No Braggin Rights but a little meat

BIG G · 01-07-2008, 08:53 AM

Well guys it's been a while but finally made a trip offshore and had great conditions. 2-3 ft. seas and 1 kt current made for easy fishing. Probably should of fished deeper but spent most of the day in 240 ft. Ended up with 14 vermillions, ( largest 3 3/4 lb), 5 triggers , 3 porgies ,1 yellowmouth grouper about 7 lbs, and 2 amberjacks. I usually release my amberjacks but it seems like u Florida guys think they're the cats meow. Oh yea, I hooked something really large but my double line (130 braid) was severed about 1 ft above the swivel knot. Til next time....

DIRTYFOOT2 · 01-07-2008, 06:22 PM

Nice catch. Most " florida guys" aren't real fond of the AJ's either. They are usually worm ridden.

Disco Lady · 01-07-2008, 10:41 PM

COÑO!!!!!!! Nice vermies..... Bro!

Uncle Buck · 01-08-2008, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DIRTYFOOT2

Nice catch. Most " florida guys" aren't real fond of the AJ's either. They are usually worm ridden.

True... up to 15lbs they make good smoked dip, and don't have so many worms. The real appeal of AJ's is the battle. Especially the big ones. We don't call 'em "reef donkeys" for nothing.

ironhead · 01-08-2008, 08:54 PM

What the hell is cono?

Disco Lady · 01-08-2008, 10:07 PM

Ñooooooooooooo

Tuna Devil · 01-08-2008, 10:24 PM

There is a whole thread on it somewhere around here. Try and do a seach.

Or maybe the man himself will tell you.

Disco Lady · 01-08-2008, 10:32 PM

COÑO!!!!! Ask relentless 33

what the teacher told him.

Relentless33 · 01-08-2008, 10:34 PM

I said it in spanish class and the teacher threw me out of class. I convinced her to let me stay when I told her who I learned it from...

Tuna Devil · 01-08-2008, 10:34 PM

Smooth Junior.

B767 · 01-08-2008, 10:40 PM

Yeap...

......

Disco Lady · 01-08-2008, 10:40 PM

COÑO!!!!!!!!!! Jr..........

Relentless33 · 01-08-2008, 11:00 PM

COÑOO!!!!!!!!!

Just did some research; I can't find the "COÑO" thread.

Sweet trip Big G.

BIG G · 01-09-2008, 09:49 AM

The curiosity was killing me too awhile back and I looked it up and found this..... CoÃ±o - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Disco Lady · 01-09-2008, 02:28 PM

COÑO!!!!!!!!! BG thanks Bro!

mannyc · 01-09-2008, 11:18 PM

Jr, that is pretty damn funny.

Boboe · 01-16-2008, 05:12 PM

Here's the scoop on AJ's:
On the Atlantic side they're known for being very wormy. In the Gulf--regardless of size--they're generally clean. The places to find a wad-of-spagetti-looking worm are right at the tail, just under the dorsal fin, or right behind the gut pocket. I've cleaned hundreds of AJ's from Destin to Biloxi, and never found them just slam full of worms, like I hear the Atlantic ones are.

Regarding your grouper, that appears to be a scamp, not a yellowmouth. There are very subtle differences. They taste the same, though, so it doesn't matter all that much.

BIG G · 01-17-2008, 10:37 AM

I admit that the ring patterns on this fish are usually not visable but I assure you that the yellow jaw and the typical speckled pattern was what we saw when boated. Does the true scamp have the yellow on his lips and aren't their broomtails alot more broom-like?
Nevermind , I just did some research and found that the tail in this photo does suggest that the fish is a true scamp. Thanks for the heads up!

Boboe · 01-17-2008, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG G

I admit that the ring patterns on this fish are usually not visable but I assure you that the yellow jaw and the typical speckled pattern was what we saw when boated. Does the true scamp have the yellow on his lips and aren't their broomtails alot more broom-like?

Scamps have yellow lips, just like a yellowmouth.

Scamps are generally a bit lighter in color than yellowmouths, which are more dark brown and chocolaty looking. The color variance between the species is slight.

The yellowmouth will have a bit of yellow in his tail as well. It will be along the trailing edge, right in the center. Scamps lack this feature.

Regarding the tails, scamps get more of the tassel-like tips as they get larger. A barely legal scamp will just have elongations on the top and bottom of his tail. A 20 pounder will have a full broom. One that's in between will have a tail somewhere in between.

Lastly, yellowmouths tend to be a bit more squatty than scamps. This trait, like the aforementioned color difference, isn't an easy one to identify until you've seen many of one species or the other.

Catch-All · 02-01-2008, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG G

Well guys it's been a while but finally made a trip offshore and had great conditions. 2-3 ft. seas and 1 kt current made for easy fishing. Probably should of fished deeper but spent most of the day in 240 ft. Ended up with 14 vermillions, ( largest 3 3/4 lb), 5 triggers , 3 porgies ,1 yellowmouth grouper about 7 lbs, and 2 amberjacks. I usually release my amberjacks but it seems like u Florida guys think they're the cats meow.

WTF? AJ's are more like a cat's hairball.

We call 'em Reef Donkeys down here. While you're reeling the damn things in, your friends are laughing at you and you feel like an ass. HEEHAW.

Catch

01-07-2008, 06:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
DIRTYFOOT2 Grander Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Lake Worth fl Best Catch: 53lb Black Grouper Occupation: Gunnel Washer Posts: 2,061	Nice catch. Most " florida guys" aren't real fond of the AJ's either. They are usually worm ridden. __________________ right thumb on the spool, left hand flips the lever

01-08-2008, 10:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
Tuna Devil Grander Join Date: Nov 2005 Occupation: Pirate Posts: 1,951	There is a whole thread on it somewhere around here. Try and do a seach. Or maybe the man himself will tell you. __________________ What do you mean I'm not kind? I'm just not your kind.

01-08-2008, 10:34 PM	#10 (permalink)
Tuna Devil Grander Join Date: Nov 2005 Occupation: Pirate Posts: 1,951	Smooth Junior. __________________ What do you mean I'm not kind? I'm just not your kind.

01-08-2008, 10:40 PM	#11 (permalink)
B767 Hooked Up Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miami Boat: VSC, Old Hatt Occupation: Bus Driver Posts: 455	Yeap... ...... __________________ Life on the water is good, and beer makes it better Last edited by B767; 01-10-2008 at 07:35 PM..

01-09-2008, 11:18 PM	#16 (permalink)
mannyc Hooked Up Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West Palm Beach Boat: Cobia 214cc Posts: 332	Jr, that is pretty damn funny. __________________ Manny

01-07-2008, 10:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
Disco Lady Grander Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,423	COÑO!!!!!!! Nice vermies..... Bro!

01-08-2008, 08:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
ironhead Lines In Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Greenfield Mo. Boat: 31' ocean master Best Catch: wife Occupation: Erection specialist Posts: 29	What the hell is cono?

01-08-2008, 10:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
Disco Lady Grander Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,423	Ñooooooooooooo

01-08-2008, 10:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
Disco Lady Grander Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,423	COÑO!!!!! Ask relentless 33 what the teacher told him.

01-08-2008, 10:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
Relentless33 Grander Join Date: Apr 2006 Best Catch: 81" sword Posts: 2,994	I said it in spanish class and the teacher threw me out of class. I convinced her to let me stay when I told her who I learned it from...

01-08-2008, 10:40 PM	#12 (permalink)
Disco Lady Grander Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,423	COÑO!!!!!!!!!! Jr..........

01-08-2008, 11:00 PM	#13 (permalink)
Relentless33 Grander Join Date: Apr 2006 Best Catch: 81" sword Posts: 2,994	COÑOO!!!!!!!!! Just did some research; I can't find the "COÑO" thread. Sweet trip Big G.

01-09-2008, 09:49 AM	#14 (permalink)
BIG G Lines In Join Date: May 2007 Location: I live in N.C. and fish mostly in and around hatteras canyon Boat: Grady White 208 adventurer Best Catch: Giant Bluefin released Occupation: Communication tech Posts: 32	The curiosity was killing me too awhile back and I looked it up and found this..... CoÃ±o - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

01-09-2008, 02:28 PM	#15 (permalink)
Disco Lady Grander Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,423	COÑO!!!!!!!!! BG thanks Bro!

01-16-2008, 05:12 PM	#17 (permalink)
Boboe Hooked Up Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, TX Occupation: Alaskan Fishing Guide, Gulf of Mexico Offshore Crew Boat Captain Posts: 805	Here's the scoop on AJ's: On the Atlantic side they're known for being very wormy. In the Gulf--regardless of size--they're generally clean. The places to find a wad-of-spagetti-looking worm are right at the tail, just under the dorsal fin, or right behind the gut pocket. I've cleaned hundreds of AJ's from Destin to Biloxi, and never found them just slam full of worms, like I hear the Atlantic ones are. Regarding your grouper, that appears to be a scamp, not a yellowmouth. There are very subtle differences. They taste the same, though, so it doesn't matter all that much.

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01-17-2008, 10:37 AM	#18 (permalink)
BIG G Lines In Join Date: May 2007 Location: I live in N.C. and fish mostly in and around hatteras canyon Boat: Grady White 208 adventurer Best Catch: Giant Bluefin released Occupation: Communication tech Posts: 32	I admit that the ring patterns on this fish are usually not visable but I assure you that the yellow jaw and the typical speckled pattern was what we saw when boated. Does the true scamp have the yellow on his lips and aren't their broomtails alot more broom-like? Nevermind , I just did some research and found that the tail in this photo does suggest that the fish is a true scamp. Thanks for the heads up! Last edited by BIG G; 01-17-2008 at 11:23 AM..

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