New Regs are out On Grouper

BrassyHooker · 08-12-2009, 08:26 AM

http://safmc.net/Portals/6/Regulatio...g%20072909.pdf

sammythebu11 · 08-12-2009, 08:41 AM

Damn Commies.... ONE golden tile?

mneptune · 08-12-2009, 09:02 AM

Hard to believe isn't it.

BrassyHooker · 08-12-2009, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sammythebu11

Damn Commies.... ONE golden tile?

I know..

Uncle Buck · 08-12-2009, 11:59 AM

Nothing new about the 1 Golden Tile per person rule. It's been like that for a while.

Blackout · 08-12-2009, 02:05 PM

Yea, when I saw the comments I looked at the date to make sure the thread wasn't 2 years old.

Uncle Buck · 08-12-2009, 02:13 PM

FYI... the Florida STATE Atlantic regs have not changed... yet. You can still keep a 5-grouper bag and 10 vermillions inside of 3 miles. There are no new closures either. I'm sure that will eventually change to match the Federal regs, but for now it hasn't. I check the FWC site at least once a week nowadays to be sure.

sammythebu11 · 08-12-2009, 09:35 PM

Uncle,

can you get to 600-700ft inside 3 miles down in boca/boynton? up here in Stuart we are in 100ft at 3 miles, we need to go 10-13 miles to get to that depth.

thanks,

Sam

Uncle Buck · 08-13-2009, 02:31 AM

Yes... 3-mile line is almost 600 off Boynton/Boca.

sammythebu11 · 08-13-2009, 09:22 AM

cool, i need to trailer my boat down there. might be worth the gas on the suv instead of the boat.....
thanks....

straycatboat · 08-14-2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Uncle Buck

FYI... the Florida STATE Atlantic regs have not changed... yet. You can still keep a 5-grouper bag and 10 vermillions inside of 3 miles. There are no new closures either. I'm sure that will eventually change to match the Federal regs, but for now it hasn't. I check the FWC site at least once a week nowadays to be sure.

Whats this all mean???
Can we keep these fish if caught in state water, no matter what the depth?

"Shallow Water Grouper".. Can we keep these fish in DEEP WATER, ??
what are the depth limits to shallow water???

How can they prove we did not catch them in deep water/state water??

Our gov't doing what they do best. Screwing up everything without know the consequences!

Uncle Buck · 08-14-2009, 04:13 PM

Forget the "shallow water / deep water" designations. That's too subjective. The depth doesn't really matter at this point. The jurisdictions are based on that 3-mile distance from the shoreline. Inside = State waters. Outside = Federal waters.

As of now the grouper/snapper regs have only changed for Federal waters. Which means: if you stay within 3-miles of shore, you can harvest fish species based on State regulations. If you fish outside 3-miles, you must conform to the Federal regulations no matter if you caught those fish in State or Federal waters. The exception is if the Federal limit on a species is higher (ex: cobia, sowrdfish), you can transport the higher Federal limit over State waters to return to your "home port", but you may not stop to engage in fishing in State waters while in possession of those fish. (home port = marina, boat ramp, home dock, etc.)

PURPLE FEVER · 08-17-2009, 11:32 AM

Are these new regs the result of Amendment 17 or is there another shoe about to drop? Does anyone know?

Uncle Buck · 08-17-2009, 01:50 PM

No... I'm pretty sure that was #16.

#17 deals with the deep-drop and red snapper issues, and has not be decided yet.

PURPLE FEVER · 08-17-2009, 02:52 PM

It just keeps getting better doesnt it!

Harry Klauber · 08-17-2009, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PURPLE FEVER

It just keeps getting better doesnt it!

Burt,
Patience - it's only going to get worse. Just give them some time. Harry

Disco Lady · 08-17-2009, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PURPLE FEVER

It just keeps getting better doesnt it!

Ñoooooooo!!!!

WhItEoUt 23 · 08-19-2009, 02:52 PM

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Blackout Hooked Up Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Miami Boat: '08 Sailfish 2660 Posts: 117	Yea, when I saw the comments I looked at the date to make sure the thread wasn't 2 years old.

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Uncle Buck Grander Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Boat in Boynton / Home In Boca Boat: Sailfish 218CC Best Catch: First fish ever = 3ft sand tiger on kite string Occupation: Graphic Designer Posts: 3,061	FYI... the Florida STATE Atlantic regs have not changed... yet. You can still keep a 5-grouper bag and 10 vermillions inside of 3 miles. There are no new closures either. I'm sure that will eventually change to match the Federal regs, but for now it hasn't. I check the FWC site at least once a week nowadays to be sure.

08-12-2009, 09:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
sammythebu11 Hooked Up Join Date: May 2008 Location: Stuart, FL Boat: Proline 23' Sport Occupation: Network Engineer Posts: 427	Uncle, can you get to 600-700ft inside 3 miles down in boca/boynton? up here in Stuart we are in 100ft at 3 miles, we need to go 10-13 miles to get to that depth. thanks, Sam

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Uncle Buck Grander Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Boat in Boynton / Home In Boca Boat: Sailfish 218CC Best Catch: First fish ever = 3ft sand tiger on kite string Occupation: Graphic Designer Posts: 3,061	Yes... 3-mile line is almost 600 off Boynton/Boca.

08-13-2009, 09:22 AM	#10 (permalink)
sammythebu11 Hooked Up Join Date: May 2008 Location: Stuart, FL Boat: Proline 23' Sport Occupation: Network Engineer Posts: 427	cool, i need to trailer my boat down there. might be worth the gas on the suv instead of the boat..... thanks....

08-14-2009, 04:13 PM	#12 (permalink)
Uncle Buck Grander Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Boat in Boynton / Home In Boca Boat: Sailfish 218CC Best Catch: First fish ever = 3ft sand tiger on kite string Occupation: Graphic Designer Posts: 3,061	Forget the "shallow water / deep water" designations. That's too subjective. The depth doesn't really matter at this point. The jurisdictions are based on that 3-mile distance from the shoreline. Inside = State waters. Outside = Federal waters. As of now the grouper/snapper regs have only changed for Federal waters. Which means: if you stay within 3-miles of shore, you can harvest fish species based on State regulations. If you fish outside 3-miles, you must conform to the Federal regulations no matter if you caught those fish in State or Federal waters. The exception is if the Federal limit on a species is higher (ex: cobia, sowrdfish), you can transport the higher Federal limit over State waters to return to your "home port", but you may not stop to engage in fishing in State waters while in possession of those fish. (home port = marina, boat ramp, home dock, etc.)

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PURPLE FEVER Hooked Up Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: pompano beach,fla. Posts: 664	Are these new regs the result of Amendment 17 or is there another shoe about to drop? Does anyone know?

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Uncle Buck Grander Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Boat in Boynton / Home In Boca Boat: Sailfish 218CC Best Catch: First fish ever = 3ft sand tiger on kite string Occupation: Graphic Designer Posts: 3,061	No... I'm pretty sure that was #16. #17 deals with the deep-drop and red snapper issues, and has not be decided yet.

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PURPLE FEVER Hooked Up Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: pompano beach,fla. Posts: 664	It just keeps getting better doesnt it!