Grouper ID help

greg1 · 07-28-2006, 03:50 PM

OK experts and amateurs a like. This guy was caught around 400 ft. What kind of Grouper is it?

quack quack · 07-28-2006, 04:01 PM

It is a Mystic or a warsaw :???:

greg1 · 07-28-2006, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quack quack

It is a Mystic or a warsaw :???:

Ooops, I had the wrong pictures up the first time. My bad.

Incognito · 07-28-2006, 07:50 PM

Snowy- On a Warsaw the first Dorsal spine would be a little shorter with a big jump up to the second and then the third would be shorter then they would be a steady curve down. The Snowy has a smaller jump up from first to second followed by a smooth transition down. When they get big like that the Snowies don't have as many spots and it is easy to confuse them with a Warsaw.

Boboe · 07-28-2006, 09:21 PM

Run the fresh water hose on him and see if he gets really globby and slimy quickly. That'll be a warsaw. Granted, the best way to tell is to have two fish adjacent to each other and water the both of them down at the same time.

All of that said, the fish just isn't sort and fat enough to be a warsaw. Warsaws of that pound range look like big tadpoles.

CaptKen · 08-01-2006, 05:08 PM

You be the Judge, Top pict, Warsaw, next pict Mystic, next Warsaw

Boboe · 08-02-2006, 11:36 PM

You can see the vertical bars in the second photo, thus assuring us it is none other than a mystic/misty.

greg1 · 08-04-2006, 08:37 AM

The final verdict was Snowy. 39 lbs.

I'm not sure the credintials of the biologist at the weigh in but we are going with what he said.

Thanks for the input guys.

1st place Warsaw was in the 90s and the weigh in for this particular tournament was a 2hr drive from where we live. We didn't want to drive all that way to weigh in a Warsaw that wouldn't even make the leader board, but we did end up taking 1st place Snowy.

Thanks again for input.

islandshark633 · 08-10-2006, 07:20 PM

Looks Snowy to me, Warsaw has only 9 dorsal spines, I see 10 in the third photo. Plus note white edges to the fins not found on a misty.

A little imagination and I see a faint majenta hue as well, no Misty for me!
Interesting that it lacks the spots faded with age.

07-28-2006, 03:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
greg1 Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Charelston, SC Posts: 129	Grouper ID help OK experts and amateurs a like. This guy was caught around 400 ft. What kind of Grouper is it?

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quack quack Old Salt Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: lake worth Best Catch: 25lb codfish 5 yrs old first hanger Posts: 4,981	It is a Mystic or a warsaw :???: __________________ Either we can be a part of the solution or we can be the victims of a decision.

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CaptKen Hooked Up Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sunrise/Dania Fla. Occupation: Power Plant Control Room Operator Posts: 852	You be the Judge, Top pict, Warsaw, next pict Mystic, next Warsaw __________________ http://home.comcast.net/~CaptKen1

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islandshark633 Hooked Up Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: NC & Bahamas Boat: Sold Best Catch: 56# Misty, 100+# Pacific Sail Occupation: Custom Lures & Rods Posts: 682	Looks Snowy to me, Warsaw has only 9 dorsal spines, I see 10 in the third photo. Plus note white edges to the fins not found on a misty. A little imagination and I see a faint majenta hue as well, no Misty for me! Interesting that it lacks the spots faded with age. __________________ Big Game Fishing Lures - The Eyes Have It

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07-28-2006, 07:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
Incognito Lines In Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Key West, Florida Occupation: Charter boat Capt. Posts: 86	Snowy- On a Warsaw the first Dorsal spine would be a little shorter with a big jump up to the second and then the third would be shorter then they would be a steady curve down. The Snowy has a smaller jump up from first to second followed by a smooth transition down. When they get big like that the Snowies don't have as many spots and it is easy to confuse them with a Warsaw.

07-28-2006, 09:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
Boboe Hooked Up Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, TX Occupation: Alaskan Fishing Guide, Gulf of Mexico Offshore Crew Boat Captain Posts: 805	Run the fresh water hose on him and see if he gets really globby and slimy quickly. That'll be a warsaw. Granted, the best way to tell is to have two fish adjacent to each other and water the both of them down at the same time. All of that said, the fish just isn't sort and fat enough to be a warsaw. Warsaws of that pound range look like big tadpoles.

08-02-2006, 11:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
Boboe Hooked Up Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, TX Occupation: Alaskan Fishing Guide, Gulf of Mexico Offshore Crew Boat Captain Posts: 805	You can see the vertical bars in the second photo, thus assuring us it is none other than a mystic/misty.

08-04-2006, 08:37 AM	#8 (permalink)
greg1 Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Charelston, SC Posts: 129	The final verdict was Snowy. 39 lbs. I'm not sure the credintials of the biologist at the weigh in but we are going with what he said. Thanks for the input guys. 1st place Warsaw was in the 90s and the weigh in for this particular tournament was a 2hr drive from where we live. We didn't want to drive all that way to weigh in a Warsaw that wouldn't even make the leader board, but we did end up taking 1st place Snowy. Thanks again for input.

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