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Old 11-02-2008, 04:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Red face Red sea! Rusty jobfish! and electramte!

Ok guys,,,,, this is my first time here .....I'm an angler from the red sea, Jeddah port. Currently I'm doing my degree in DC but going back home this winter.

I'm used to fish using barehands and mono lines. Braided lines and reels are luxury there. I see the electric reels you guys use as a really great invention! I'm wanna take one with me home! especially when I remember how to pull two snappers together(or a shark) from like 600 ft using hands with no reel. So, I need your help.

My target species are the rusty jobfish or some ppl call it ironjaw? snapper and other species of snappers in addition to groupers at depths of 300-800 ft. Sizes while deep fishing of course differ as they could come too small or too big. Sometimes we get stuck with sharks frenzy just above the snappers level. After reading your posts and looking at some websites I have come up with this combination and I need your opinions about it. good/bad or any other recommendations.

1- Electramate drive 920xp (what about downgrading to 620 for price reason? or not worthy)
2- Penn reel 115L
3- 100-130 rod (not an expensive kind, for example this one I found for 72 dollars -5'9 100-130# TUNACHASER ALL ROLLER TROLLING/TUNA ROD)
4- 130 braided line.
5- I'll connect it to a portable battery using the (cooler patent ) I saw here in the forum becuase I have one outboard and one battery that I don't wanna touch.


I usually fish in these depths using a 140mm mono line with 90mm leader. We use a thick line for easier handling by hand. Of course, this is not needed in a reel. Please tell me about the above combination and is good or what changes should I make as i'm not really used to a reel!

Here are some pictures of the snappers that I meant from a local market there. In addition to some groupers and a GT I got from shallower water last summer there in Jeddah.


By the way, anybody familiar with this rusty jobfish snapper and if it eats at night?









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Old 11-02-2008, 06:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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looks like your eating good so don't change too much!
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Old 11-02-2008, 09:52 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Put them in the grease....COŅO!!!!!!!!! the first one looks like 'Purple Porgies' great eating.

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Those are some cool looking groupers. Those porgies are good eats.
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Your rig I would not change much on a 115Penn I would use 65 or 80lbs braide unless you get monster fish ... I have 1500yds of 65lbs on my penn 115H and does a great job for me Manually).. I can hold bottom in 600-900+ ft of water with 2-3lbs of weight depending on how strong the current ! you have some nice pic`s of fish !Nice catches If you fish in deep water 600 ft or more ,there is no light ! it`s dark so you can probably catch the jobfish at night ,also if you fish that deep add a strobe light to your rig ,you will catch more fish ,here we have a saying ...NO LIGHT NO BITE!

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Old 11-03-2008, 10:23 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Nice haul. All those fish are great eating. Is that jack a trevally?

Anyway, the Red Sea is a great fishing and diving place. Keep up the good work!

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Thank you guys for the comments....I'm sure you gonna be more excited when I get the new reports 6 weeks later..
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Your rig I would not change much on a 115Penn I would use 65 or 80lbs braide unless you get monster fish ... I have 1500yds of 65lbs on my penn 115H and does a great job for me Manually).. I can hold bottom in 600-900+ ft of water with 2-3lbs of weight depending on how strong the current ! you have some nice pic`s of fish !Nice catches If you fish in deep water 600 ft or more ,there is no light ! it`s dark so you can probably catch the jobfish at night ,also if you fish that deep add a strobe light to your rig ,you will catch more fish ,here we have a saying ...NO LIGHT NO BITE!
I'm much convinced with 115 now I guess ...I'm thinking to get the electric thing and one additional 115 and rod....just to prepare one for trolling and one for down below.

Thank you for the advice and info!
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Nice haul. All those fish are great eating. Is that jack a trevally?

Anyway, the Red Sea is a great fishing and diving place. Keep up the good work!

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Thx....

Yes, it is a Great Trevelly.....maybe it is slimmer than usual? I dont' know....but I got that one for very shallow trolling by the reef...maybe 5-8 ft depth!
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Captain Juan, he said that he had a "GT" in one photo. In anything other than south Florida deep drop speak, a "GT" is a Giant Trevally, not a Golden Tilefish. In Hawaii and other pacific areas they'll call them "Ulua." Trevallies are just pacific jack species. I don't think they're even from a different family taxonomically.

Regarding the other fish, the first ones look like a species of porgy, as Disco said. In the last photo there are triggerfish that look a lot like queen triggers, although I can't see the entire fish to be sure. Also, the grouper all the way on the righ looks to have the same body as a scamp, but different--and prettier--colors.

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