New Bahamas Fishing Reg's 2007

[lcosta02]

Originally Posted by Fishalways

Group hug!

[quack quack]

Originally Posted by captadamr

Firstly, I never called either of you hooligans, I have never met either of you. The Holligans remark is towards those who act like hollignas? Do you? If not then shut up. I have been fishing since i was a little kid. I crossed the stream the 1st time when i was 8 months old. I have been a mate part time since I was 12. I have more local knowlege than most people will gain in a lifetime. I caught the largest blue marlin, wahoo and one of the biggest dolphin out of nassau this year. I cosistently produce more and larger fish than captains 3x my age.

Lcostal, the only way to stop those from fishing for lobster out of season is to refuse to buy, and report them. If you cared about the resource you would not purchase from them. They only do it because they know some one will buy it.

And every time my Dad was in Nassua on the Bream Killer they out fished every one and had the locals asking to fish with him.Capt adam I know you must have known my dad and have to agree.

[Beer Bones]

I say if a local offers you anything that is out of season CALL THE COP"S!! Who the hell is he to sell lobster out of season, i will call the "man" in a heart beat if i see anything along those lines. This is the thing, conservation is up to all of us and we must do what is right for future generations. That's what this is all about, looking out for the little buggers that come after us, i.e. the next generation. Let's keep our eye's on the ball and stop the petty crap. So far everyone here has said that certain parts of the new reg's are out of line. We all agree with that and i am sure the ministry has heard as well. The new Reg's still can be tweeked and hopfully they will be. This is a community of mostly like minded individuals who care about the marine environment, only those who are out there can help and i hope all will be vigilant and aware. It's up to us to protect this vital resource for the future.

[quack quack]

Originally Posted by Beer Bones

I say if a local offers you anything that is out of season CALL THE COP"S!! Who the hell is he to sell lobster out of season, i will call the "man" in a heart beat if i see anything along those lines. This is the thing, conservation is up to all of us and we must do what is right for future generations. That's what this is all about, looking out for the little buggers that come after us, i.e. the next generation. Let's keep our eye's on the ball and stop the petty crap. So far everyone here has said that certain parts of the new reg's are out of line. We all agree with that and i am sure the ministry has heard as well. The new Reg's still can be tweeked and hopfully they will be. This is a community of mostly like minded individuals who care about the marine environment, only those who are out there can help and i hope all will be vigilant and aware. It's up to us to protect this vital resource for the future.

Ok I will be sure to call the cop's on the next guy selling summer crab. Then the next morning my boat will be missing,sunk or just not running right with 50gal of saltwater in the tank. We all agree some of the rules are ok and some are not but the lack of respect for your own people is blowing me away.You bash those other islands like Bimini and that is so wrong.Get your left over English noses out of the sky and come back to reality with the rest of us.

[The BEAST]

Beer Bones,

That is my only oppostion to this whole fiasco. The bottom fish regs are absolutely ridiculous and if the true meaning of the new regs is conservation why does it ONLY pertain to foreign "American" vessels? Just doesn't make sense.

Carefull QQ,

Warrior, Broadbill, and TD will be jumping on you next for voicing your opinion.

Capt. Jim
The BEAST

[quack quack]

Originally Posted by The BEAST

Beer Bones,

That is my only oppostion to this whole fiasco. The bottom fish regs are absolutely ridiculous and if the true meaning of the new regs is conservation why does it ONLY pertain to foreign "American" vessels? Just doesn't make sense.

Carefull QQ,

Warrior, Broadbill, and TD will be jumping on you next for voicing your opinion.

Capt. Jim
The BEAST

Nothing to worry about Jim they know better

[Beer Bones]

QQ easy there firecracker. Who is disrespecting anyone in my thread. I simply stated that if i see a person, any person, breaking the law in will do the RIGHT thing and report them. Is that not what an upright citizen is supposed to do? I would think the person breaking the law is the one doing the disrespecting. Maybe you should read my last thread once again and take your time this go around before calling people names. Once again only if we3 all work together will we be able to protect OUR fisheries.

[Beer Bones]

Capt Jim,
Yup i agree with you that the bottom fish limit is out of line. It may seem that these reg's are aimed at the "American" boat but really the main culprits are the longliners off Abaco and the dominicans down south. We are a tiny Nation with one natural resource and that is our seas. What is the problem with Bahamians trying to protect the little that we have? No goverment is perfect least of all bahamian government, but at least they are trying to protect what we have for fduture generations. What happens when the fisheries completly collapse? Not a soul will come here, no snorklers, scuba divers, or fishermen. So what can we do, except try and protect what we have. I wish the world was different, as i am sure most people do but we must deal with reality.

[lcosta02]

Originally Posted by quack quack

Ok I will be sure to call the cop's on the next guy selling summer crab. Then the next morning my boat will be missing,sunk or just not running right with 50gal of saltwater in the tank. We all agree some of the rules are ok and some are not but the lack of respect for your own people is blowing me away.You bash those other islands like Bimini and that is so wrong.Get your left over English noses out of the sky and come back to reality with the rest of us.

I have the same sentiment as QQ. My first inclination would be to call the authorities, but I must also take into the consideration that the buddies of the lawbreaker will want to mess with my boat. To me, my boat is worth than any Bahamian, and I don't know what I would do if I saw someone toying with my boat. Good point QQ.

This law is only lending itself for the locals to over fish the areas and sell the fish to the tourists. I just can't believe that Capt. Adam and BB don't think that will happen.

[Beer Bones]

I know that many bahamian fishermen are to blame for the state of the fisheries today. I travel all of the islands for my job and see it first hand. There is no excuse for what they do and i do report them as i should. I am of the mindset that if i do nothing or buy from them i am to blame as well. If these guy's knew that they would be turned in I think that they would get the drift. As for locals overfishing, alot of area's are already overfished and settlements that used to be 90% fishermen now only have a handful of fishermen as it is no longer economicly viable to be a fishermen. Just check out Crossing Rock's in Abaco. Once again and for the last time we ALL need to check ourselves and look after our environment, if not there will be nothing but fish farms over here and around the world.

[lcosta02]

Agreed.

[captadamr]

Originally Posted by quack quack

And every time my Dad was in Nassua on the Bream Killer they out fished every one and had the locals asking to fish with him.Capt adam I know you must have known my dad and have to agree.

Obvisouly before my time.....never heard that boat, but then I dont hang out on Paradise Island that much.

[quack quack]

Originally Posted by captadamr

Obviously before my time.....never heard that boat, but then I dont hang out on Paradise Island that much.

To bad you would have liked him

It was never my intension to call people names our personally attack any one.

The problem I have is I feel and many others feel the same way that we are being punished for things we did not do.If only the Govt enforced all the current fishing regs on all the people this would not even be an issue.Most Americans

I know have left far more in the islands then they have taken home with them.

If they know of bad fisherman like the LLers and Dominicans you spoke of BB why not just stop them?If guys are shipping tuna out of the islands just stop that or limit it to only 6 fish shipped per trip to the islands.There just seems to me that we are being punished and threatened with boat seizures and jail when 99% of us have done nothing wrong and have brought nothing but prosperity,charity and good will us on our trip across the stream to your beautiful country.

It was about a year ago that the Chalks plane crashed in Miami.I was very,very sad and when I found out people I knew had died I was crushed.Even my wife who had never met theses people cried like she knew them from the stories I brought back with me from the islands.We like many other people donated $ and gifts for the island of Bimini last year.So what do we get for all our years of friendship and patronage of the islands draconian new fishing regs and told to stay home if we do not like it.

I could go on and on about all the good will and such my family and I have brought to the islands over the years but I do not have that much time or strength in my fingers to type.

I hope now maybe Capt Adam and BB as well as the local govt know nows why I feel like I do about the insulting fishing regs and threats of going to jail.

[Broadbill]

I'll never stop going to the Bahamas. If the Bahamian govenment makes it where you can only keep one pelagic a day I will still go. They are not limiting your ability to catch, just to kill. Trust me the Bahamian economy isn't going to crash because some frozen fish junkies on this forum aren't going back. There are plenty of people like myself that enjoy, respect, and have too many great memories to let a catch limitation stop us from going. Those of you who keep speaking of "Battlewagons" going to the islands and not spending money, need to have your heads checked. You say they are totally "self contained" and these people are bringing there hotels with them???? Are you forgetting how much money they pay the marinas for dockage, power, water a month? Do you think because they are staying on a boat they don't eat at restraunts and spend hundreds of dollars in local bars at night? They don't take cabs? You fully misjudge the amount of income coming from these boats fishng tournaments and filling marinas (sometimes year round). Chances are you won't hear these same people bitching about 6 pelagic fish in a day either. They are mainly billfishing and are pretty satisfied with an additional tuna or wahoo for dinner. Stay home if you don't like it, It's not your country!

[captadamr]

Many Center Console boats run in, fish then run back the next day. Not a huge economic impact. Those boats eat their catch that night, and sleep in a hotel. So the hotels may loose a few rooms per week. I see some battlewagons in diffrent BAH ports almost year round, and many spend the entire tournament season here.

[captadamr]

Originally Posted by lcosta02

That's the end of it I guess. Florida is just fine for me. It was good enough for 18 years and will continue to be so. Cub will be interesting when it opens.

Have a good one my friend.
Luis C.

[Warrior]

Here I Am...Beast. Debate this to death, its another Fn country. They don't give a $hit about you or your opinion. I would just assume to catch and release marlin anyway.
Why don't ya'll just fly over and charter a boat so you can catch all you want? After all, it's obvious thats all you're worried about.

[Warrior]

I would like to compare last summers invoices with anyone on a center console. Try 80 or more gallons of diesel an hour. We fly customers and friends in on weekends. We rent houses for our guests. We bring 10 or more to the bar at night. We buy bahamian bread, rent taxis, bikes, and pay twice the amount of boats under 30' just to enter. Broadbill and I go just to release Blue Marlin and drink all hours of the day. WTF.

One day we are all going to be dead.

captadamr... I'll see you in April for the 3+ months we keep our boat in the Bahamas. We'll have to go to senor frogs to digest this thread... with Kaliks

[lcosta02]

Originally Posted by captadamr

Allow me to explain myself. I am 20 years old. I know, I'm a young one. I first went to the Bahamas about 2 years ago on a fishing trip and fell in love.(Thats why I said Florida was good enough for 18 years ) Before that, I was fishing in Miami and the Keys. I thought the Bahamas was great, but Miami and the Keys is suffice. When Cuba opens, it will all but eliminate any need to go to the Bahamas to fish. As a Cuban American, I rather support my heritage than an island that does nothing for me. My boat is large enough to get me to Cuba without a problem, and the fishing there should be much better than the Bahamas; hence, no need for the Bahamas.

I hope this explanation is easy enough for you to comprehend. 'Til then, have a good one.

Until Cuba opens, I will continue to go to the Bahamas. I will follow all rules and regulations, because I respect the laws of every country, no matter how stupid I think they are. I have a lot of respect for law enforcement and would never do anything to jeoperdize my boat or record. I will be in the Bahamas for the month of July. And I will continue to do what Warrior does, drink like a champ and catch-and-release marlins. But I will also continue to bash the news regs.