Lauderdale monster grouper

reeltight32 · 04-21-2008, 08:57 AM

Surprised to find this guy out in a spot off PE on Saturday.* By far the biggest grouper I have pulled out of these waters. Can anyone give a definite identification of it?

jvtuna · 04-21-2008, 09:01 AM

Need closer pic but it is a black or Wasaw. Would like to see fins and color.

catching · 04-21-2008, 09:15 AM

nice would have been nice to add one of those in the box Sunday

Uncle Buck · 04-21-2008, 09:27 AM

Congrats!

If the second dorsal spine is much taller than the rest, and the body is a uniform mottled brown... then it's a Warsaw. (most likely)

If there are 6 or 7 faint vertical stripes on the body, then it's a Misty. (more common in the Bahamas than FL)

Boboe · 04-21-2008, 09:52 AM

That's no warsaw. When warsaws are that size, they're pollywog shaped. They're really, really fat and short. That fish is far too streamlined.

Here's a warsaw of roughly the same size as the fish in the photo. Its gut would be bigger if my hand weren't holding it in.

Most importantly, notice the difference in TAIL SHAPE! That may be a wreckfish in the above photo.

Uncle Buck · 04-21-2008, 10:11 AM

Need a better photo... but I'm still going with Warsaw.

Definitely not a wreckfish.

rampage3338 · 04-21-2008, 12:04 PM

it is a Warsaw. look at the top spines. big to smaller is a warsaw's id feature.

Boboe · 04-21-2008, 12:08 PM

That's NOT a warsaw tail.

Boboe · 04-21-2008, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rampage3338

it is a Warsaw. look at the top spines. big to smaller is a warsaw's id feature.

Yes, MY photo is a warsaw, but the original one in the thread isn't. The tail is all wrong, as is the body shape. How in the hell can you see the spines on the fish in the original post? They aren't visible.

rampage3338 · 04-21-2008, 12:17 PM

i got mixed up with your pic. his looks like a black.

kyle · 04-21-2008, 01:04 PM

Nice Wreckfish!

Uncle Buck · 04-21-2008, 01:08 PM

Wreckfish are illegal for recs to keep. Therefore, it is not.

Besides, wreckfish do not have a forked tail either.

Fish Dad · 04-21-2008, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Buck

Wreckfish are illegal for recs to keep. Therefore, it is not.

Besides, wreckfish do not have a forked tail either.

Wreckfish are legal to keep in Virginia. Why are they illegal down there?

Uncle Buck · 04-21-2008, 01:20 PM

Well, the Confederate States can't keep 'em. (Virginia excluded)

From SAFMC:

Wreckfish
(For areas three-200 miles off the coasts of NC, SC, GA, and East Florida)
No recreational harvest allowed. Individual Transfer Quota (ITQ) in place. No one other than shareholders or their designees may possess wreckfish. Spawning season closure: Janurary 15 through April 15.

Catch-All · 04-21-2008, 03:00 PM

Yep, looks like a Warsaw to me. I catch 'em up here a few times a year.

The wreckfish deal was yet another "favor" that SAFMC Chairman George Geiger is doing for the commerical fishing industry during his Reign Of Terror at SAFMC.

Catch

miamiangler1 · 04-21-2008, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catch-All

Yep, looks like a Warsaw to me. I catch 'em up here a few times a year.

The wreckfish deal was yet another "favor" that SAFMC Chairman George Geiger is doing for the commerical fishing industry during his Reign Of Terror at SAFMC.

Catch

Another George Geiger deal

who`s in favor of catch and release of all fin fish of the world .. O H sorry except for the commercials

who`s filling his pockets with green backs ?

espada · 04-27-2008, 07:56 PM

Definitely a wreckfish. I bet you caught it in water deeper than 1000 feet.

ian cameron · 04-29-2008, 04:54 AM

Looks like a bass groper [ wreckfish ] to me. I have caught them that size in 700 ft but usually deeper. But if wreckfish are illegal to keep where you fish it is almost certainly a "mixed fillets" .

Disco Lady · 04-29-2008, 05:30 PM

Wreckfish, COÑO!!!!!!!!!

Great eating that size.

Ron Mexico · 04-29-2008, 11:38 PM

I'm going Misty

04-21-2008, 08:57 AM	#1 (permalink)
reeltight32 Lines In Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Hillsboro Beach Fl Boat: 32 Luhrs Occupation: Ship's Officer/Merchant Marine Posts: 23	Lauderdale monster grouper Surprised to find this guy out in a spot off PE on Saturday.* By far the biggest grouper I have pulled out of these waters. Can anyone give a definite identification of it?

04-21-2008, 09:15 AM	#3 (permalink)
catching Grander Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,552	nice would have been nice to add one of those in the box Sunday __________________ Better to be lucky than good

04-21-2008, 09:27 AM	#4 (permalink)
Uncle Buck Grander Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Boat in Boynton / Home In Boca Boat: Sailfish 218CC Best Catch: 350+ Mako Occupation: Graphic Designer Posts: 1,984	Congrats! If the second dorsal spine is much taller than the rest, and the body is a uniform mottled brown... then it's a Warsaw. (most likely) If there are 6 or 7 faint vertical stripes on the body, then it's a Misty. (more common in the Bahamas than FL) __________________ Help Me Promote FishClings! - Get Your Samples Here --> FishClings-Promo Last edited by Uncle Buck; 04-21-2008 at 09:37 AM..

04-21-2008, 10:11 AM	#6 (permalink)
Uncle Buck Grander Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Boat in Boynton / Home In Boca Boat: Sailfish 218CC Best Catch: 350+ Mako Occupation: Graphic Designer Posts: 1,984	Need a better photo... but I'm still going with Warsaw. Definitely not a wreckfish. __________________ Help Me Promote FishClings! - Get Your Samples Here --> FishClings-Promo Last edited by Uncle Buck; 04-21-2008 at 10:19 AM..

04-21-2008, 01:04 PM	#11 (permalink)
kyle Hooked Up Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: WPB Best Catch: 1209lbs Kings 1 day, 1900Lbs Mackeral 1 day, 87" sword Occupation: Commercial fishing, college Posts: 200	Nice Wreckfish! __________________ Life sucks, and then you die

04-21-2008, 09:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
jvtuna Lines In Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Orlando,Fl Boat: Mako Best Catch: Blue Marlin from Daytona,500+Released.We were in a 21 Wellcraft . Occupation: Electrician Posts: 60	Need closer pic but it is a black or Wasaw. Would like to see fins and color.

04-21-2008, 09:52 AM	#5 (permalink)
Boboe Hooked Up Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, TX Occupation: Alaskan Fishing Guide, Gulf of Mexico Offshore Crew Boat Captain Posts: 805	That's no warsaw. When warsaws are that size, they're pollywog shaped. They're really, really fat and short. That fish is far too streamlined. Here's a warsaw of roughly the same size as the fish in the photo. Its gut would be bigger if my hand weren't holding it in. Most importantly, notice the difference in TAIL SHAPE! That may be a wreckfish in the above photo.

04-21-2008, 12:04 PM	#7 (permalink)
rampage3338 Lines In Join Date: May 2006 Location: destin fl. Boat: 330 express gradywhite Best Catch: 14ft threasher 482lb. 9ft. mako, tuna 150+ Occupation: self employed Posts: 70	it is a Warsaw. look at the top spines. big to smaller is a warsaw's id feature.

04-21-2008, 12:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
Boboe Hooked Up Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, TX Occupation: Alaskan Fishing Guide, Gulf of Mexico Offshore Crew Boat Captain Posts: 805	That's NOT a warsaw tail.

04-21-2008, 12:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
rampage3338 Lines In Join Date: May 2006 Location: destin fl. Boat: 330 express gradywhite Best Catch: 14ft threasher 482lb. 9ft. mako, tuna 150+ Occupation: self employed Posts: 70	i got mixed up with your pic. his looks like a black.

04-21-2008, 01:08 PM	#12 (permalink)
Uncle Buck Grander Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Boat in Boynton / Home In Boca Boat: Sailfish 218CC Best Catch: 350+ Mako Occupation: Graphic Designer Posts: 1,984	Wreckfish are illegal for recs to keep. Therefore, it is not. Besides, wreckfish do not have a forked tail either. __________________ Help Me Promote FishClings! - Get Your Samples Here --> FishClings-Promo

04-21-2008, 01:20 PM	#14 (permalink)
Uncle Buck Grander Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Boat in Boynton / Home In Boca Boat: Sailfish 218CC Best Catch: 350+ Mako Occupation: Graphic Designer Posts: 1,984	Well, the Confederate States can't keep 'em. (Virginia excluded) From SAFMC: Wreckfish (For areas three-200 miles off the coasts of NC, SC, GA, and East Florida) No recreational harvest allowed. Individual Transfer Quota (ITQ) in place. No one other than shareholders or their designees may possess wreckfish. Spawning season closure: Janurary 15 through April 15. __________________ Help Me Promote FishClings! - Get Your Samples Here --> FishClings-Promo

04-21-2008, 03:00 PM	#15 (permalink)
Catch-All Hooked Up Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Stuart Inlet, Fla Boat: DeepDropping, BottomFishing, Offshore Fishing, Beerdrinking Best Catch: 976 lb Manatee Occupation: Beaver Wrangler at the Heavy Petting Zoo Posts: 711	Yep, looks like a Warsaw to me. I catch 'em up here a few times a year. The wreckfish deal was yet another "favor" that SAFMC Chairman George Geiger is doing for the commerical fishing industry during his Reign Of Terror at SAFMC. Catch __________________ Karma is a bitch, but sometimes she puts out.(copyright Catch-All Catch-Phrases 2008) http://100FFC.com AN RFA-AFFILIATED CLUB FOR BOTTOMFISHERMEN, SWORDFISHERMEN & DEEPDROPPERS Last edited by Catch-All; 04-21-2008 at 03:09 PM..

04-27-2008, 07:56 PM	#17 (permalink)
espada Lines In Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 45	Definitely a wreckfish. I bet you caught it in water deeper than 1000 feet.

04-29-2008, 04:54 AM	#18 (permalink)
ian cameron Lines In Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 43	Looks like a bass groper [ wreckfish ] to me. I have caught them that size in 700 ft but usually deeper. But if wreckfish are illegal to keep where you fish it is almost certainly a "mixed fillets" .

04-29-2008, 11:38 PM	#20 (permalink)
Ron Mexico Lines In Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Orange Beach, AL Boat: 23 contender "Riden Dirty" Best Catch: double breast bed thrasher Occupation: Advertising Posts: 23	I'm going Misty

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04-29-2008, 05:30 PM	#19 (permalink)
Disco Lady Grander Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,423	Wreckfish, COÑO!!!!!!!!! Great eating that size.

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