boat question?? - Page 3

Relentless33 · 12-06-2006, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyin By

Looks bad Azz, whats the weight, Mine is 29' and almost 10,000 not the quickest but at some point gross tonage comes in to play in bad weather..Very nice.

Not sure if you were asking me or not...

We're 8680 dry and about 12,000 by the time we are loaded down. For the trip to Bimini we guesstimated to be around 16,000

If that's a 2900 CC than it's a brand new model, I thought they all had hard tops. If it's the 28 CC than it makes sense. The new 2900 is 8000 lbs. dry - only 680 pounds less than the 3300. Makes for a sick nasty machine in rough seas

Reef-i · 12-06-2006, 03:52 PM

i own a 36 contender -- and while it's a nice boat - it snaps and rolls alot while swordfishing. i've been swording on many other, better platforms.

Liquid Swords · 12-06-2006, 04:02 PM

Hey Flyin By, that's the same boat I have. Jr.'s right, that is the 2796 Vector. The 33' Hydra is the sickest ride out there. I participated in a tournament years ago that started with a "bimini start". For those that don't know, a bimini start is when all the boats leave at the same time. It was blowing a good 20 knots that day, and the testosterone levels were at their highest. When the commitee boat sounded the horn, everyone floored the throttles. Little by little, boats started pulling back on the throttles as we got closer to the drop-off except a 33' Hydra. That guy demoralized everyone racing out there. It was the most impressive thing I have ever seen.
I've been in plenty of Contenders, and I (OPINION) don't see the big deal about them. I think the boat is over-rated; too expensive for what you are getting in return. It is very plane jane. The finish is similar to a Dusky. If its use is strictly for fishing then I can see why someone would buy a Contender. However, as a general utility boat, it isn't the best choice. I would prefer the 36' Yellowfin. That's my opinion, and i'm entitled to it.

billspilingup · 12-07-2006, 08:56 AM

So what is everyone's favorite boat to sword from? Not necessarily the fastest or slickest looking boat, but the one that drifts the best without all that rocking and rolling.

quack quack · 12-07-2006, 09:06 AM

After the Everglades I like Headfirst's 33 Palmetto.

Flyin By · 12-07-2006, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Liquid Swords

Hey Flyin By, that's the same boat I have. Jr.'s right, that is the 2796 Vector. The 33' Hydra is the sickest ride out there. I participated in a tournament years ago that started with a "bimini start". For those that don't know, a bimini start is when all the boats leave at the same time. It was blowing a good 20 knots that day, and the testosterone levels were at their highest. When the commitee boat sounded the horn, everyone floored the throttles. Little by little, boats started pulling back on the throttles as we got closer to the drop-off except a 33' Hydra. That guy demoralized everyone racing out there. It was the most impressive thing I have ever seen.
I've been in plenty of Contenders, and I (OPINION) don't see the big deal about them. I think the boat is over-rated; too expensive for what you are getting in return. It is very plane jane. The finish is similar to a Dusky. If its use is strictly for fishing then I can see why someone would buy a Contender. However, as a general utility boat, it isn't the best choice. I would prefer the 36' Yellowfin. That's my opinion, and i'm entitled to it.

It is the 2796 LOA is right at 29', it is a very heavy boat and holds its own in any seas. I have been out on the Contenders and had to go to allignment of the spine after the was over. I believe the hype is the speed, Contenders are fast boats, and for that application they are nice, just hope it don't get rough. I like the fact the HS holds alot of fuel and the console is nothing but the best out there. The way they set them up, Awsome. Mine is a 2003 and Have had the best of luck with it. It drifts streight and is pritty stable even with the deep V. I weighed my at the truck stop with fuel and some gear and was amazed with half tank of water and full fuel its a barge at 9,982 pounds.
My only kicker is the 225 four strokes. Takes a little to plain but once up it going. It could use 250's. I saw one with 2-250 Etecs the other day. It looked Mad. I just had the front spray guard and enclosure redone and its nice very low profile front with trataglass enclosure.

Relentless33 · 12-07-2006, 10:45 AM

Here's a few pics of the 3300 CC's hull. It's a deep V on the bow equalizing into being rounded at the stern. Drifting, she's sexy

She goes up, goes down, hardly any "rocking and rolling". During the tourney, we had a freighter try to say hi about 150-200 yards away. We enjoyed his 10 foot wake, especially me who had a 103 temp. and a head under a hammer.

Here's for my retarded explanations:

Relentless33 · 12-07-2006, 10:48 AM

Vector Series

All Vector Series boats are only built to the highest Quality standards. The boats have a true Deep V design that is well known for its dry and smooth ride in all sea conditions. Vectors range in size from 24-33' in Center Consoles, 28' in a Walk-Around, and 25' and 33' in the new express design. In 2004 the VX design was introduced, it's a new express design from Hydra-Sports. It gives boaters more seating room without sacrificing fishing space. The 3300VX came out in 2004 and quickly became a favorite of both fishermen and pleasure boaters. New for 2005 is the 2500VX and people are in love with its new innovative design. There is a ton of cockpit space with enough seating for several people to sit comfortable and talk. All Vectors come with a 10/3 warranty, 10 years on the hull (non-prorated) and 3 years on many of the instruments (non-prorated). Come down and see the Hydra-Sport Vector's, the boats that sent its competitors back to their drawing boards.

Fishalways · 12-07-2006, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless33

Vector Series

All Vector Series boats are only built to the highest Quality standards. The boats have a true Deep V design that is well known for its dry and smooth ride in all sea conditions. Vectors range in size from 24-33' in Center Consoles, 28' in a Walk-Around, and 25' and 33' in the new express design. In 2004 the VX design was introduced, it's a new express design from Hydra-Sports. It gives boaters more seating room without sacrificing fishing space. The 3300VX came out in 2004 and quickly became a favorite of both fishermen and pleasure boaters. New for 2005 is the 2500VX and people are in love with its new innovative design. There is a ton of cockpit space with enough seating for several people to sit comfortable and talk. All Vectors come with a 10/3 warranty, 10 years on the hull (non-prorated) and 3 years on many of the instruments (non-prorated). Come down and see the Hydra-Sport Vector's, the boats that sent its competitors back to their drawing boards.

So how much of a comission do you get from each sale?

Nice looking boat though. Do you have a shot of the stern?
I'd like to see the rounded end.

The BEAST · 12-07-2006, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by billspilingup

So what is everyone's favorite boat to sword from? Not necessarily the fastest or slickest looking boat, but the one that drifts the best without all that rocking and rolling.

When it comes to center consoles it is HANDS DOWN the 330TE WorldCat

for a stable platform with a beam to sea drift. NO ROCK... NO ROLL! 4' seas and look Ma... no hands! It's almost like standing on the dock.

Capt. Jim
The BEAST

Liquid Swords · 12-07-2006, 01:52 PM

Flyin By, I have the same exact setup, same engines and all. I have noticed that it usually takes more effort to get the boat planing. I think the 250's is the way to go with our boat. I usually lower the trim-tabs to get on plane quicker. But when i'm full of fuel, you can tell that the engines struggle.
Jr., those pics are from plantation boat mart huh? I thought it looked familiar. I have a friend that works there, and he told me that Genmar is planning on making a Vector closer to the 40' mark. Holy Chit man! The Kevlar crew is in effect!

Relentless33 · 12-07-2006, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Fishalways

So how much of a comission do you get from each sale?

Nice looking boat though. Do you have a shot of the stern?
I'd like to see the rounded end.

I don't get paid anything although I should, just because I know more than the salesmen. But I know practically no one that looks at Hydra-Sports because they saw my posts about them is going to say, I want that, or let me know that they are going to Plantation Boat Mart and speaking with Carl. Therefore, it would have no effect either way.

I'm working on a shot of the stern, I dug up a better pic of the hull though. Proves why she's so dry, and stable

Here's another one I just found:

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Originally Posted by The BEAST

4' seas and look Ma... no hands!

I did that with my Grandmother when we had her out

That was a look to remember

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Originally Posted by Liquid Swords

Jr., those pics are from plantation boat mart huh? I thought it looked familiar. I have a friend that works there, and he told me that Genmar is planning on making a Vector closer to the 40' mark. Holy Chit man! The Kevlar crew is in effect!

The top two are from Plantation and the bottom one with the Predator Green hull is from South Carolina. We heard news about the 40 footer a while back and asked about a few days ago. They said they had no more news about it and haven't heard anything. Bro, the 40 footer is going be a wicked sick nasty ride.

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Originally Posted by Disco Lady

THE NEW MISS BRITT CONO!!!!!!!! 42 TORRES ,THATS WHAT I WOULD BUY IF I HAD THE MONEY...... AWESOME RIG.

CONTENDER,

NOT FOR ME I LOVE MY BACK.......

Jr..... I LIKE THAT BOAT.

Come on DL, you gotta set goals in life, trick is set em young not when you're worried about your back because of a Contender. Well, you should never worry about your back on a Contender because you shouldn't have one in the first place

Disco Lady · 12-07-2006, 02:18 PM

THE NEW MISS BRITT CONO!!!!!!!! 42 TORRES ,THATS WHAT I WOULD BUY IF I HAD THE MONEY...... AWESOM RIG.

CONTENDER,

NOT FOR ME I LOVE MY BACK.......

Jr..... I LIKE THAT BOAT.

Warrior · 12-07-2006, 02:48 PM

60 Ocean SS... 33kt cruise thru anything.

Liquid Swords · 12-07-2006, 03:07 PM

Look at the bow of that 33' Hydra. That's the reason why I love these boats. The "flare" will break the wave and deflect it 40' to each side. The boats that don't have this feature, like the contender (same hull as a Concept boat), will make you feel like you are riding on Popeye's Wet River Ride in that Orlando theme park. Another thing I like is that I can actually rest my thighs against the sides of the boat without worrying that i'm going to fall over. I've been on some boats that the sides are below my knees. One little slip, and you're in the drink. A friend of mine was complaining to me that it was difficult for him to rinse his hands in the ocean on my boat. He would lean over, and couldn't touch the water. He spent a good five minutes trying to time the waves to rinse his hands. He tells me, "Man, my boat is awesome because it is easy for me to rinse my hands in the water." If being able to rinse your hands in the water makes a boat good, then I don't want a good boat.

Nick C · 12-07-2006, 03:12 PM

My 2550 Bluewater any day!
That 33 palmetto and 29 Everglades are pretty sick too!
Haven't fished a Hydra yet, but they look like they have a good dry ride.

31 Contender has a pretty sick ride in a short chop.

Relentless33 · 12-07-2006, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Liquid Swords

Look at the bow of that 33' Hydra. That's the reason why I love these boats. The "flare" will break the wave and deflect it 40' to each side. The boats that don't have this feature, like the contender (same hull as a Concept boat), will make you feel like you are riding on Popeye's Wet River Ride in that Orlando theme park. Another thing I like is that I can actually rest my thighs against the sides of the boat without worrying that i'm going to fall over. I've been on some boats that the sides are below my knees. One little slip, and you're in the drink. A friend of mine was complaining to me that it was difficult for him to rinse his hands in the ocean on my boat. He would lean over, and couldn't touch the water. He spent a good five minutes trying to time the waves to rinse his hands. He tells me, "Man, my boat is awesome because it is easy for me to rinse my hands in the water." If being able to rinse your hands in the water makes a boat good, then I don't want a good boat.

I'm about 6 inches from the water when I through my feet in the air to the point where my Dad jumps towards me and grabs them because he thinks I'm faling over

I was refering to the old boat of course

I sworded once in a 31' Contender and we took water over the bow in a 2-3' FOLLOWING SEA

Liquid Swords · 12-07-2006, 03:22 PM

It happens to me all the time, until I remember that the boat has both a fresh and raw water wash down.

Flyin By · 12-07-2006, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquid Swords

Look at the bow of that 33' Hydra. That's the reason why I love these boats. The "flare" will break the wave and deflect it 40' to each side. The boats that don't have this feature, like the contender (same hull as a Concept boat), will make you feel like you are riding on Popeye's Wet River Ride in that Orlando theme park. Another thing I like is that I can actually rest my thighs against the sides of the boat without worrying that i'm going to fall over. I've been on some boats that the sides are below my knees. One little slip, and you're in the drink. A friend of mine was complaining to me that it was difficult for him to rinse his hands in the ocean on my boat. He would lean over, and couldn't touch the water. He spent a good five minutes trying to time the waves to rinse his hands. He tells me, "Man, my boat is awesome because it is easy for me to rinse my hands in the water." If being able to rinse your hands in the water makes a boat good, then I don't want a good boat.

I have the same problem, I also have the wash down pump which I just replaced. But, I keep a bucket of water on deck just for that reason, quicker and I dump it when nasty. As you all can see I have 3 kids two of which are under 5 so the High gunnels are the way to go. I have to get a picture of the spray guard I had done its cool. no window up front because its so low profile.

billspilingup · 12-07-2006, 04:38 PM

I saw pics of the new Miss Britt, what a great boat design.

A couple of times during pretty much every swordfight with the engines off, the fish has taken off around the stern forcing some quick maneuvering to keep from breaking it off on the engines and hull. How do you guys cope with that while fishing from a CC with a molded engine bracket and a couple feet of livewells, etc in the transom? Similarly, how do you cope with a fish straight under the bow and making a quick move from one side to the other in a boat with forward seating? My father had the pleasure of fighting a swordfish from a 32' Reg and to clear the bow he had to climb over forward seating and to clear the stern he had to lean on the engines. It soured him on the idea of big transoms and seats in the bow.

I like the Ocean Master for fishability. It drifts incredibly stable, has a notched transom, and low freeboard in the stern making it easy to haul swords over the side.

12-07-2006, 09:06 AM	#45 (permalink)
quack quack Old Salt Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: lake worth Best Catch: 25lb codfish 5 yrs old first hanger Posts: 5,030	After the Everglades I like Headfirst's 33 Palmetto. __________________ Either we can be a part of the solution or we can be the victims of a decision.

12-07-2006, 10:48 AM	#48 (permalink)
Relentless33 Grander Join Date: Apr 2006 Best Catch: 81" sword Posts: 3,017	Vector Series All Vector Series boats are only built to the highest Quality standards. The boats have a true Deep V design that is well known for its dry and smooth ride in all sea conditions. Vectors range in size from 24-33' in Center Consoles, 28' in a Walk-Around, and 25' and 33' in the new express design. In 2004 the VX design was introduced, it's a new express design from Hydra-Sports. It gives boaters more seating room without sacrificing fishing space. The 3300VX came out in 2004 and quickly became a favorite of both fishermen and pleasure boaters. New for 2005 is the 2500VX and people are in love with its new innovative design. There is a ton of cockpit space with enough seating for several people to sit comfortable and talk. All Vectors come with a 10/3 warranty, 10 years on the hull (non-prorated) and 3 years on many of the instruments (non-prorated). Come down and see the Hydra-Sport Vector's, the boats that sent its competitors back to their drawing boards. __________________ Last edited by Relentless33; 12-07-2006 at 10:59 AM..

12-07-2006, 02:18 PM	#53 (permalink)
Disco Lady Grander Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Miami. FL, Boat: 37 Merritt Best Catch: (Blue Marlin)550 Lbs ST. Thomas Occupation: Charter Captain Sometimes... Posts: 3,530	THE NEW MISS BRITT CONO!!!!!!!! 42 TORRES ,THATS WHAT I WOULD BUY IF I HAD THE MONEY...... AWESOM RIG. CONTENDER, NOT FOR ME I LOVE MY BACK....... Jr..... I LIKE THAT BOAT. Last edited by Disco Lady; 12-07-2006 at 02:21 PM..

12-07-2006, 03:12 PM	#56 (permalink)
Nick C Grander Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 900-1600' of water Boat: 25' Bluewater(Rough C's) Best Catch: est. 120lb Tarpon on 16lb tippet(fight time was 12 min) Occupation: Squid rigger Posts: 2,229	My 2550 Bluewater any day! That 33 palmetto and 29 Everglades are pretty sick too! Haven't fished a Hydra yet, but they look like they have a good dry ride. 31 Contender has a pretty sick ride in a short chop. __________________ "Put your buoys out... we're comin' in HOT!"

12-06-2006, 03:52 PM	#42 (permalink)
Reef-i Lines In Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boca / Miami Boat: Swordfishing, Sailfishing, Catching Goggle-Eyes and Throwing the net on Pilchards Occupation: Commercial Real Estate Developer Posts: 21	i own a 36 contender -- and while it's a nice boat - it snaps and rolls alot while swordfishing. i've been swording on many other, better platforms.

12-06-2006, 04:02 PM	#43 (permalink)
Liquid Swords Lines In Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tavernier Posts: 54	Hey Flyin By, that's the same boat I have. Jr.'s right, that is the 2796 Vector. The 33' Hydra is the sickest ride out there. I participated in a tournament years ago that started with a "bimini start". For those that don't know, a bimini start is when all the boats leave at the same time. It was blowing a good 20 knots that day, and the testosterone levels were at their highest. When the commitee boat sounded the horn, everyone floored the throttles. Little by little, boats started pulling back on the throttles as we got closer to the drop-off except a 33' Hydra. That guy demoralized everyone racing out there. It was the most impressive thing I have ever seen. I've been in plenty of Contenders, and I (OPINION) don't see the big deal about them. I think the boat is over-rated; too expensive for what you are getting in return. It is very plane jane. The finish is similar to a Dusky. If its use is strictly for fishing then I can see why someone would buy a Contender. However, as a general utility boat, it isn't the best choice. I would prefer the 36' Yellowfin. That's my opinion, and i'm entitled to it.

12-07-2006, 08:56 AM	#44 (permalink)
billspilingup Hooked Up Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lighthouse Point Boat: 31' Ocean Master Best Catch: 300lb & 200lb back to back daytimers Posts: 510	So what is everyone's favorite boat to sword from? Not necessarily the fastest or slickest looking boat, but the one that drifts the best without all that rocking and rolling.

12-07-2006, 01:52 PM	#51 (permalink)
Liquid Swords Lines In Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tavernier Posts: 54	Flyin By, I have the same exact setup, same engines and all. I have noticed that it usually takes more effort to get the boat planing. I think the 250's is the way to go with our boat. I usually lower the trim-tabs to get on plane quicker. But when i'm full of fuel, you can tell that the engines struggle. Jr., those pics are from plantation boat mart huh? I thought it looked familiar. I have a friend that works there, and he told me that Genmar is planning on making a Vector closer to the 40' mark. Holy Chit man! The Kevlar crew is in effect!

12-07-2006, 02:48 PM	#54 (permalink)
Warrior Hooked Up Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ft.Pierce Boat: 60 Ocean SS/31 Contender Best Catch: 369# core Giant Bluefin Posts: 308	60 Ocean SS... 33kt cruise thru anything.

12-07-2006, 03:07 PM	#55 (permalink)
Liquid Swords Lines In Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tavernier Posts: 54	Look at the bow of that 33' Hydra. That's the reason why I love these boats. The "flare" will break the wave and deflect it 40' to each side. The boats that don't have this feature, like the contender (same hull as a Concept boat), will make you feel like you are riding on Popeye's Wet River Ride in that Orlando theme park. Another thing I like is that I can actually rest my thighs against the sides of the boat without worrying that i'm going to fall over. I've been on some boats that the sides are below my knees. One little slip, and you're in the drink. A friend of mine was complaining to me that it was difficult for him to rinse his hands in the ocean on my boat. He would lean over, and couldn't touch the water. He spent a good five minutes trying to time the waves to rinse his hands. He tells me, "Man, my boat is awesome because it is easy for me to rinse my hands in the water." If being able to rinse your hands in the water makes a boat good, then I don't want a good boat.

12-07-2006, 03:22 PM	#58 (permalink)
Liquid Swords Lines In Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tavernier Posts: 54	It happens to me all the time, until I remember that the boat has both a fresh and raw water wash down.

12-07-2006, 04:38 PM	#60 (permalink)
billspilingup Hooked Up Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lighthouse Point Boat: 31' Ocean Master Best Catch: 300lb & 200lb back to back daytimers Posts: 510	I saw pics of the new Miss Britt, what a great boat design. A couple of times during pretty much every swordfight with the engines off, the fish has taken off around the stern forcing some quick maneuvering to keep from breaking it off on the engines and hull. How do you guys cope with that while fishing from a CC with a molded engine bracket and a couple feet of livewells, etc in the transom? Similarly, how do you cope with a fish straight under the bow and making a quick move from one side to the other in a boat with forward seating? My father had the pleasure of fighting a swordfish from a 32' Reg and to clear the bow he had to climb over forward seating and to clear the stern he had to lean on the engines. It soured him on the idea of big transoms and seats in the bow. I like the Ocean Master for fishability. It drifts incredibly stable, has a notched transom, and low freeboard in the stern making it easy to haul swords over the side.