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Rumor has it that the Bahamian government lifted the recent catch limit changes due to an overwhelming reservation cancellation. I heard over 6000 trips were cancelled. Sounds like they listened to the consumer.
Everyone knows my opinion. I don't think they put any scientific thought into these new limits, or how they would effect the out islands. However, conservation is never bad. |
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That's not right. What kind of sick person would do such a thing??
Dude, I wish you were saying the truth.
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I just called Fisheries and they had not heard about a repeal, but the director was not there and I'll call back tomorrow for more info.
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Question..........They are telling us ; No spearing, no conch, only 6 pelagics, etc. etc. Now, you are in a far, far outer Island. You caught 6 yellowfins, wahoos, dolphins or combination,,,,,, Are they expecting for me to go thru an approved checkpoint/station? for them to give me the ok? Then I can go home? Any idea, anybody??????......
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I just called fisheries again, no change to the regs. In reality the enforcement is as lax to non existant as ever if thats any comfort to anyone, tho I completely understand that ANY chance, however tiny, of having the boat confiscated is too much risk.
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B767, No check points. Business as usual. Thats the funny part...no enforcement, but the risk is not worth it. With regards to pelagics, keep the 6 largest! You have to admit the one good thing is, you will not see anymore peanut dolphin or tunas dead on the dock.
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Do you like to see bait sized tunas on the dock being cleaned for dinner?
Adam, how many proud fishermen do you see with a mess of peanuts or tube size tunas at the cleaning station? I bet a lot. How many of us are left that release what we don't need for dinner? Sounds like not many. |
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There are too many peanuts kept that if given another 6 months of life, would be respectable "gaffer" fish. We released 4 small cows today.
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Maybe I m too lazy.
I think that the effort put in cleaning peanuts it s just NOT WORTH it and I believe that most people I know feel the same..........(Not to start a p*&^%#@$ match once more, I still believe the regs
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I'm good with the law on palegics, but I do disagree with the laws regarding bottom fish, lobsters, and conch. I also think the Bahamian gov needs to address the problems they have with the local fisherman, and the fact they don't patrol marinas. Whatever... Not much we can do, but don't go or abide by their rules!!!! Its a different country, which doesn't have the resources we have here. They are doing what they think is right.
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Hopefully there will be revision of the Bottom fish, conch and lobster limits. I think 20lb per person 60lb vessel limit is adequate
4 per person conch and lobster with 20 boat limit Only time will tell what the revisons if any will be. I wouldnt expect anything to happen til the summer as far as revisions..... |
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What do u think?
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Buy only from someone who can give you a receipt. For us, Rosies in Grand Cay could sell us conch. There is a seafood market in Man-o-war, and I'm sure Bimini, Lucaya, and Nassau would all have markets. I think they actually want to force you to go out to eat. This will blow up in their faces, and the out islands will be majorly impacted; However, play by the rules for now. They will do some tweeking when it hits their pocket. I can't remember the last time I caught and cleaned my own conch...NOT WORTH IT. I'm sure most will agree. I do love to make my own fresh conch salad and cracked conch. If there is a boat that pulls into my marina and sells conch, I'm gonna buy some - especially if they will take Budweiser instead of money!!!
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I thought they turned back the rules but they have not done anything.I agree with captadam on his proposed limits only up 100lb per boat on bottom fish.I get so upset when I think about this.90% of the fish caught in the islands are caught by local fisherman.They will not be affected by the new laws because they do not apply to them in reallity.So the 10% of fish caught by U.S. boaters will be cut to 4% .So how are these new rules really protecting the fish?
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QQ - atleast they are starting somewhere. BUT. What they will create is more of a problem than they would have if they cut back on their own quota. Now they will have more poverty.
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The big guys over there do not care about us any more.They really do not care for there own environment or fishery either.They care about big development and big money now.The proof of this.Bimini,Chub,that new Gin sumar place going in on Grand Bahamma.Those with 6 or 7 other big projects is the future of the islands.Our kids and grandkids will only know them as big tourist traps and resorts.The resorts will have high fences to keep the real islands out.Look what they let them do on North Bimini.Just tear up and drege what you want by the way do you have our money and when is the casino going in.Has any one bought Walkers yet?Maybe we should get 100 people together and buy it.Fix the docks redo the rooms and keep it like the islands we remember.
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25 MILLION. Plus another $25,000,000.00 to bring back the marina and hotel. QQ - I don't disagree one bit, but there are a lot of small islands that could flourish if handled properly, especially with the large islands being developed. The Bahamas could have it all... Big money, and us. I do not travel to Bimini, and I only go to Lucaya or Nassau on my way thru. They do have their place I guess, but only as long as the out islands can exist...Like Walkers Cay!
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It starts with the big islands then the out islands build nicer places and jack there rates through the roof.Sorry for all the bad feelings but every place that I love is getting over developed,overpriced,to politically correct,cant do that any more,got to pay to play,wrecked the environment,not enough fish and so on and so on.I wish I had that old time machine and 100 million I would go back and buy up all those places 100 yrs ago.In 20yrs you will not be able to go to the keys because it will be all private and the places that are not will cost an arm and a leg.It seems the Islands are going to be the same.
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Ok 50 mil for Walkers 200 people that would be $250,000 each not bad.They wanted $150 to $200 to buy a room at the big game club a few years back.Those new places in Bimini cost over $250k now.
I could sell those 200 spots no problem.First thing is to fix marina and fuel.Yes I will repaint the nips on the fuel tanks. Then we get Billy Black and Flip back over there. With eack 250k you get a trip with each of those guys.
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We sold Billy one of the motors in the Duchess years ago. Last summer he was fishing outside of Boat Harbour. The Walkers deal with cay clubs fell thru I guess. Can you say overpopulate? That design they had was rediculous. Who in their right mind would buy Walkers now? No one would go. If you can't spearfish or bottom fish there, all you can do is drink. I can do that here.
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Spoke to a Bahamian government official at the Miami Boat Show. Just quoting him. (I m sure it is subject to interpretation by the officer in the patrol boat that particular day, but is something to hang on though)
"There will be a revision to the new fishing regulations. Most likely by summer. And as far as spearing, as long as you do declare it, they will charge you an additional fee and give you an additional permit for spearing." Maybe, there's hope.... Anyone???????????????????????????? |
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I heard the same for spearing. I'm gonna go over in April, clear, get my cruisers permit, and go about things as I have in the past... incognito. I'm gonna keep my info on the boat and fish the corner as if I were just fishing out of here. Just so I have a leg to stand on, I'll atleast have a good story. 47 knots is fast, but 50 cal. bullets are faster. I just like fishing for tuna, dolphin, and marlin!
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"""""47 knots is fast, but 50 cal. bullets are faster."""""""""
And I know they ll use them. It happened to a guy in our marina last year. Don t know why and didn t ask. We should be heading there May and possibly June....We ll see. It does look a tiny bit more positive I must admit.
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the story on that guy is that they pretty much fished at cay sal and had like 2 coolers full of fillets and steaks. they got caught by coast guard w/o checking into bimini 1st. the bahamian officer wanted to take everything including the boat and send them to jail but they couldnt get a tow boat out to get them so he took all the fish and let them go. sucks =/
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I wonder if it was Anna's friend that changed the fishing regs.
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