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Old 02-04-2009, 05:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I was thinking about getting an Airmar B260 thru-hull ducer, any one else using one? I have the Lowrance 113 hd with a BBS.... and I want to mount the ducer cutting the hull not with their fairing.... any suggestions???

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I have one. It is coupled to a raymarine "C" series fish finder. It reads bottom out to about 1200' at 20 knots and then loses it. At trolling speed I've never been deep enough for it to lose bottom and I've been as deep as 1800'. You may do better with better electronics, but I believe that transducer is about as good as it gets without getting into commercial stuff.
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I have one. It is coupled to a raymarine "C" series fish finder. It reads bottom out to about 1200' at 20 knots and then loses it. At trolling speed I've never been deep enough for it to lose bottom and I've been as deep as 1800'. You may do better with better electronics, but I believe that transducer is about as good as it gets without getting into commercial stuff.
how is yours mounted?? with the fairing block or did you cut the bottom of your hull???
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I would flush mount it in the hull novo,that's the best way to get performance out of your ducer,and no turbulance to fade it's performance.

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I would flush mount it in the hull novo,that's the best way to get performance out of your ducer,and no turbulance to fade it's performance.

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cool... I was worried about cutting a 8.5" by 4.5" on my hull, but I guess is safe....
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If it's done right! You won't have a problem.I have hade flush mounted ducers, on my boats, they all worked well and never had one come loose. Just get the pros to do it less you know how to work with glass.

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If it's done right! You won't have a problem.I have hade flush mounted ducers, on my boats, they all worked well and never had one come loose. Just get the pros to do it less you know how to work with glass.

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how much do the pros charge for something like that?? do you have a good place where I can get the ducer at a good price???
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That transducer sell lists for $800.00. Retails for about $695.00.It is a tilted eleament.The unit is big and heavy. You will need a 3 and 3/4" hole saw. It usually mounts on starboard side about 2' to 4' from stern of boat,about 8" from the center.Arrow points to center when mounting. go to furuno.com" target="_blank">http://www.furuno.com for more info

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The transducer comes with a fairing block that you cut down to match the lines of your hull. The hole thru your hull is the width of the tube...I don't remember exact measurements but it is probably a couple of inches. The fairing block MUST be cut properly or the beam will run off to the side and give an inaccurate reading. It's not a job for a novice. Any half decent boatyard will be very familiar with the process and it will be money well spent.
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I use to flush mount mine in the hull compleatly no fairing block. It was not for the novice,they cut the hole at the right angle and then peg the ducer, in place.It use to stick out about a 1/4 inch now they made a mold with cardboard, of that ducer top side taped together and waxed the inside and started glassing the ducer mold.Now they took the cardboard out and have a fiberglass mold,that they glassed inside the hull, then the ducer was put in with 52OO and screwed down.This was done at (Glass Tech Boat Jard) i did one myself on a 28 Almond never had a problem with it. The only down fall is taking it of if it ever took a shit! but that ducer like that will out perform a fairing block ducer.

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novo DL is right. He knows what he is saying I would go with his suggestions I've always had and I'll tell you the man knows his stuff. Many years of experience there talking.
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novo DL is right. He knows what he is saying I would go with his suggestions I've always had and I'll tell you the man knows his stuff. Many years of experience there talking.
I always listen to DL, I just called Glass Tech and they told me $850.00 and it would take 2 days...



this is a picture of the B260 and without the fairing block it measures 8.5" by 4.5"

my boat is too small for a fairing block so my only options are flush mounted or using the M260 that mounts in-hull (a box inside the bilge).

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I am not crazy about those in hull ducers Novo. Your better of with the fairing block type ducer, but the hole is the way to go. I know (Glass Tech) is not cheap, but they do it right for sure.


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I am not crazy about those in hull ducers Novo. Your better of with the fairing block type ducer, but the hole is the way to go. I know (Glass Tech) is not cheap, but they do it right for sure.


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I'll go with cutting the hole..... now does anyone knows the least expensive place to buy the B260???
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Check with River Marine tell em' Capt. Luis send you. Ask for Fernando in the fishing department.
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I bought mine about this time of year. I found a marine electronics store in Michigan where the guy was looking out the window at 17 freeking feet of snow and hadn't sold anything in months. He got real reasonable real quick. I'll see if I can find the paperwork and PM you with it.
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I bought mine about this time of year. I found a marine electronics store in Michigan where the guy was looking out the window at 17 freeking feet of snow and hadn't sold anything in months. He got real reasonable real quick. I'll see if I can find the paperwork and PM you with it.
if you find the invoice will be great, I called RMS and spoke with Fernando but their price was around $899. I think,
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Thanks Novo, check other places for sure. Maybe Ballyhu, guy is the one hope it works out.

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Thanks DL... this is what have now but I heard with a thru-hull it's much better...
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You will have a better view only if you have at least 1000 watts on that machine, at greater depth. Out in swordfish country 1200-1800 you need that power,but call me i will show you a few tricks, to tweak that ducer.

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You will have a better view only if you have at least 1000 watts on that machine, at greater depth. Out in swordfish country 1200-1800 you need that power,but call me i will show you a few tricks, to tweak that ducer.

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Up to 1 kW RMS (8,000 watts peak-to-peak) transmit power for depths to 3,000 ft. (915 m) with 50 kHz*

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Default B164 tilted element transducer.

WHy don't you try this transducer? No fairing block! 0, 12, or 20 degrees to fit your deadrise.
6 degree beam width at 200khz and 22 degree at 50khz.

furuno&PageNo=500" target="_blank">AIRMAR Electronic Catalog






Product Specifications (pdf)

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B164 1kW Tilted Element





Features:
Depth/Temp
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1 kW RMS
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Step up to a 1kW—Without a Fairing! Airmar has taken our innovative Tilted Element™ technology to a higher power. The new 1kW, flush-mount, tilted element transducers are perfect for fast, trailered tournament sport fishing vessels who cannot have a high-performance fairing. The flush mounted, bronze housing protrudes less than 6.35 mm (0.25”) outside your hull and can sit on trailer rollers and bunks with no damage at all. The ceramic arrays are tilted inside the housing giving you the perfect vertical beam with maximum energy on what is directly below your boat. Take your fishfinder to the next power with Airmar’s 1kW tilted element transducers.


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here are the specs:
Up to 1 kW RMS (8,000 watts peak-to-peak) transmit power for depths to 3,000 ft. (915 m) with 50 kHz*

what do you think?
Looks good Novo.

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WHy don't you try this transducer? No fairing block! 0, 12, or 20 degrees to fit your deadrise.
6 degree beam width at 200khz and 22 degree at 50khz.

furuno&PageNo=500" target="_blank">AIRMAR Electronic Catalog






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High-performance
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Step up to a 1kW—Without a Fairing! Airmar has taken our innovative Tilted Element™ technology to a higher power. The new 1kW, flush-mount, tilted element transducers are perfect for fast, trailered tournament sport fishing vessels who cannot have a high-performance fairing. The flush mounted, bronze housing protrudes less than 6.35 mm (0.25”) outside your hull and can sit on trailer rollers and bunks with no damage at all. The ceramic arrays are tilted inside the housing giving you the perfect vertical beam with maximum energy on what is directly below your boat. Take your fishfinder to the next power with Airmar’s 1kW tilted element transducers.


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That Ducer, looks good. But i will have to try it first good company Airmar.
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The B164 was what I was refuring to when I posted before. I had a brain fart and read it wrong. Man, what a weekI need a
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WHy don't you try this transducer? No fairing block! 0, 12, or 20 degrees to fit your deadrise.
6 degree beam width at 200khz and 22 degree at 50khz.

furuno&PageNo=500" target="_blank">AIRMAR Electronic Catalog






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Depth/Temp
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1 kW RMS
High-performance
Bronze

Step up to a 1kW—Without a Fairing! Airmar has taken our innovative Tilted Element™ technology to a higher power. The new 1kW, flush-mount, tilted element transducers are perfect for fast, trailered tournament sport fishing vessels who cannot have a high-performance fairing. The flush mounted, bronze housing protrudes less than 6.35 mm (0.25”) outside your hull and can sit on trailer rollers and bunks with no damage at all. The ceramic arrays are tilted inside the housing giving you the perfect vertical beam with maximum energy on what is directly below your boat. Take your fishfinder to the next power with Airmar’s 1kW tilted element transducers.


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the B164 is a good ducer and it's very easy to install, that was my original choice until I called Airmar and they told me the differences... so I'll go with the B260... in order to get the B260 specs in a cylindrical shape like the B164 you need to buy the B264 basically 2 B164's and twice as expensive as the B260....
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did you install it yet? if not I have advice for you..... not going to waste my time if you already cut your boat.
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Did you finally purchase one? Im following this thread as well & looking for the best price on the B260.
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WHy don't you try this transducer? No fairing block! 0, 12, or 20 degrees to fit your deadrise.
6 degree beam width at 200khz and 22 degree at 50khz.

furuno&PageNo=500" target="_blank">AIRMAR Electronic Catalog







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Step up to a 1kW—Without a Fairing! Airmar has taken our innovative Tilted Element™ technology to a higher power. The new 1kW, flush-mount, tilted element transducers are perfect for fast, trailered tournament sport fishing vessels who cannot have a high-performance fairing. The flush mounted, bronze housing protrudes less than 6.35 mm (0.25”) outside your hull and can sit on trailer rollers and bunks with no damage at all. The ceramic arrays are tilted inside the housing giving you the perfect vertical beam with maximum energy on what is directly below your boat. Take your fishfinder to the next power with Airmar’s 1kW tilted element transducers.


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Great product we just bought it for the busy man and couldnt be happier

Hey DL wuzup its vinny
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