Rumor has it

Warrior · 02-05-2007, 07:59 AM

Rumor has it that the Bahamian government lifted the recent catch limit changes due to an overwhelming reservation cancellation. I heard over 6000 trips were cancelled. Sounds like they listened to the consumer.
Everyone knows my opinion. I don't think they put any scientific thought into these new limits, or how they would effect the out islands.
However, conservation is never bad.

lcosta02 · 02-05-2007, 01:57 PM

That's not right. What kind of sick person would do such a thing??

Dude, I wish you were saying the truth.

islandshark633 · 02-05-2007, 02:12 PM

I just called Fisheries and they had not heard about a repeal, but the director was not there and I'll call back tomorrow for more info.

Warrior · 02-05-2007, 02:17 PM

Looking for more feedback. Hence "rumor". Look forward to hearing back from you Islandshark.

B767 · 02-07-2007, 09:25 AM

Question..........They are telling us ; No spearing, no conch, only 6 pelagics, etc. etc. Now, you are in a far, far outer Island. You caught 6 yellowfins, wahoos, dolphins or combination,,,,,, Are they expecting for me to go thru an approved checkpoint/station? for them to give me the ok? Then I can go home? Any idea, anybody??????......

islandshark633 · 02-07-2007, 10:44 AM

I just called fisheries again, no change to the regs. In reality the enforcement is as lax to non existant as ever if thats any comfort to anyone, tho I completely understand that ANY chance, however tiny, of having the boat confiscated is too much risk.

Warrior · 02-07-2007, 12:47 PM

B767, No check points. Business as usual. Thats the funny part...no enforcement, but the risk is not worth it. With regards to pelagics, keep the 6 largest! You have to admit the one good thing is, you will not see anymore peanut dolphin or tunas dead on the dock.

B767 · 02-07-2007, 05:28 PM

Gotcha...........

captadamr · 02-07-2007, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warrior

With regards to pelagics, keep the 6 largest! You have to admit the one good thing is, you will not see anymore peanut dolphin or tunas dead on the dock.

Warrior · 02-09-2007, 08:00 AM

Do you like to see bait sized tunas on the dock being cleaned for dinner?

Adam, how many proud fishermen do you see with a mess of peanuts or tube size tunas at the cleaning station? I bet a lot. How many of us are left that release what we don't need for dinner? Sounds like not many.

captadamr · 02-09-2007, 06:10 PM

There are too many peanuts kept that if given another 6 months of life, would be respectable "gaffer" fish. We released 4 small cows today.

B767 · 02-09-2007, 09:34 PM

Maybe I m too lazy.

I think that the effort put in cleaning peanuts it s just NOT WORTH it and I believe that most people I know feel the same..........(Not to start a p*&^%#@$ match once more, I still believe the regs

don t address the real problem and are out of touch w reality)......

Warrior · 02-11-2007, 06:35 PM

I'm good with the law on palegics, but I do disagree with the laws regarding bottom fish, lobsters, and conch. I also think the Bahamian gov needs to address the problems they have with the local fisherman, and the fact they don't patrol marinas. Whatever... Not much we can do, but don't go or abide by their rules!!!! Its a different country, which doesn't have the resources we have here. They are doing what they think is right.

captadamr · 02-11-2007, 08:12 PM

Hopefully there will be revision of the Bottom fish, conch and lobster limits. I think 20lb per person 60lb vessel limit is adequate

4 per person conch and lobster with 20 boat limit

Only time will tell what the revisons if any will be. I wouldnt expect anything to happen til the summer as far as revisions.....

B767 · 02-13-2007, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captadamr

Hopefully there will be revision of the Bottom fish, conch and lobster limits. I think 20lb per person 60lb vessel limit is adequate

4 per person conch and lobster with 20 boat limit

Only time will tell what the revisons if any will be. I wouldnt expect anything to happen til the summer as far as revisions.....

I agree w you (Although it appears you are not entirely happy w it). BTW Last year, while anchored, a tiny boat w a fellow and his wife were selling conch. We bought 50 of them. Ate all of it while in the Bahamas.(Three boats.17 persons) Now, I guess that s illegal under the new regs, correct? Too many holes in the laws. Too many if's, when, how.............

What do u think?

Warrior · 02-13-2007, 03:00 PM

Buy only from someone who can give you a receipt. For us, Rosies in Grand Cay could sell us conch. There is a seafood market in Man-o-war, and I'm sure Bimini, Lucaya, and Nassau would all have markets. I think they actually want to force you to go out to eat. This will blow up in their faces, and the out islands will be majorly impacted; However, play by the rules for now. They will do some tweeking when it hits their pocket. I can't remember the last time I caught and cleaned my own conch...NOT WORTH IT. I'm sure most will agree. I do love to make my own fresh conch salad and cracked conch. If there is a boat that pulls into my marina and sells conch, I'm gonna buy some - especially if they will take Budweiser instead of money!!!

quack quack · 02-14-2007, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warrior

Buy only from someone who can give you a receipt. For us, Rosies in Grand Cay could sell us conch. There is a seafood market in Man-o-war, and I'm sure Bimini, Lucaya, and Nassau would all have markets. I think they actually want to force you to go out to eat. This will blow up in their faces, and the out islands will be majorly impacted; However, play by the rules for now. They will do some tweeking when it hits their pocket. I can't remember the last time I caught and cleaned my own conch...NOT WORTH IT. I'm sure most will agree. I do love to make my own fresh conch salad and cracked conch. If there is a boat that pulls into my marina and sells conch, I'm gonna buy some - especially if they will take Budweiser instead of money!!!

I thought they turned back the rules but they have not done anything.I agree with captadam on his proposed limits only up 100lb per boat on bottom fish.I get so upset when I think about this.90% of the fish caught in the islands are caught by local fisherman.They will not be affected by the new laws because they do not apply to them in reallity.So the 10% of fish caught by U.S. boaters will be cut to 4% .So how are these new rules really protecting the fish?

Warrior · 02-14-2007, 03:00 PM

QQ - atleast they are starting somewhere. BUT. What they will create is more of a problem than they would have if they cut back on their own quota. Now they will have more poverty.

quack quack · 02-14-2007, 03:45 PM

The big guys over there do not care about us any more.They really do not care for there own environment or fishery either.They care about big development and big money now.The proof of this.Bimini,Chub,that new Gin sumar place going in on Grand Bahamma.Those with 6 or 7 other big projects is the future of the islands.Our kids and grandkids will only know them as big tourist traps and resorts.The resorts will have high fences to keep the real islands out.Look what they let them do on North Bimini.Just tear up and drege what you want by the way do you have our money and when is the casino going in.Has any one bought Walkers yet?Maybe we should get 100 people together and buy it.Fix the docks redo the rooms and keep it like the islands we remember.

FinalPoint · 02-14-2007, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quack quack

Has any one bought Walkers yet?Maybe we should get 100 people together and buy it.Fix the docks redo the rooms and keep it like the islands we remember.

Sounds good to me...how much?

02-05-2007, 07:59 AM	#1 (permalink)
Warrior Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ft.Pierce Boat: 60 Ocean SS/31 Contender Best Catch: 369# core Giant Bluefin Posts: 308	Rumor has it Rumor has it that the Bahamian government lifted the recent catch limit changes due to an overwhelming reservation cancellation. I heard over 6000 trips were cancelled. Sounds like they listened to the consumer. Everyone knows my opinion. I don't think they put any scientific thought into these new limits, or how they would effect the out islands. However, conservation is never bad.

02-05-2007, 01:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
lcosta02 Hooked Up Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Coral Gables, FL Boat: Cabo 35' Exp Occupation: Marine Division Manager Posts: 143	joking right? That's not right. What kind of sick person would do such a thing?? Dude, I wish you were saying the truth. __________________ Costa Oil--- www.costaoil.com 2004 35 Cabo Express 2007 33 Invincible "All I know is that I know nothing." -Socrates

02-05-2007, 02:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
islandshark633 Hooked Up Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Nassau, Bahamas Boat: Mako 21 Best Catch: 56# Misty, 100+# Pacific Sail Occupation: Lure Maker, Bottle Washer Posts: 671	I just called Fisheries and they had not heard about a repeal, but the director was not there and I'll call back tomorrow for more info. __________________ www.BahamaLure.com The Eyes Have It

02-07-2007, 09:25 AM	#5 (permalink)
B767 Hooked Up Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miami Boat: VSC, Old Hatt Occupation: Bus Driver Posts: 405	Bahamas Regs; Revisit (No pissing match intended) Question..........They are telling us ; No spearing, no conch, only 6 pelagics, etc. etc. Now, you are in a far, far outer Island. You caught 6 yellowfins, wahoos, dolphins or combination,,,,,, Are they expecting for me to go thru an approved checkpoint/station? for them to give me the ok? Then I can go home? Any idea, anybody??????......

02-07-2007, 10:44 AM	#6 (permalink)
islandshark633 Hooked Up Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Nassau, Bahamas Boat: Mako 21 Best Catch: 56# Misty, 100+# Pacific Sail Occupation: Lure Maker, Bottle Washer Posts: 671	I just called fisheries again, no change to the regs. In reality the enforcement is as lax to non existant as ever if thats any comfort to anyone, tho I completely understand that ANY chance, however tiny, of having the boat confiscated is too much risk. __________________ www.BahamaLure.com The Eyes Have It

02-05-2007, 02:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
Warrior Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ft.Pierce Boat: 60 Ocean SS/31 Contender Best Catch: 369# core Giant Bluefin Posts: 308	Looking for more feedback. Hence "rumor". Look forward to hearing back from you Islandshark.

02-07-2007, 12:47 PM	#7 (permalink)
Warrior Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ft.Pierce Boat: 60 Ocean SS/31 Contender Best Catch: 369# core Giant Bluefin Posts: 308	B767, No check points. Business as usual. Thats the funny part...no enforcement, but the risk is not worth it. With regards to pelagics, keep the 6 largest! You have to admit the one good thing is, you will not see anymore peanut dolphin or tunas dead on the dock.

02-07-2007, 05:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
B767 Hooked Up Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miami Boat: VSC, Old Hatt Occupation: Bus Driver Posts: 405	Gotcha...........

02-09-2007, 08:00 AM	#10 (permalink)
Warrior Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ft.Pierce Boat: 60 Ocean SS/31 Contender Best Catch: 369# core Giant Bluefin Posts: 308	Do you like to see bait sized tunas on the dock being cleaned for dinner? Adam, how many proud fishermen do you see with a mess of peanuts or tube size tunas at the cleaning station? I bet a lot. How many of us are left that release what we don't need for dinner? Sounds like not many.

02-09-2007, 06:10 PM	#11 (permalink)
captadamr Hooked Up Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Nassau, Bahamas Boat: 2 Hats, 1 Post and a Tiara Best Catch: Blue Marlin 135" 600+ Occupation: Captain Posts: 232	There are too many peanuts kept that if given another 6 months of life, would be respectable "gaffer" fish. We released 4 small cows today.

02-09-2007, 09:34 PM	#12 (permalink)
B767 Hooked Up Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miami Boat: VSC, Old Hatt Occupation: Bus Driver Posts: 405	Maybe I m too lazy. I think that the effort put in cleaning peanuts it s just NOT WORTH it and I believe that most people I know feel the same..........(Not to start a p*&^%#@$ match once more, I still believe the regs don t address the real problem and are out of touch w reality)......

02-11-2007, 06:35 PM	#13 (permalink)
Warrior Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ft.Pierce Boat: 60 Ocean SS/31 Contender Best Catch: 369# core Giant Bluefin Posts: 308	I'm good with the law on palegics, but I do disagree with the laws regarding bottom fish, lobsters, and conch. I also think the Bahamian gov needs to address the problems they have with the local fisherman, and the fact they don't patrol marinas. Whatever... Not much we can do, but don't go or abide by their rules!!!! Its a different country, which doesn't have the resources we have here. They are doing what they think is right.

02-11-2007, 08:12 PM	#14 (permalink)
captadamr Hooked Up Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Nassau, Bahamas Boat: 2 Hats, 1 Post and a Tiara Best Catch: Blue Marlin 135" 600+ Occupation: Captain Posts: 232	Hopefully there will be revision of the Bottom fish, conch and lobster limits. I think 20lb per person 60lb vessel limit is adequate 4 per person conch and lobster with 20 boat limit Only time will tell what the revisons if any will be. I wouldnt expect anything to happen til the summer as far as revisions.....

02-13-2007, 03:00 PM	#16 (permalink)
Warrior Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ft.Pierce Boat: 60 Ocean SS/31 Contender Best Catch: 369# core Giant Bluefin Posts: 308	Buy only from someone who can give you a receipt. For us, Rosies in Grand Cay could sell us conch. There is a seafood market in Man-o-war, and I'm sure Bimini, Lucaya, and Nassau would all have markets. I think they actually want to force you to go out to eat. This will blow up in their faces, and the out islands will be majorly impacted; However, play by the rules for now. They will do some tweeking when it hits their pocket. I can't remember the last time I caught and cleaned my own conch...NOT WORTH IT. I'm sure most will agree. I do love to make my own fresh conch salad and cracked conch. If there is a boat that pulls into my marina and sells conch, I'm gonna buy some - especially if they will take Budweiser instead of money!!!

02-14-2007, 03:00 PM	#18 (permalink)
Warrior Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ft.Pierce Boat: 60 Ocean SS/31 Contender Best Catch: 369# core Giant Bluefin Posts: 308	QQ - atleast they are starting somewhere. BUT. What they will create is more of a problem than they would have if they cut back on their own quota. Now they will have more poverty.

02-14-2007, 03:45 PM	#19 (permalink)
quack quack Old Salt Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: lake worth Best Catch: 25lb codfish 5 yrs old first hanger Posts: 4,426	The big guys over there do not care about us any more.They really do not care for there own environment or fishery either.They care about big development and big money now.The proof of this.Bimini,Chub,that new Gin sumar place going in on Grand Bahamma.Those with 6 or 7 other big projects is the future of the islands.Our kids and grandkids will only know them as big tourist traps and resorts.The resorts will have high fences to keep the real islands out.Look what they let them do on North Bimini.Just tear up and drege what you want by the way do you have our money and when is the casino going in.Has any one bought Walkers yet?Maybe we should get 100 people together and buy it.Fix the docks redo the rooms and keep it like the islands we remember. __________________ Either we can be a part of the solution or we can be the victims of a decision.

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