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Hooked Up
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Miami
Boat: Contender 23T
Best Catch: 59lb Dolphin
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I am looking to setup another rod dedicated for jigging when we are offshore fishing. Sometimes the jig rod outperforms the gogs on the kite and whatever else we have out.
I have been using a small Penn Spinner with powerpro and 50lb mono leader. Small pilchard jig with a live pilchard on the end. I rarely get cut off and catch big muttons, kings, grouper, etc. Im considering going conventional for this setup.. maybe a tld 15 or something 2 speed to get them up quicker and out of the whole... Any jiggers?????
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Hooked Up
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Austin, TX
Occupation: Alaskan Fishing Guide, Gulf of Mexico Offshore Crew Boat Captain
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Shimano is all bonered up about their Torsa line of reels, pimping them as the ultimate jigging reels. I don't like the looks of the reels, with that big clunky gear on the side, but I haven't used them at all either. They claim that they're very powerful for their size.
Regarding grouper fishing and keeping them out of the rocks, I fish nothing less than 80# main line. I like to have the ass to haul them away from the rocks in a hurry. You can't do that with 50#, unless the groupers aren't that big, or the bottom is relatively benign. Nasty, dynamic, jagged bottom is not the place for finesse fishing. |
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Lines In
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Dubai, UAE
Boat: 27 Cape Horn
Best Catch: Carassius auratus auratus
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those look nice though I have never played with them. Accurate Reels
I have been using Trindad's and they yank everything up and do so in a hurry. |
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Hooked Up
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Miami
Boat: Contender 23T
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I always fish jerry brown on my jig rod and have had great success... i use 50lb leader... The accurate is great but $400 is a bit much. I would consider it though. Hey ReelProshop - any better deal and with what rod? Something light for good jig action, but strong enough to pull out of rock
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Hooked Up
Join Date: Nov 2006
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do you jiggers, jig a whole ballyhoo double hook rig do any good?
I always use a light pilchard jib tipped with live bait.. The pilchard jig has a flat head (not bullet) and causes good action ont he bait.
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Grander
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
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I love jigging also. I have been considering getting a higher speed reel also to help get them up quicker. I am using a tld now.
I need to find heavier pilchard jigs though for those days when the current is moving. I usually fish the 90-130 range while we are live bait drifiting. Last time out we got 3 muttons, 3 jacks, triggerfish, and 1 kingfish on the jig rod when the flatlines went untouched.
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Grander
Join Date: May 2004
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What type of jig are you using?
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I like the williamsons.... they aren't too expensive and work great. The shimano ones work great too, but are way too much $$. The Bass Pro jigs work good too. When I use a 3 1/2 or 5oz jig, I use the bass pro jigs.
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Grander
Join Date: May 2004
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Ya i usually use the flat head pilchard jig from capt harry's but I saw them at bass pro last time I was there also... I just need to find some heavier ones for when the current is ripping.
You using mono on your shimano? I use power pro to a mono leader.
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Grander
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Lake Worth fl
Best Catch: 53lb Black Grouper
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50H SALTIST by Diawa on a 30/50 cape fear custom. Kept crushing the drag in the toruim. Stole the handle off the tweaked toruim and put it on the Diawa. Much more comfy. 80lb PPro straight to an 80 lb flouro leader. Williamson jig, or any size knocker. Get your jig on
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Grander
Join Date: Sep 2006
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You got it. I like pink. Also went to the two hook aftermarket retro for mine. Have caught all kinds of crazy chit on em. That said they are not replacing bait in certain circumstances. Mike said it right. They are perfect toys when you have the kite, and drift spread out allready.
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Grander
Join Date: May 2004
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Interesting.. I haven't used these... Do you tip it with a live bait? Muttons and grouper go after these? Looks like the kings would love it.
I have always use the pilchard jig
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Grander
Join Date: May 2004
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heres a video for begin jiggers: Capitan Canary Fishing Jigging Video ( Shimano )
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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What connection from the main line to leader do you use? I was thinking just a short bimini on the main line to an albright type knot to leader.. Then when tying to the jig, using a loop knot for more action?
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Grander
Join Date: May 2004
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I saw bass pro has the shimano jigging system on display.... I am yet to try a jig with the hook up top, but it looks like an effective setup...
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