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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Fort Campbell, KY
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Had a cool overnighter this past weekend. Caught my personal best Hammerhead. Here is my friends report from the trip.
Report - Swords and Big Sharks Overnighter 13-14 July -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday the 13th Video. http://sea-duction.net/sea-duction/F...vernighter.wmv Saw another good weather break after the forecasters made up their mind if it was going to blow or not. Gathered up a crew of Lanie, Michael Jr. Naved (NJ), Greg (sfcallen), and Ike (Dr. Ike). We headed out at 3 pm and headed east to the 420 line. Found some bait busting the surface around 24 fathoms just east of the fingers crotch and played around there to see if their were any predators around. Didn't find any so we headed east. Once we got to the 420 line around 50 fathoms saw more bait and 2-toned porpoises. We put the spread out and worked north. We worked between 50 and 200 fathoms heading north towards the canyon since that is where we wanted to set up for the night. Found some skipjack tuna busting the surface as one tried to commit suicide on the short but didn't come tight. A bit north a big tuna attacked our long and rolled on the surface but again didn't come tight. Starting to get dark so we head to the canyon to set up for the night. We get to the mouth of the canyon on the south wall and try to calculate our drift which turns out to be a very slow 0.2 knots to the SE. The wind is from our south so the current is winning over the wind this time. The drift is so slow we only cover 1.9 miles the entire night, a big difference from the other overnighters where we traveled about 9 miles. Some pretty sunsets, Lanie has about 1001 sunset pics but here is 1002 ![]() We setup for the night. I got tired of the cheap BPS lights that didn't make it through the night so I did a little research and broke down and bought a sword light. Seemed to be a bit sturdier than the hydraglow and had it's own built-in weight for getting down. Put the light out and deployed the spread with two on floats deep, and two without, not as deep of big asian squid. Naved's wife Rabia, made dinner for us all. Man it hit the spot. ![]() ![]() First run was a sword. He hit the deepest rig (about 200 feet) the farthest away. This one came to the surface but ran straight out from the boat as we can see our chemlight on the top way out. I crank out the slack and get him tight as the crew clears the other lines. We get him to the side of the boat and Greg and I are trying to figure out if he is legal (47" lower jaw to curved fork tail). I think he is but Greg thinks not so just before we can snap a pic or video, the hook pulls and he is gone. Pretty pup sword but no sword steaks this time. The next run is another sword, this one feels bigger and we can see him on the surface running to the back of the boat but the hook does not come tight. Next run is around 1 am and screams the drag. Greg jumps on the rod and a good 30 minutes battle ensues. Greg horses in a big 9 or 10 foot hammerhead shark for a release citation. Next run comes at 3:30 am as a pod of porpoises play around the boat and lots and lots of bait around the boat at the SE wall of the mouth of the canyon. Dumps about 3/4 of the spool of my tiagra 50W. Dr. Ike grabs the rod and we get him in the harness for a long fight. This one is not coming up so we start the engines to chase this guy. At first we thinking big tuna the way he is sounding but turns out to be a big shark, I think it's a lemon shark. After a hour battle from 3:30 am to 4:30 am, we finally get him to the surface. Must be 11-12 foot so we release him for Dr. Ike's release citation. ![]() There was life around the boat all night long as the swordlight put a green ring of light around the boat. These little baitfish (don't know what they are) hung around the boat by the hundreds all night. ![]() A dragonfly came by. What the heck is a dragonfly doing 75 miles from land? ![]() At sunrise we regroup for the troll. ![]() At 4:45 am we put the tuna spread back out and troll, and troll the canyon walls, south wall, north wall, tip, deep, shallow. Nothing, not one pull. Nothing happening that we can hear on the radio. Naved has a big family that eats every ounce of fish we catch and he is getting low so we deep drop and get a mess of tiles and seabass. Nice class of fish. I pull up a 15 lb tile (on the electric) and Ike gets an 11.3 lb tile for a weight citation. ![]() We move over to deeper water to try to find the golden tiles but did find some black bellied rosefish that is not so painful to crank up at 140 fathoms on Greg's electric reel. ![]() 1:30 pm and everybody is getting real tired. Most everyone only took little cat naps so we are all a bit loopy. Die hard Greg tries to get us to head to the fingers to fish more but the rest of the crew is simply not into it since the radio traffic is dead. Talked with Evan on Dawgonit who fished the fingers and got some mahi. So we all start dumping the left over squid and hoos. I look down and it's a marlin checking out the bait as it sinks. Couldn't tell if it was a white or small blue from the top but we drop some rigged hoos and jig them to see if we can entice a bite but nothing doing. We head home to calm seas as most of the crew chills. ![]() Had a great trip. Swords, big sharks, tiles, seabass, rosefish made the trip worthwhile. We'll find the troll bite next time. Friday the 13th Video. http://sea-duction.net/sea-duction/F...vernighter.wmv __________________ Mike Last edited by sfcallen : 07-16-2007 at 09:42 AM. |
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Glad you guys got into 'em! Thought Dr. Ike was finished with deep dropping after our last trip.... good to see he didn't "whimp" out. Keep your stuff packed... I can't sit on the sidelines any longer.... see you on Friday!
PS: That little baitfish is a Tahellizit, part of the Idunnoh family.
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Fort Campbell, KY
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I kind of thought the "baitfish" might be juvenile wahoo or king. Looked to have a mouth full of teeth. The dolphins in the middle of the night eating the squid around the boat was kind of wild. They were jumping all over, tearing up the squid.
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Hooked Up
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: ocean city, maryland
Boat: 26' albemarle
Best Catch: I G F A WORLD RECORD ALL TACKLE GOLDEN TILEFISH - 59 LBS 3 OZS , 313 SWORDFSH
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Sfcallen - Superb Report And Pictures! Gotta Love Those Seas.
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Fort Campbell, KY
Boat: Boat HO
Best Catch: 660lb Pacific Blue Marlin, 44lb Rockfish, 15.12 Blueline Tilefish, 21 LB Golden Tilefish, 219lb'But
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It was great to fish on Lake Atlantic. Don't get many days like that one in the Canyons.
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Lake Worth fl
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PS: That little baitfish is a Tahellizit, part of the Idunnoh family.[/quote]
My guess is a juvenile wahoo. Great pics and sweet report . Those tileys are grey tiles?
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Fort Campbell, KY
Boat: Boat HO
Best Catch: 660lb Pacific Blue Marlin, 44lb Rockfish, 15.12 Blueline Tilefish, 21 LB Golden Tilefish, 219lb'But
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Yep, they are Greys, we call them Bluelines North of the DMZ between us and NC.
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Quote:
My guess is a juvenile wahoo. Great pics and sweet report . Those tileys are grey tiles?[/quote]I think you're probably right. The mouth seems to have that cupped shape that is particular to wahoo, and the verticle stripes also. I change my vote to wahoo
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Grander
Join Date: Sep 2006
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FS did a series a couple years back, where they featured a different fry and thier characteristics every month. Think that is where I saw the pic of a juv hoo
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: I live in N.C. and fish mostly in and around hatteras canyon
Boat: Grady White 208 adventurer
Best Catch: Giant Bluefin released
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Excellent report , still have not tried the overnighter but would like to sometime, could use some safety and supply tips.
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Safety tip: Look out for the cargo ships that travel up the Gulf Stream on autopilot. They wouldn't even feel a bump as the plowed over you. Watch for them and move out of their way. Secondly, watch the weather forecast and choose those nights with calm winds. Travel with a "buddy-boat" if possible. Rigs? Books can be written about methods and rigs. Find someone local who swords and pick their brain. Better yet, make a post offering to HO on a boat that's going out. Good luck!
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As Tom has said : watch out for ships ... here we are not far off shore but we have two ports in between where we fish for swords ... had them come as close as 500ft ... and they do move fast ! make sure your boat is working 100%.. take spares parts , props, plugs ,and dont forget tools !as far as for sword fishing check the swordfishing posts . in the rigging section ..my fav ..is the pin rig ...may to head out tonight to catch mr.swordy!
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: I live in N.C. and fish mostly in and around hatteras canyon
Boat: Grady White 208 adventurer
Best Catch: Giant Bluefin released
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Checked out the rigging section for swords and didn't see pin rig . Do you mean rigging sguid like ballyhoo or possibly the rig with the two crimps where the second slides over the tag end but is not crimped?
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Hooked Up
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Palm Beach Gardens,FL
Boat: 25 ft HydraSports
Best Catch: 150 lb Pacific Sail, 100 lb Tarpon from the surf
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Nice report and great pics sarge. Seas like that are rare in that part of the world
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