Deep droppin Knocker rig.

DIRTYFOOT2 · 11-30-2006, 11:16 AM

Want to do some manual deep dropping with a single big bait. Is a beefy knocker rig the way to go

?

DF2

kyle · 11-30-2006, 01:52 PM

That depends on how deep were talking

For less than 200' I use a triple swivel rig, varying leader length on desired species.

For 200-300 feet I use a L-bar to keep the bait away from the main line while dopping.

For more than 300' I use the standard deep drop rig with 2 hooks and longer droppers 8-20". When I do this I use a rig 8' long with the baits spaced so they never touch the swivel, weight, or each other, to keep from being tangled. On this rig I use much bigger hooks then normal, because the bait dosen't swim much anyways, and you'll have a much better hook up ratio.

Kyle

DIRTYFOOT2 · 11-30-2006, 02:04 PM

Thanks for the input. I'm thinking monster tilefish

Now that you can only keep one I'm looking to target the biggest one I can get a hook in

Gaitor · 11-30-2006, 02:13 PM

I use 16/0 hooks with two fairly long leaders for the tiles. I can put a smorgasboard of bait on 'em and still get a good hookup ratio.
Since the limit is only one fish, there's not much sense in fishing more than two hooks on a rig.

kyle · 11-30-2006, 02:29 PM

Yes definetly use nothing less then the 16/0, Try the VMC's I really like their hooks

As far as the bait I like bonita because its tough. I use chunks 1-2" wide and 3-4" long 1 1/2 thick. As far as targeting a bigger fish I'd say bigger bait and bigger hook.

Kyle

Fishalways · 11-30-2006, 02:44 PM

Butch

I'd love to give it a try with you any time.

Let me know

DIRTYFOOT2 · 11-30-2006, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishalways

Butch

I'd love to give it a try with you any time.

Let me know

What I'd love to do is get out one afternoon troll out to the ddrop hole then head to the swordgrounds just before sunset. We just got to get a day where we can both get away, and the weathers right blah, blah, blah. What kind of time do you get off @ the holidays? I'd like santa to bring me a free month to do nuttin but fish What athiests can't believe in Santa either? Seriously I'm booked for the weekend. Maybe if the weather is right we could do an abbreviated sword trip one afternoon/evening this week. We'll talk first of the week
Later,
Butch

Fishalways · 11-30-2006, 03:23 PM

I' off from Santa day to the new year.

Yippee!!!

Lots of fishing time heheheeh

miamiangler1 · 11-30-2006, 03:35 PM

Hey butch , for big tile fish .. I just use a 5/0 hook ... i`ve tried all sizes of bait ... the big ones will hit a small bait also ... just put a whole squid on the hook .. just hook it once ... it will do the trick ...the small ones will nibble ... you`ll know when a big one hits ... rod just bends to the water .. and hang on ....!!!! my biggest to date is 16lbs ... still looking for my 20lbs .. maybe this weekend i`ll get lucky, going to try with my spinning outfit again ..Later ..Willi

DIRTYFOOT2 · 11-30-2006, 03:41 PM

Thanks for the tips guys. Dan were getting our fish-on over da holydayz!

Catch-All · 12-17-2006, 10:35 PM

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DIRTYFOOT2 · 12-19-2006, 03:24 PM

That blows

I guess that snowie draggin ya in da rocks did it in. Well at least we got the fish

We'll just have to switch gears till she's fixed. Should have a good shot @ some nice groupers North. Hey I left my book w/ my chart and some #'s in your boat console. Will you get it out fer me and stick it in the house so it doesn't get ruined. There are a few coordinates in there I don't want to lose

. Have to work the day after xmas. Was hopin the boss wuz gonna cut me some slack, but no luck.

We'll hook up soon and get after em, even if its in da river.
Later,
Butch

miamiangler1 · 12-19-2006, 06:58 PM

hey butch same here , have to work ..unless things change ... when you work for your self there are no day`s off ... and have to take all the jobs you can get ... ! hope you have a safe X-mas... looks like Catch is going to do some manual dropping for a while ... try it with spin gear ! it`s not bad !!!

Boboe · 12-19-2006, 08:38 PM

For shame, DirtyFoot! You never leave your numbers!

Catch-All · 12-19-2006, 11:18 PM

..........

Fishalways · 12-20-2006, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catch-All

Butch - I copied all your numbers. I posted them on www.GiveOutGPSSpots.com LOL

You also left your blue Unabomber sweatshirt too. You're like some chick who leaves behind her makeup and s*** at the house to mark her territory.

Good news! I'm going to be putting major miles on the truck tomorrow. I have to drive down to Smellington to pick up the freakin' trophy and then drive north to Vero to pick up the repaired electric reel. They repaired the parts but said that the next time it goes I will need to replace some major parts in the reel and the motor.

Catch

Oh I get it.

When he was on my boat he kept one of my sword leaders and didn't even leave a dollar on the nightstand.

Hmmmmm

Maybe I'll let him walk home from the 50 next time.

DIRTYFOOT2 · 12-20-2006, 07:07 AM

Glad everybody got a good chuckle

. Both you peckerheads know I'm the best boat ho this side of the Mason Dixon

. Good news about your electramate

.
Merry xmas everybody on those #'s

Fishalways · 12-20-2006, 08:00 AM

Butch

Think you might be up for an afternoon of trolling then hitting the 50 on Saturday afternoon/night?

Peckerhead.

11-30-2006, 11:16 AM	#1 (permalink)
DIRTYFOOT2 Grander Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Lake Worth fl Best Catch: 53lb Black Grouper Occupation: Gunnel Washer Posts: 2,061	Deep droppin Knocker rig. Want to do some manual deep dropping with a single big bait. Is a beefy knocker rig the way to go ? DF2 __________________ right thumb on the spool, left hand flips the lever

11-30-2006, 01:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
kyle Hooked Up Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: WPB Best Catch: 1209lbs Kings 1 day, 1900Lbs Mackeral 1 day, 87" sword Occupation: Commercial fishing, college Posts: 200	That depends on how deep were talking For less than 200' I use a triple swivel rig, varying leader length on desired species. For 200-300 feet I use a L-bar to keep the bait away from the main line while dopping. For more than 300' I use the standard deep drop rig with 2 hooks and longer droppers 8-20". When I do this I use a rig 8' long with the baits spaced so they never touch the swivel, weight, or each other, to keep from being tangled. On this rig I use much bigger hooks then normal, because the bait dosen't swim much anyways, and you'll have a much better hook up ratio. Kyle __________________ Life sucks, and then you die

11-30-2006, 02:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
DIRTYFOOT2 Grander Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Lake Worth fl Best Catch: 53lb Black Grouper Occupation: Gunnel Washer Posts: 2,061	Deeper Johnny Thanks for the input. I'm thinking monster tilefish Now that you can only keep one I'm looking to target the biggest one I can get a hook in __________________ right thumb on the spool, left hand flips the lever

11-30-2006, 02:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
kyle Hooked Up Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: WPB Best Catch: 1209lbs Kings 1 day, 1900Lbs Mackeral 1 day, 87" sword Occupation: Commercial fishing, college Posts: 200	Yes definetly use nothing less then the 16/0, Try the VMC's I really like their hooks As far as the bait I like bonita because its tough. I use chunks 1-2" wide and 3-4" long 1 1/2 thick. As far as targeting a bigger fish I'd say bigger bait and bigger hook. Kyle __________________ Life sucks, and then you die

11-30-2006, 03:41 PM	#10 (permalink)
DIRTYFOOT2 Grander Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Lake Worth fl Best Catch: 53lb Black Grouper Occupation: Gunnel Washer Posts: 2,061	Thanks for the tips guys. Dan were getting our fish-on over da holydayz! __________________ right thumb on the spool, left hand flips the lever

11-30-2006, 02:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
Gaitor Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Palm Beach Gardens,FL Boat: 25 ft HydraSports Best Catch: 150 lb Pacific Sail, 100 lb Tarpon from the surf Occupation: Old Retired Fart Posts: 558	I use 16/0 hooks with two fairly long leaders for the tiles. I can put a smorgasboard of bait on 'em and still get a good hookup ratio. Since the limit is only one fish, there's not much sense in fishing more than two hooks on a rig.

11-30-2006, 02:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
Fishalways Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2006 Boat: 206 Kencraft Best Catch: 450# Blue Marlin, Walkers Cay Posts: 632	Butch I'd love to give it a try with you any time. Let me know

11-30-2006, 03:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
Fishalways Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2006 Boat: 206 Kencraft Best Catch: 450# Blue Marlin, Walkers Cay Posts: 632	I' off from Santa day to the new year. Yippee!!! Lots of fishing time heheheeh

11-30-2006, 03:35 PM	#9 (permalink)
miamiangler1 Grander Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: north miami, keystone point Boat: ,live bait ,deep dropping,swordfishing Best Catch: 7ft sailfish on 10#test with diawaBG20, 100#tarpon on 6#test baitcaster bass rod Occupation: selfemployed,real estate, painter,model builder Posts: 1,573	Hey butch , for big tile fish .. I just use a 5/0 hook ... i`ve tried all sizes of bait ... the big ones will hit a small bait also ... just put a whole squid on the hook .. just hook it once ... it will do the trick ...the small ones will nibble ... you`ll know when a big one hits ... rod just bends to the water .. and hang on ....!!!! my biggest to date is 16lbs ... still looking for my 20lbs .. maybe this weekend i`ll get lucky, going to try with my spinning outfit again ..Later ..Willi

12-17-2006, 10:35 PM	#11 (permalink)
Catch-All Hooked Up Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Stuart Inlet, Fla Boat: DeepDropping, BottomFishing, Offshore Fishing, Beerdrinking Best Catch: 976 lb Manatee Occupation: Beaver Wrangler at the Heavy Petting Zoo Posts: 711	.......... __________________ Karma is a bitch, but sometimes she puts out.(copyright Catch-All Catch-Phrases 2008) http://100FFC.com AN RFA-AFFILIATED CLUB FOR BOTTOMFISHERMEN, SWORDFISHERMEN & DEEPDROPPERS Last edited by Catch-All; 09-16-2008 at 01:26 PM..

12-19-2006, 03:24 PM	#12 (permalink)
DIRTYFOOT2 Grander Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Lake Worth fl Best Catch: 53lb Black Grouper Occupation: Gunnel Washer Posts: 2,061	Broken gear That blows I guess that snowie draggin ya in da rocks did it in. Well at least we got the fish We'll just have to switch gears till she's fixed. Should have a good shot @ some nice groupers North. Hey I left my book w/ my chart and some #'s in your boat console. Will you get it out fer me and stick it in the house so it doesn't get ruined. There are a few coordinates in there I don't want to lose . Have to work the day after xmas. Was hopin the boss wuz gonna cut me some slack, but no luck. We'll hook up soon and get after em, even if its in da river. Later, Butch __________________ right thumb on the spool, left hand flips the lever

12-19-2006, 06:58 PM	#13 (permalink)
miamiangler1 Grander Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: north miami, keystone point Boat: ,live bait ,deep dropping,swordfishing Best Catch: 7ft sailfish on 10#test with diawaBG20, 100#tarpon on 6#test baitcaster bass rod Occupation: selfemployed,real estate, painter,model builder Posts: 1,573	hey butch same here , have to work ..unless things change ... when you work for your self there are no day`s off ... and have to take all the jobs you can get ... ! hope you have a safe X-mas... looks like Catch is going to do some manual dropping for a while ... try it with spin gear ! it`s not bad !!!

12-19-2006, 08:38 PM	#14 (permalink)
Boboe Hooked Up Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, TX Occupation: Alaskan Fishing Guide, Gulf of Mexico Offshore Crew Boat Captain Posts: 805	For shame, DirtyFoot! You never leave your numbers!

12-19-2006, 11:18 PM	#15 (permalink)
Catch-All Hooked Up Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Stuart Inlet, Fla Boat: DeepDropping, BottomFishing, Offshore Fishing, Beerdrinking Best Catch: 976 lb Manatee Occupation: Beaver Wrangler at the Heavy Petting Zoo Posts: 711	.......... __________________ Karma is a bitch, but sometimes she puts out.(copyright Catch-All Catch-Phrases 2008) http://100FFC.com AN RFA-AFFILIATED CLUB FOR BOTTOMFISHERMEN, SWORDFISHERMEN & DEEPDROPPERS Last edited by Catch-All; 09-16-2008 at 01:27 PM..

12-20-2006, 07:07 AM	#17 (permalink)
DIRTYFOOT2 Grander Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Lake Worth fl Best Catch: 53lb Black Grouper Occupation: Gunnel Washer Posts: 2,061	Ha, Ha Glad everybody got a good chuckle . Both you peckerheads know I'm the best boat ho this side of the Mason Dixon . Good news about your electramate . Merry xmas everybody on those #'s __________________ right thumb on the spool, left hand flips the lever

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