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Old 11-29-2005, 08:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Kristal Reels?

A great friend let me use his 621 this last July for my trip over to the Bahamas in the new Grady. Deep drop was on fire!!! I would like to buy one. Where is the most reasonable place? Palm Beach? or South east Florida. Thanks in advance for the input!
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Old 11-30-2005, 01:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Krystal has an inexpensive model now.

flyboy911:

I believe there is a new model by Krystal, open spool, gear driven and claimed to be as robust as the 621 Model. But you can get started for under a grand, $US 1000 .
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Old 11-30-2005, 05:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I looked at that model and she does not have the pulling power that the 621 has. And I tell ya that I originaly thought that the 621 sounded weak when we retreived yellow eye from 700'. I'm thinking if I want to chase the big snowy next summer I better have a 651. Just my 2 cents! If anything I wiould settle for a 621. Thanks for the input!!
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I own a 651 and a 621 and I have pulled 80 pound snowys out of 2800 feet with the 621. It has plenty of power. Now 2 big snowys on the same rig is a different story.
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That's a mighty big claim!!
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Not sure about the Snowies in 2800 feet, but I have pulled an 81lb. Wreck fish and several 30 to 50 lb Wreckfish from 2,000 - 2,200 feet with a XL651. 9lbs of wieght takes approx. 7 minutes to hit bottom. and 20 minutes to retrieve with fish on. NOTE: the 651 would over heat or something everytime several times before the fish was up. first few times we tried fuses only to find they were not blown then we realized it had to cool down later we hosed it down with the wash down and it would retrieve all the way up without shutting down.





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Boca Sword Slayer, 80 lb Snowy Looks like you had a record! And about 1800 feet deeper than they normally live!

http://www.theoutdoorlodge.com/fishi...oupers.html#18

SNOWY GROUPER
(Epinephelus niveatus)
OTHER NAMES: Golden Grouper
RANGE: Occurs in deep water
throughout Florida and the Western Bahamas; probably Eastern Bahamas as well.
HABITAT: Small ones may come in as shallow as 250 or 300 feet on occasion, but most stick to 600-1,000 feet.
DESCRIPTION: Dark gray or brown with scattered whitish spots.
SIZE: Averages 5-10 pounds; said to reach 50 pounds. World record 23 pounds.
FOOD VALUE: Excellent.
GAME QUALITIES: Not caught on sporting tackle.
TACKLE AND BAITS: Power reels; cut baits.
FISHING SYSTEMS: Drifting.


http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/Spec...ry.php?id=1208

FishBase name: Snowy grouper
Max. size: 122 cm TL (male/unsexed; Ref. 26340); max. published weight: 30.0 kg (Ref. 5222); max. reported age: 27 years
Environment: demersal; marine; depth range 30 – 525 m
Climate: subtropical; 40°N - 25°S
Importance: fisheries: commercial
Resilience: Low, minimum population doubling time 4.5 - 14 years(K=0.07-0.09; tmax=27)
Distribution:
Gazetteer Western Atlantic: Massachusetts, USA to the Gulf of Mexico, Bermuda, the Caribbean, and southern Brazil. Also in central and south American coasts to Suriname (Ref. 26938).
Morphology: Dorsal spines (total): 11 - 11; Dorsal soft rays (total): 13 – 15; Anal spines: 3; Anal soft rays: 9. Dark margin on spiny dorsal fin and dark saddle on caudal peduncle that extends below lateral line (Ref. 26938).
Biology: Adults occur well offshore on rocky bottoms. Juveniles may be found inshore and are often reported from the northeastern coast of the U.S. Adults feed on fishes, gastropods, cephalopods, and brachyuran crustaceans (Ref. 5222). Valuable commercial food fish (Ref. 26938).

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SNOWY GROUPER (Epinephelus niveatus)
OTHER NAMES: Golden Grouper
RANGE: Occurs in deep water
throughout Florida and the Western Bahamas; probably Eastern Bahamas as well.
HABITAT: Small ones may come in as shallow as 250 or 300 feet on occasion, but most stick to 600-1,000 feet.
DESCRIPTION: Dark gray or brown with scattered whitish spots.
SIZE: Averages 5-10 pounds; said to reach 50 pounds. World record 23 pounds.
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