off Topic sammythebu11 http://www.swordfishingcentral.com/forum/off-topic/16867-work-irony.html Great Barrier Reef Black Marlin http://www.swordfishingcentral.com/forum/marlin-fishing/16866-great-barrier-reef-black-marlin.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:19:51 GMT Great trip to Australia. Somewhat slow for our boat but did manage to release one we posted as 950 plus that was probably more like 1100. for good... Great trip to Australia. Somewhat slow for our boat but did manage to release one we posted as 950 plus that was probably more like 1100. for good overall reports from the Reef go to Welcome to the "Black Marlin Fishing Blog"
Every marlin fisherman should visit the Reef at least once !JT ]]> Marlin Fishing JT http://www.swordfishingcentral.com/forum/marlin-fishing/16866-great-barrier-reef-black-marlin.html Sword Fishing Mind Bender learning Curve (pictures) http://www.swordfishingcentral.com/forum/swordfish-reports/16865-sword-fishing-mind-bender-learning-curve-pictures.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:29:12 GMT No Swordfish but have some interesting information & some thoughts I would appreciate your opinions as we are a sportfishing team.

Some thoughts about my research is Swordfish move in shore during the day and off shore to feed at night.

Keep in mind banks canyons currents and the Swordfish depth average of 900' - 1500' average day depth night is at the surface.

Swordfish are caught in gillnets as far north as Oregon.

They are not like other Billfish they prefer much cooler water.

Rich up welling areas teaming with life are common areas Swordfish are taken in commercial fishing.

The California current and Davidson current are really good areas as they are nutrient rich with plankton
from the canyons and under water sea mounts combined with currents. (currents Gulf Stream Florida)

Another part of the process of elimination is commercial landings of Swordfish are full of Humboldt's.

Areas with large numbers of Humboldt's are a potential area of interest as they are an easy area for Swordfish to hunt.

There is plenty of water up north that could easily hold Swordfish especially temp current breaks combined with up welling and currents.

The area off Point Conception is a known spawning area for many HMS including Salmon sharks.
The females come from Alaska & males from across the Pacific.

I decide to watch the weather and wait for a window and loaded up and headed for Morro bay with my little truck & boat 60' 20'000 pounds
durramax 10 miles to the gallon.

Left the harbor Morro bay at about 8:00 PM headed about fifty miles off shore started trolling at 25 nm. right at the edge of the warmer water according to the SST chart where the life was concentrated.

The moon phase was new the air was clear and the milky way was bright combined with the nutrient rich waters ( chlorophyll ) from the up welling and
cold water.

This seemed to be a combination to learn a few things.

Once I put the boat on auto pilot and set out the 4, 80 Accurates with 2 pound squid at 150' 100' and 60 & 20' depth on the auto retrieve down riggers & out riggers
I noticed the bait was still bioluminescent strong off the bow.

Seals dolphin sharks lots of life present and the bait kept breaking the bow for 20 miles to my dis belief.

The bioluminescent was so strong I saw it was breaking the bow at a 45 degree angle leaving a bioluminescent trail about 100 yards back port & starboard.

I could see predators coming towards the bioluminescent by the bioluminescent they were emitting.

What I saw I did not like at the surface level they would head right down the 45 degree angle after the prey not going any where near my rigged weapons of mass destruction.

I had a day old SST chart from Terrafin, I noticed the water seemed much cooler than my chart and knew a cold water plum must have pushed in and rolled the water over.

I was content with learning as much as I could make the best of the situation as the phone was out of the question to get an up date from Jeff at Terrafin or anyone on the radio as it was devoid of sportfishermen no Sea tow on the radio available and only saw two ships in two days.

Heard the AFB broadcasting sections 1-3 were open and 4 was closed, guess I better figure those areas out before the next trip.


At first light I dropped down three lines at 1250' 1000' & 700' I noticed something was acting weird pulling like a smaller predator on the heavy gear and could not pull the 30 pounds of drag but had the out rigger bouncing pretty good.

Pulled the line up to find only the squid tail in the singles strand wire left with V shaped bites out of the squid Humboldt's.
I rigged up another 2 pound squid and a squid jig up with LP light and sent it back down and caught a Humboldt.

I noticed for hours I could not keep a 2 pound squid down with out getting HS ( Humboldt squid ) slammed all most instantly.

I started thinking after being able to get all the HS I wanted over a 20 plus mile area why a Swordfish would be interested in chasseing down one of the 2 # squid
I had been trolling?

Then I started thinking why are the gillnets only 130' catching Swordfish?

Then I decided to understand more about the prey to better understand the Swordfish.

Over all the miles about 20 I was breaking my back over a 30 some hour time period drifting day and night monitoring the HS behavior to the best of my ability.

I wanted to know if they were coming up to the surface at night as that is where the gill-netters get Swordfish at night.

I know HS live at 600' -2300' and they are a large part of the SF (swordfish) behavior patters as it's an arms race in the dark.
(night vision middle east)

Remember SF are mostly full of HS so I believe this to be very important.

I was dropping the HS jig down 100' increments every minute from 100 - 1000' depths waiting 1 minute in between every 100'

I only caught 1 at 600' the rest were at 900 or 1000' but mostly 1000' I never waited more than 5 minutes for a hook up in 20 miles.

If they were at a certain depth the heavy drop would be slack indicating a pick up so I would stop drop the 80 W accurate in low gear and start reeling slowly
then the rod would usually load up HS on.

It was all most a wrist breaker in high gear and takes a long time to get one to the top.

Remember this is a process of elimination prey & predator learning curve.

With this HS depth information obtained at a great physical price of reeling in hundreds of times from 1000' I started thinking why would the Swordfish be interested in my micro squid of 2 # ?

I believe the Swordfish can get a massive meal at depth easily as HS school in schools of 1200 up to 100 pounds.

After SF get their meal that is readily available at depth in an amazing abundance of HS they have plenty of time to spawn or what ever in the nice warm surface water
where they can be caught in Gillnets.

I can hear the SF saying hey look at the baby 2 # squid scared to death running from me, if that baby squid only knew I just ate his momma
and am as stuffed as a can of biscuits and would not chase him if I had to. Not worth the energy to slash my bill at.


I decide to stitch up some HS and send them down.

They ripped loose so I caught some more and set them out at 100' & 150' as it was night time at this point with the 100' HS getting hammered by a large blue shark and seal sucking down a nice 40 pound meal quickly.

I kept them on by sticking a 12/0 through the tail where it is like bone VERY hard area., this allowed them to swim nicely but the hook was totally consumed.
I set two more 12/0 J hook 400 # mono leaders in the snap swivel and stuck them in the mantel with the J portion sticking out and up so if a SF was to Bill slap them head first I would have a good chance of sinking the 12/0 right through his bill just like a threshers sharks tail slap hook up.

While it was still dark I wanted away from the surface and wanted to test a HS at 1000' and 1250' to see if I was able to bring them up bridle them and send them back down in a timely manner so they would be in good condition to defend them self's from other HS.

They were on the out riggers to keep the MONSTAA bait away from each other at depth.
They were just fine.

Had another one at 250' off the center transom.

I would like to try the HS fishing increments on the inner banks to monitor the HS behavior in other areas.

I would like to check out the diet of the stomach of HS on the next trip.

I will bring more fuel to stay longer next trip and a current SST chart.

Slow trolling HS might be a good idea as if I get one in front of a hungry SF ready for another meal or possibly provoke a reaction strike.


Better meter as mine only goes to 1000' so I can drop my super lighted LP light HS in the middle of the squid that SF is hopefully stalking.

When Thresher fishing they tend to be where there are large bait schools and we can see the red balls of bait on the FF with a red target ( thresher ) on the under side of the ball close.

Should be able to do the same with Swordfish as they attack from the under side as well.

I will leave it here for now.
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]]> Swordfish Reports Keith Poe http://www.swordfishingcentral.com/forum/swordfish-reports/16865-sword-fishing-mind-bender-learning-curve-pictures.html Looking for a mate for trip to DR http://www.swordfishingcentral.com/forum/general-fishing-chat/16864-looking-mate-trip-dr.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:31:26 GMT Hi, I am looking for a mate to help me bring my boat to the DR around the 9th of Dec. We will be leaving from Lyford Cay. This is just a travel... Hi,
I am looking for a mate to help me bring my boat to the DR around the 9th of Dec.
We will be leaving from Lyford Cay. This is just a travel job that may turn into a job thru mid January if things click. Its not fishing, just family and friends having a good time.

The person I am looking for will be a Captain, clean cut and friendly and must also speak Spanish.

If your interested please send your resume, price range and a recent picture to "franksig@gmail.com"

Thanks,
Capt Frank Signorelli
"KAIZEN" ]]> General Fishing Chat flcapt http://www.swordfishingcentral.com/forum/general-fishing-chat/16864-looking-mate-trip-dr.html Now that Ricky is done for the year..... http://www.swordfishingcentral.com/forum/off-topic/16863-now-ricky-done-year.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:39:35 GMT Are the dolphins done? are the dolphins going to see a heavy dose of the pistol? are the dolphins going to come up with something else? Are the dolphins done?
are the dolphins going to see a heavy dose of the pistol?
are the dolphins going to come up with something else? ]]> Off Topic sammythebu11 http://www.swordfishingcentral.com/forum/off-topic/16863-now-ricky-done-year.html wtb:lp 24 volt to 12 volt conversion box http://www.swordfishingcentral.com/forum/marine-marketplace/16862-wtb-lp-24-volt-12-volt-conversion-box.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:33:52 GMT i have a lp penn 130st which is 24 volt and i need to use it on a 12 volt system so i am loking to buy a 24 to 12 volt conversion box. let me know if... i have a lp penn 130st which is 24 volt and i need to use it on a 12 volt system so i am loking to buy a 24 to 12 volt conversion box. let me know if anyine has one!!!! ]]> Marine Marketplace girber420 http://www.swordfishingcentral.com/forum/marine-marketplace/16862-wtb-lp-24-volt-12-volt-conversion-box.html Ft. Pierce Inshore - Offshore Report http://www.swordfishingcentral.com/forum/florida-fishing-reports/16861-ft-pierce-inshore-offshore-report.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:54:59 GMT NOVEMBER 19, 2009 INSHORE - Good reports from the inshore anglers this week. We had a lot of action from the spanish mackerel, bluefish and... NOVEMBER 19, 2009

INSHORE - Good reports from the inshore anglers this week. We had a lot of action from the spanish mackerel, bluefish and jacks that are in the Ft. Pierce Inlet and around the local bridges. These fish have been taking just about any kind of bait however the best has been a 1/4oz. silver spoon. The bottom fishing remains steady for snapper, black drum, sheepshead and the croakers are starting to show up. All of these fish can be caught on a live shrimp. The snook fishing has also been good around the lighted docks in the Ft. Pierce Inlet. The top bait has a been finger mullet. And, I did have reports of some flounder showing up around the sand bars along the Inlet. Try using a live shrimp or a finger mullet.

OFFSHORE - The offshore conditions are still not the best for the smaller boats but, the bigger sport fishing boats are reporting some sailfish action starting in 100 feet of water. Most of the fish were caught on a ballyhoo. I also had reports of several nice wahoo in the 30 to 40 pound range and they were caught in 210 feet of water on a split tail mullet. Also, a few kingfish in 80 feet of water and I had a handful of cobia reported around the buoy's and wrecks.

TEEN ANGLERS - When we arrived at the Jaycee Park boat ramp this morning there was a very stiff breeze and a very high tide. All the Teen Anglers and their family members had to remove their shoes and roll up their pants legs and wade out to the finger piers. The good thing is that the wind did lay down some as the morning went on and it was a beautiful sunny day! We had a total of 14 Teen Anglers fishing and they caught a total of 17 fish.


In the Middle School Division
1st place - Dylora Kohler - Southern Oaks Middle - 3lb. 14oz. redfish
2nd place - Lane Burton - St. Andrews - 2lb. 10oz. sheepshead
Michael Williams - Palm Pointe - 2lb. 10oz. redfish
3rd place - DJ Markowski - Forest Grove Middle - 2lb. 7oz. redfish

In the High School Division
1st place - Shane Surrency - Lincoln Park Academy - 13 oz. mangrove snapper
2nd place - Tyler Serio - Lincoln Park Academy - 9oz. mangrove snapper
3rd place - there were no other fish weighed in for the High School Division

Biggest fish of the tournament trophy went to Dylora Kohler for her redfish.

For more info on being a boat volunteer or joining Teen Anglers call 772-201-5773 or go to the web at National Teen Anglers

If you would like to report a catch you can e-mail me at cward11605@aol.com or call me at 772-201-5770. You can also reach me on the web at Indian River Lagoon Fishing Charters - Ft. Pierce Fishing Charters - Vero Beach Fishing Charters - Capt. Joe Ward

Have a safe and Happy Thanksgiving.

Capt. Joe Ward
Capt. Joe's River Charters ]]> Florida Fishing Reports Captain Joe Ward http://www.swordfishingcentral.com/forum/florida-fishing-reports/16861-ft-pierce-inshore-offshore-report.html