Fish ID from the deep dropping photos page

Boboe · 09-07-2006, 12:00 AM

Ok, I'm clueless as to what these fish are. Who's got the info?

http://www.swordfishingcentral.com/g.../dd_neils_fish

islandshark633 · 09-08-2006, 03:52 PM

these are small scrombrods (scrombroids?) I posted the pic last year, I'll post another one I have of a still live example.

someone caught 2 over 16 lbs in the deep drop tournament last Saturday. Ugly as sin but good to eat, came from about 1800'

Boboe · 09-08-2006, 08:52 PM

That's kinda what I thought they were. Maybe saying "I'm clueless" was a bit of an overstatement. I had my guess, anyway.

I saw a show a year or two ago with guys fishing non-electric gear off Bimini and catching "Scombrops," if I correctly remember the name used. I remember them being long, gray/black, large scaled, toothy, and ugly as hell. I think they also caught a wreckfish on that trip too. What can you tell me about them? They looked like a grouper, for the most part. I think theirs was in about 2000' of water.

islandshark633 · 09-09-2006, 08:23 AM

I can not say that I know anything specific about these guys, the little ones can be caught as shallow as 800' and I know the bigger ones come as deep as 2000+

I do remember it took quite a bit of examination to match up the small ones to a big one, they seem to morph a bit as they get older. We were into quite an arguement, had to count spines, teeth rows, fins etc to finally decide we were looking at the same species.

A friend of mine caught an oil fish 48# in about 600' down in conception island, Bahamas. I should post that pic too.

Snake mackereal also are caught in the Bahamas but no reports lately. Its even uglier than the scrombrod.

islandshark633 · 09-09-2006, 08:32 AM

There is a good pic of a large scrombrod on page 4 of the deep drop gallery, incorrectly tagged as a pic of a wreckfish.

Boboe · 09-10-2006, 11:19 AM

Thanks for the info guys. A friend of mine caught an oilfish when swordfishing off of the Florida panhandle in about 1200' of water.

And snake mackerel? Never heard of such a thing. I have had the unfortunate experience of catching "sail cudas" aka Lancetfish. Pretty wild looking things. Caught them swordfishing in about 5000'.

09-07-2006, 12:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
Boboe Hooked Up Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, TX Occupation: Alaskan Fishing Guide, Gulf of Mexico Offshore Crew Boat Captain Posts: 805	Fish ID from the deep dropping photos page Ok, I'm clueless as to what these fish are. Who's got the info? http://www.swordfishingcentral.com/g.../dd_neils_fish

09-08-2006, 03:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
islandshark633 Hooked Up Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: NC & Bahamas Boat: Sold Best Catch: 56# Misty, 100+# Pacific Sail Occupation: Custom Lures & Rods Posts: 682	these are small scrombrods (scrombroids?) I posted the pic last year, I'll post another one I have of a still live example. someone caught 2 over 16 lbs in the deep drop tournament last Saturday. Ugly as sin but good to eat, came from about 1800' __________________ Big Game Fishing Lures - The Eyes Have It

09-09-2006, 08:23 AM	#4 (permalink)
islandshark633 Hooked Up Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: NC & Bahamas Boat: Sold Best Catch: 56# Misty, 100+# Pacific Sail Occupation: Custom Lures & Rods Posts: 682	I can not say that I know anything specific about these guys, the little ones can be caught as shallow as 800' and I know the bigger ones come as deep as 2000+ I do remember it took quite a bit of examination to match up the small ones to a big one, they seem to morph a bit as they get older. We were into quite an arguement, had to count spines, teeth rows, fins etc to finally decide we were looking at the same species. A friend of mine caught an oil fish 48# in about 600' down in conception island, Bahamas. I should post that pic too. Snake mackereal also are caught in the Bahamas but no reports lately. Its even uglier than the scrombrod. __________________ Big Game Fishing Lures - The Eyes Have It

09-09-2006, 08:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
islandshark633 Hooked Up Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: NC & Bahamas Boat: Sold Best Catch: 56# Misty, 100+# Pacific Sail Occupation: Custom Lures & Rods Posts: 682	There is a good pic of a large scrombrod on page 4 of the deep drop gallery, incorrectly tagged as a pic of a wreckfish. __________________ Big Game Fishing Lures - The Eyes Have It

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09-08-2006, 08:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
Boboe Hooked Up Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, TX Occupation: Alaskan Fishing Guide, Gulf of Mexico Offshore Crew Boat Captain Posts: 805	That's kinda what I thought they were. Maybe saying "I'm clueless" was a bit of an overstatement. I had my guess, anyway. I saw a show a year or two ago with guys fishing non-electric gear off Bimini and catching "Scombrops," if I correctly remember the name used. I remember them being long, gray/black, large scaled, toothy, and ugly as hell. I think they also caught a wreckfish on that trip too. What can you tell me about them? They looked like a grouper, for the most part. I think theirs was in about 2000' of water.

09-10-2006, 11:19 AM	#6 (permalink)
Boboe Hooked Up Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, TX Occupation: Alaskan Fishing Guide, Gulf of Mexico Offshore Crew Boat Captain Posts: 805	Thanks for the info guys. A friend of mine caught an oilfish when swordfishing off of the Florida panhandle in about 1200' of water. And snake mackerel? Never heard of such a thing. I have had the unfortunate experience of catching "sail cudas" aka Lancetfish. Pretty wild looking things. Caught them swordfishing in about 5000'.

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