electric reels, newbie question...

aok · 05-04-2008, 10:12 PM

Howdy ho-deepdroppers...

I had a bit of a read through the forum on electric reels and it seems like alot of people go the Kristals, they look overkill for the size of quarry i'll be chasing

so....

i was looking at the Shimano DENDOU MARU 4000HP and Daiwa Tanacom Bull TB 1000 reels for fishing in up to 1600ft of water.

Having a hard time deciding between the two so i thought i would ask for people's opinions on these reels... or any others reels anyone thinks are worth considering

i'm only interested in electric reels (bases are covered on the manual wind front)

thx

AK

Catch-All · 05-05-2008, 09:14 AM

It's just my opinion, so take it with a sack of salt. But I think that the criteria you need to keep in mind are
-what size fish are you going for?
-how much weight will you be using to deepdrop?
-how deep will you be deepdropping? (1600ft, you said?)

I have heard great things about the new Daiwas but I have also seen the Kristals in action. They're damn near bulletproof. Maybe one of the smaller Kristals would fit the bill, perhaps the 621?

I know an Ozzie who fishes in the NW portion of your country. It's all "shallow" water up there so you must be deepdropping off the southern coast of Oz, right? What kind of critters are you going for down there?

Good luck in your hunt.

Catch-All

aok · 05-05-2008, 07:29 PM

Hi Catch--all,

Fish species include Blue-eye trevalla (average 5~10lb), hapuka (20~40lb)...

Sinker sizes are 1.5~3lb.

Water depths 1600ft MAX.

even the 621 is overkill i would've thought for my fishing...?

Yeah i'll be fishing southern waters out at the continental shelf (Off Portland-Victoria if you want to google tha area

)

AK

Catch-All · 05-06-2008, 12:03 AM

Actually, if some of the fish you are going after are in the 20-40 lb range, then the 621 would do nicely. Also, it has a good retrieval rate so that means you won't be falling asleep when you are hauling back from 1600 foot.

Catch

islandshark633 · 05-06-2008, 08:22 AM

621 sounds like the ticket, what I love about the Kristals is the low current draw, they are very easy on your batteries and charging system while still have plenty of torque

good to see you over on this board aok47!

krisis7 · 05-06-2008, 10:36 AM

Sinker sizes are 1.5~3lb.

Water depths 1600ft MAX.

I'm new at this too, but this does not seem like enough weight for 1600 ft. Especially if there is a current

Boboe · 05-06-2008, 10:45 AM

I'd fish a 5#+ sash weight for that depth. Hell, I've fished with a 10# sash weight when commercial fishing in 600' for snowies.

Catch-All · 05-06-2008, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aok

Hi Catch--all,

Fish species include Blue-eye trevalla (average 5~10lb), hapuka (20~40lb)...

Sinker sizes are 1.5~3lb.

Water depths 1600ft MAX.

even the 621 is overkill i would've thought for my fishing...?

Yeah i'll be fishing southern waters out at the continental shelf (Off Portland-Victoria if you want to google tha area

)

AK

my buddy Shann's place is West Moore Island Fishing Lodge in the Pilbarra area.

aok · 05-06-2008, 07:39 PM

...due to the large distance you need to travel to the fishing grounds (~30nm) and the fact we are in the southern ocean (can get very nasty very quickly) I only venture out in ideal conditions which in turn helps minimise size of sinker. I haven't encountered much current out there...

Howdy Alan!

AK

islandshark633 · 05-09-2008, 11:14 AM

hey Ange -

you should post up your southern blufin report in the tuna board, lots of guys here would be interested in it for sure

regards

aok · 05-21-2008, 05:54 PM

just an update,... i ended up buying the DAIWA Tanacom 1000fe.

now i'm trying to decide whether to go 65lb or 80lb braid,... and what brand? JeeryBrown solid, PowerPro, TUF line XP, or FINS?

appreciate any advice

AK

Boboe · 05-21-2008, 05:59 PM

Go with 80# or 100#. 65# is chickenshit.

aok · 05-21-2008, 06:38 PM

i am leaning towards the 80#... and JerryBrown solid....

AK

miamiangler1 · 05-21-2008, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boboe

Go with 80# or 100#. 65# is chickenshit.

Bo I tend to disagree 65# works for me ... just depends how big the fish get down under ... pulled up a 9ft grey reef from 1000ft manually with it !

small dia= less weight... I hit 1200+ with 3 # weight

Boboe · 05-22-2008, 01:25 AM

Yeah, less weight needed, but also you've got less ass to get him away from the reef structure. I've caught 200#+ sharks on 30# mono. That isn't saying anything though, because sharks aren't bad about taking you into the shit like groupers, jacks, and even large snappers do.

aok · 05-22-2008, 02:06 AM

we wont be fishing reefy grounds... there is the occasional seamount but that's about it.

AK

where's jane · 06-30-2008, 06:26 PM

I have both reels. Get the kristal. the Diawa is a fine reel with alot of bell and whistles but for over all pulling up power, hands down...the kristal

05-04-2008, 10:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
aok Lines In Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Boat: HainesHunter 560F, 5.6m Occupation: Engineer Posts: 23	electric reels, newbie question... Howdy ho-deepdroppers... I had a bit of a read through the forum on electric reels and it seems like alot of people go the Kristals, they look overkill for the size of quarry i'll be chasing so.... i was looking at the Shimano DENDOU MARU 4000HP and Daiwa Tanacom Bull TB 1000 reels for fishing in up to 1600ft of water. Having a hard time deciding between the two so i thought i would ask for people's opinions on these reels... or any others reels anyone thinks are worth considering i'm only interested in electric reels (bases are covered on the manual wind front) thx AK

05-05-2008, 09:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
Catch-All Hooked Up Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Stuart Inlet, Fla Boat: DeepDropping, BottomFishing, Offshore Fishing, Beerdrinking Best Catch: 976 lb Manatee Occupation: Beaver Wrangler at the Heavy Petting Zoo Posts: 711	It's just my opinion, so take it with a sack of salt. But I think that the criteria you need to keep in mind are -what size fish are you going for? -how much weight will you be using to deepdrop? -how deep will you be deepdropping? (1600ft, you said?) I have heard great things about the new Daiwas but I have also seen the Kristals in action. They're damn near bulletproof. Maybe one of the smaller Kristals would fit the bill, perhaps the 621? I know an Ozzie who fishes in the NW portion of your country. It's all "shallow" water up there so you must be deepdropping off the southern coast of Oz, right? What kind of critters are you going for down there? Good luck in your hunt. Catch-All __________________ Karma is a bitch, but sometimes she puts out.(copyright Catch-All Catch-Phrases 2008) http://100FFC.com AN RFA-AFFILIATED CLUB FOR BOTTOMFISHERMEN, SWORDFISHERMEN & DEEPDROPPERS

05-06-2008, 12:03 AM	#4 (permalink)
Catch-All Hooked Up Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Stuart Inlet, Fla Boat: DeepDropping, BottomFishing, Offshore Fishing, Beerdrinking Best Catch: 976 lb Manatee Occupation: Beaver Wrangler at the Heavy Petting Zoo Posts: 711	Actually, if some of the fish you are going after are in the 20-40 lb range, then the 621 would do nicely. Also, it has a good retrieval rate so that means you won't be falling asleep when you are hauling back from 1600 foot. Catch __________________ Karma is a bitch, but sometimes she puts out.(copyright Catch-All Catch-Phrases 2008) http://100FFC.com AN RFA-AFFILIATED CLUB FOR BOTTOMFISHERMEN, SWORDFISHERMEN & DEEPDROPPERS

05-06-2008, 08:22 AM	#5 (permalink)
islandshark633 Hooked Up Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: NC & Bahamas Boat: Sold Best Catch: 56# Misty, 100+# Pacific Sail Occupation: Custom Lures & Rods Posts: 682	621 sounds like the ticket, what I love about the Kristals is the low current draw, they are very easy on your batteries and charging system while still have plenty of torque good to see you over on this board aok47! __________________ Big Game Fishing Lures - The Eyes Have It

05-09-2008, 11:14 AM	#10 (permalink)
islandshark633 Hooked Up Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: NC & Bahamas Boat: Sold Best Catch: 56# Misty, 100+# Pacific Sail Occupation: Custom Lures & Rods Posts: 682	hey Ange - you should post up your southern blufin report in the tuna board, lots of guys here would be interested in it for sure regards __________________ Big Game Fishing Lures - The Eyes Have It

05-05-2008, 07:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
aok Lines In Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Boat: HainesHunter 560F, 5.6m Occupation: Engineer Posts: 23	Hi Catch--all, Fish species include Blue-eye trevalla (average 5~10lb), hapuka (20~40lb)... Sinker sizes are 1.5~3lb. Water depths 1600ft MAX. even the 621 is overkill i would've thought for my fishing...? Yeah i'll be fishing southern waters out at the continental shelf (Off Portland-Victoria if you want to google tha area ) AK

05-06-2008, 10:36 AM	#6 (permalink)
krisis7 Hooked Up Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Port St. Lucie, FL Boat: Seapro 196 Best Catch: 48lb Bull Dolphin, 50" Swordfish Occupation: General Motors- Collision Specialist Posts: 234	Sinker sizes are 1.5~3lb. Water depths 1600ft MAX. I'm new at this too, but this does not seem like enough weight for 1600 ft. Especially if there is a current

05-06-2008, 10:45 AM	#7 (permalink)
Boboe Hooked Up Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, TX Occupation: Alaskan Fishing Guide, Gulf of Mexico Offshore Crew Boat Captain Posts: 805	I'd fish a 5#+ sash weight for that depth. Hell, I've fished with a 10# sash weight when commercial fishing in 600' for snowies.

05-06-2008, 07:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
aok Lines In Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Boat: HainesHunter 560F, 5.6m Occupation: Engineer Posts: 23	...due to the large distance you need to travel to the fishing grounds (~30nm) and the fact we are in the southern ocean (can get very nasty very quickly) I only venture out in ideal conditions which in turn helps minimise size of sinker. I haven't encountered much current out there... Howdy Alan! AK

05-21-2008, 05:54 PM	#11 (permalink)
aok Lines In Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Boat: HainesHunter 560F, 5.6m Occupation: Engineer Posts: 23	just an update,... i ended up buying the DAIWA Tanacom 1000fe. now i'm trying to decide whether to go 65lb or 80lb braid,... and what brand? JeeryBrown solid, PowerPro, TUF line XP, or FINS? appreciate any advice AK

05-21-2008, 05:59 PM	#12 (permalink)
Boboe Hooked Up Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, TX Occupation: Alaskan Fishing Guide, Gulf of Mexico Offshore Crew Boat Captain Posts: 805	Go with 80# or 100#. 65# is chickenshit.

05-21-2008, 06:38 PM	#13 (permalink)
aok Lines In Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Boat: HainesHunter 560F, 5.6m Occupation: Engineer Posts: 23	i am leaning towards the 80#... and JerryBrown solid.... AK

05-22-2008, 01:25 AM	#15 (permalink)
Boboe Hooked Up Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, TX Occupation: Alaskan Fishing Guide, Gulf of Mexico Offshore Crew Boat Captain Posts: 805	Yeah, less weight needed, but also you've got less ass to get him away from the reef structure. I've caught 200#+ sharks on 30# mono. That isn't saying anything though, because sharks aren't bad about taking you into the shit like groupers, jacks, and even large snappers do.

05-22-2008, 02:06 AM	#16 (permalink)
aok Lines In Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Boat: HainesHunter 560F, 5.6m Occupation: Engineer Posts: 23	we wont be fishing reefy grounds... there is the occasional seamount but that's about it. AK

06-30-2008, 06:26 PM	#17 (permalink)
where's jane Grunt Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2	I have both reels. Get the kristal. the Diawa is a fine reel with alot of bell and whistles but for over all pulling up power, hands down...the kristal

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